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UNI88 wrote: Sun Jul 11, 2021 7:06 pm
AZGrizFan wrote: Sun Jul 11, 2021 6:56 pm

Desantis already does that. And CID is right, hopefully. People will wake up.
DeSantis needs 2 things: Trump not to run and Trump not to get jealous of his popularity and lash out at him.

Can Trump set aside his own ego and do what is right for the party?
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UNI88 wrote: Sun Jul 11, 2021 7:06 pm
AZGrizFan wrote: Sun Jul 11, 2021 6:56 pm

Desantis already does that. And CID is right, hopefully. People will wake up.
DeSantis needs 2 things: Trump not to run and Trump not to get jealous of his popularity and lash out at him.

Can Trump set aside his own ego and do what is right for the party?
No. Reports are that he's already pissed that Jared has a book deal and is going to take credit for things he did in the administration. Humility just isn't a trait Trump possesses.
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Ibanez wrote: Mon Jul 12, 2021 1:04 pm
UNI88 wrote: Sun Jul 11, 2021 7:06 pm

DeSantis needs 2 things: Trump not to run and Trump not to get jealous of his popularity and lash out at him.

Can Trump set aside his own ego and do what is right for the party?
No. Reports are that he's already pissed that Jared has a book deal and is going to take credit for things he did in the administration. Humility just isn't a trait Trump possesses.
Well then we can hope for him to die. :coffee:
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CID1990 wrote: Mon Jul 12, 2021 5:36 am No, I don’t. I was using her as a benchmark in that thread.

For each day that passes she further tanks her chances at the nomination because her lack of competence becomes obvious to anyone who might not have been previously aware of it. At this point the only demographic she can carry is black females and that isn’t enough.


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You have way more faith than I do that people actually CARE what her competence level is...she has a "D" behind her name and will have four years (presumably) as VP. That's all 48% of the voting populace needs to see.
Independents and moderates aren’t extinct yet. In fact, they make up majorities if you take into account the issues that cause each party’s base to go berserk. Extreme positions on both sides turn off the moderates and the independents and they *will* cross the aisle if the other guy isn’t completely unlikeable or extreme.

I know the last few years make it hard to believe, but there is a very big middle in this country... they are sick of the drama and the BS and they will vote for sanity.

BTW the great thing is that the political middle is a direct rebuke to the extremes in each party- it is multiracial, multi-denominational, straight, gay, and basically wants to be left alone.


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CID1990 wrote: Mon Jul 12, 2021 4:34 pm
AZGrizFan wrote:
You have way more faith than I do that people actually CARE what her competence level is...she has a "D" behind her name and will have four years (presumably) as VP. That's all 48% of the voting populace needs to see.
Independents and moderates aren’t extinct yet. In fact, they make up majorities if you take into account the issues that cause each party’s base to go berserk. Extreme positions on both sides turn off the moderates and the independents and they *will* cross the aisle if the other guy isn’t completely unlikeable or extreme.

I know the last few years make it hard to believe, but there is a very big middle in this country... they are sick of the drama and the BS and they will vote for sanity.

BTW the great thing is that the political middle is a direct rebuke to the extremes in each party- it is multiracial, multi-denominational, straight, gay, and basically wants to be left alone.


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And, I'm sure as someone who went from Sarah Palin adoration to Trump, you consider yourself the "political middle."
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Skjellyfetti wrote: Mon Jul 12, 2021 6:40 pm And, I'm sure as someone who went from Sarah Palin adoration to Trump, you consider yourself the "political middle."
Why not? JSO self-identifies as a conservative and Houndie says he's a republican.
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Of course to get nominated you have to appeal to the most partisan elements of your party. The GOP is worse in that regard but Democrats replace that with fickle single-issue voters and woke idpol purists.

And meanwhile, a state Trump won twice passed $15 minimum wage by 20 points and deep-blue woke California voted down Prop 15 by double digits as big-money interests try to pull both parties to the right economically and leftward culturally.

Add these together and you get politics where we vote to defeat the other guy than elect our guy. Muricafuckyeah.
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Pwns wrote: Mon Jul 12, 2021 7:43 pm Of course to get nominated you have to appeal to the most partisan elements of your party. The GOP is worse in that regard but Democrats replace that with fickle single-issue voters and woke idpol purists.

And meanwhile, a state Trump won twice passed $15 minimum wage by 20 points and deep-blue woke California voted down Prop 15 by double digits as big-money interests try to pull both parties to the right economically and leftward culturally.

Add these together and you get politics where we vote to defeat the other guy than elect our guy. Muricafuckyeah.
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UNI88 wrote: Mon Jul 12, 2021 6:54 pm
Skjellyfetti wrote: Mon Jul 12, 2021 6:40 pm And, I'm sure as someone who went from Sarah Palin adoration to Trump, you consider yourself the "political middle."
Why not? JSO self-identifies as a conservative and Houndie says he's a republican.
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Ibanez wrote: Mon Jul 12, 2021 1:04 pm
UNI88 wrote: Sun Jul 11, 2021 7:06 pm

DeSantis needs 2 things: Trump not to run and Trump not to get jealous of his popularity and lash out at him.

Can Trump set aside his own ego and do what is right for the party?
No. Reports are that he's already pissed that Jared has a book deal and is going to take credit for things he did in the administration. Humility just isn't a trait Trump possesses.
Maybe he's disappointed that Jared's father met with Nikki Haley and believes she will be the first woman President.
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Ivytalk wrote: Tue Jul 13, 2021 4:26 am
UNI88 wrote: Mon Jul 12, 2021 6:54 pm

Why not? JSO self-identifies as a conservative and Houndie says he's a republican.
Bullshyt on both counts. :coffee:
At least I’m still post partisan.

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kalm wrote: Wed Jul 14, 2021 8:16 am
Ivytalk wrote: Tue Jul 13, 2021 4:26 am

Bullshyt on both counts. :coffee:
At least I’m still post partisan.

:coffee:

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UNI88 wrote: Wed Jul 14, 2021 8:31 am
kalm wrote: Wed Jul 14, 2021 8:16 am

At least I’m still post partisan.

:coffee:

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kalm wrote: Thu Jul 15, 2021 5:07 am
UNI88 wrote: Wed Jul 14, 2021 8:31 am

You'll be post-partisan during the peaceful couple of days after the pseudo-progressives throw all conservatives into re-education camps. Then the pseudo-progressives will start fighting amongst themselves and you'll be forced to flee to Mexico like Trotsky. ;)
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UNI88 wrote: Thu Jul 15, 2021 7:03 am
Trotsky was assassinated. You should ask yourself - who is the future Stalin on CS? :D :D
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UNI88 wrote: Mon Jul 12, 2021 6:54 pm
Skjellyfetti wrote: Mon Jul 12, 2021 6:40 pm And, I'm sure as someone who went from Sarah Palin adoration to Trump, you consider yourself the "political middle."
Why not? JSO self-identifies as a conservative and Houndie says he's a republican.
I didn't say I was a Republican, just that I was more conservative than the "Republicans" here. :coffee:

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CID1990 wrote: Mon Jul 12, 2021 4:34 pm
AZGrizFan wrote:
You have way more faith than I do that people actually CARE what her competence level is...she has a "D" behind her name and will have four years (presumably) as VP. That's all 48% of the voting populace needs to see.
Independents and moderates aren’t extinct yet. In fact, they make up majorities if you take into account the issues that cause each party’s base to go berserk. Extreme positions on both sides turn off the moderates and the independents and they *will* cross the aisle if the other guy isn’t completely unlikeable or extreme.

I know the last few years make it hard to believe, but there is a very big middle in this country... they are sick of the drama and the BS and they will vote for sanity.

BTW the great thing is that the political middle is a direct rebuke to the extremes in each party- it is multiracial, multi-denominational, straight, gay, and basically wants to be left alone.


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CID1990 wrote: Mon Jul 12, 2021 4:34 pm Independents and moderates aren’t extinct yet. In fact, they make up majorities if you take into account the issues that cause each party’s base to go berserk. Extreme positions on both sides turn off the moderates and the independents and they *will* cross the aisle if the other guy isn’t completely unlikeable or extreme.

I know the last few years make it hard to believe, but there is a very big middle in this country... they are sick of the drama and the BS and they will vote for sanity.

BTW the great thing is that the political middle is a direct rebuke to the extremes in each party- it is multiracial, multi-denominational, straight, gay, and basically wants to be left alone.


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The ones in the Republican Party are running scared and and aren't thinking about anything except what happened to Liz Cheney when she crossed Lardass.
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AZGrizFan wrote: Thu Jul 15, 2021 10:19 am
UNI88 wrote: Thu Jul 15, 2021 7:03 am
Trotsky was assassinated. You should ask yourself - who is the future Stalin on CS? :D :D
JSO. :ohno: :ohno: :ohno:
JSO has proven he isn’t the strong man type. Not sure about the rest of you conks on here...

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CID1990 wrote: Mon Jul 12, 2021 4:34 pm
AZGrizFan wrote:
You have way more faith than I do that people actually CARE what her competence level is...she has a "D" behind her name and will have four years (presumably) as VP. That's all 48% of the voting populace needs to see.
BTW the great thing is that the political middle is a direct rebuke to the extremes in each party- it is multiracial, multi-denominational, straight, gay, and basically wants to be left alone.


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kalm wrote: Mon Jul 19, 2021 4:10 am
AZGrizFan wrote: Thu Jul 15, 2021 10:19 am

JSO. :ohno: :ohno: :ohno:
JSO has proven he isn’t the strong man type. Not sure about the rest of you conks on here...

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But he has advocated for the elimination of Trump supporters so there's that.....
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kalm wrote: Mon Jul 19, 2021 4:10 am
AZGrizFan wrote: Thu Jul 15, 2021 10:19 am
JSO. :ohno: :ohno: :ohno:
JSO has proven he isn’t the strong man type. Not sure about the rest of you conks on here...

:coffee:
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kalm wrote: Mon Jul 19, 2021 4:10 am
AZGrizFan wrote: Thu Jul 15, 2021 10:19 am

JSO. :ohno: :ohno: :ohno:
JSO has proven he isn’t the strong man type. Not sure about the rest of you conks on here...

:coffee:
JSO is on record as saying anyone who voted for or supports Trump should be eliminated. Eradicated. Removed.

That sounds pretty “Stalin-esque” to me.
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