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UNI88 wrote: Sat Nov 04, 2023 11:50 am
kalm wrote:
In all seriousness there is obviously significant Jewish power in media which has to skew the reporting a bit. Not all of it as there are Jews opposed to how Israel is handling it too.

But combine that power with defense contractors and it’s no wonder…the Biden administrations stance.
Power / influence doesn’t equal “in the pocket”.

The people who think the Palestinians are just defending themselves are just as deluded as the people who think Israel is just defending itself.
Then who is calling the shots
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dal4018 wrote: Sun Nov 05, 2023 1:12 am
UNI88 wrote: Sat Nov 04, 2023 11:50 am

Power / influence doesn’t equal “in the pocket”.

The people who think the Palestinians are just defending themselves are just as deluded as the people who think Israel is just defending itself.
Then who is calling the shots
Who is making money off of the situation?


Arms dealers.
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dal4018 wrote: Sun Nov 05, 2023 1:11 am
kalm wrote: Sat Nov 04, 2023 11:34 am

In all seriousness there is obviously significant Jewish power in media which has to skew the reporting a bit. Not all of it as there are Jews opposed to how Israel is handling it too.

But combine that power with defense contractors and it’s no wonder…the Biden administrations stance.
Harold Rosenthal talked about how the Jews control the media.
And it’s ok if true. Biased relieving is the issue. Regardless of ownership or religion. There are plenty of Jews in the media who you’d agree with.
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So Jews make up about 2.4% of the US population but are the targets of about 60% of the hate crimes.Muslims are only a tiny fraction of that.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/other/je ... r-AA1jcTjQ
Antisemitism is on thw rise all over the US. In response the Biden admin this past Wed unvieled a new national strategy to combat…Islamaphobia. :suspicious: :dunce:

Meanwhile the Biden admin and the donks are talking out both sides of their mouths, saying on the one hand Israel has a right to defend themselves, then turning around and calling for constraint amd a ‘pause’ and a ceasefire.. :suspicious: Would be like calling for a pause or ceasefire after Pearl Harbor or 9/11. :roll:
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BDKJMU wrote: Sun Nov 05, 2023 9:16 pm So Jews make up about 2.4% of the US population but are the targets of about 60% of the hate crimes.Muslims are only a tiny fraction of that.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/other/je ... r-AA1jcTjQ
Antisemitism is on thw rise all over the US. In response the Biden admin this past Wed unvieled a new national strategy to combat…Islamaphobia. :suspicious: :dunce:

Meanwhile the Biden admin and the donks are talking out both sides of their mouths, saying on the one hand Israel has a right to defend themselves, then turning around and calling for constraint amd a ‘pause’ and a ceasefire.. :suspicious: Would be like calling for a pause or ceasefire after Pearl Harbor or 9/11. :roll:
Biden admins in a pickle. Jews make up almost 50% of Dem money, but they are only 2.4% of the population like you say. A lot of votes for Biden are pro Palestinian.

Make the donors mad or do you make the voters mad?
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BDKJMU wrote: Sun Nov 05, 2023 9:16 pm So Jews make up about 2.4% of the US population but are the targets of about 60% of the hate crimes.Muslims are only a tiny fraction of that.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/other/je ... r-AA1jcTjQ
Antisemitism is on thw rise all over the US. In response the Biden admin this past Wed unvieled a new national strategy to combat…Islamaphobia. :suspicious: :dunce:

Meanwhile the Biden admin and the donks are talking out both sides of their mouths, saying on the one hand Israel has a right to defend themselves, then turning around and calling for constraint amd a ‘pause’ and a ceasefire.. :suspicious: Would be like calling for a pause or ceasefire after Pearl Harbor or 9/11. :roll:
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houndawg wrote: Sun Nov 05, 2023 3:35 am
dal4018 wrote: Sun Nov 05, 2023 1:12 am
Then who is calling the shots
Who is making money off of the situation?


Arms dealers.
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Caribbean Hen wrote: Mon Nov 06, 2023 6:17 am
houndawg wrote: Sun Nov 05, 2023 3:35 am

Who is making money off of the situation?


Arms dealers.
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....because he keeps his overhead low - by living rent-free in your head. :lol:

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houndawg wrote: Mon Nov 06, 2023 7:38 am
Caribbean Hen wrote: Mon Nov 06, 2023 6:17 am

Joblow Biden
....because he keeps his overhead low - by living rent-free in your head. :lol:

lots of space available
Keep supporting this idiot if he really turns you on that much

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Caribbean Hen wrote: Mon Nov 06, 2023 8:16 am
houndawg wrote: Mon Nov 06, 2023 7:38 am
....because he keeps his overhead low - by living rent-free in your head. :lol:

lots of space available
Keep supporting this idiot if he really turns you on that much

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UNI88 wrote: Mon Nov 06, 2023 8:47 am
Caribbean Hen wrote: Mon Nov 06, 2023 8:16 am

Keep supporting this idiot if he really turns you on that much

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FYP. Biden passed the biggest loser ever title on to his opponent when he won the 2020 election.
Leave him alone. He’s a victim of a stolen ejection and unfair prosecution.

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kalm wrote: Sun Nov 05, 2023 6:09 am
dal4018 wrote: Sun Nov 05, 2023 1:11 am
Harold Rosenthal talked about how the Jews control the media.
And it’s ok if true. Biased relieving is the issue. Regardless of ownership or religion. There are plenty of Jews in the media who you’d agree with.
He knows better than anyone he was a obvious beneficiary of this.
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houndawg wrote: Sun Nov 05, 2023 3:35 am
dal4018 wrote: Sun Nov 05, 2023 1:12 am
Then who is calling the shots
Who is making money off of the situation?


Arms dealers.
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dal4018 wrote: Sun Nov 05, 2023 1:12 am
UNI88 wrote: Sat Nov 04, 2023 11:50 am
Power / influence doesn’t equal “in the pocket”.

The people who think the Palestinians are just defending themselves are just as deluded as the people who think Israel is just defending itself.
Then who is calling the shots
IMO there is no boogeyman calling the shots. There are entities that influence both sides. Iran pulls Hamas' strings. Israel will listen to the US and powerful people/entities but they're going to do their own thing and they can be ruthless.

As Obama said, it's complicated. trump's simplification helped lead to the Abraham Accords which were/are promising but scared Iran into pushing Hamas into actions that would derail them.
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UNI88 wrote: Mon Nov 06, 2023 8:47 am
Caribbean Hen wrote: Mon Nov 06, 2023 8:16 am

Keep supporting this idiot if he really turns you on that much

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And we’re all losing now

Biden is letting it all fall apart
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Caribbean Hen wrote: Mon Nov 06, 2023 1:09 pm
UNI88 wrote: Mon Nov 06, 2023 8:47 am
FYP. Biden passed the biggest loser ever title on to his opponent when he won the 2020 election.
And we’re all losing now

Biden is letting it all fall apart
Calm down Chicken Little. It's not all falling apart now just like it wasn't all falling apart under trump despite illiberal protestations to the contrary.

We're going through a low period in nationally leadership and that includes the Freedom Caucus in the House of Representatives.
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Caribbean Hen wrote: Mon Nov 06, 2023 1:09 pm
UNI88 wrote: Mon Nov 06, 2023 8:47 am
FYP. Biden passed the biggest loser ever title on to his opponent when he won the 2020 election.
And we’re all losing now

Biden is letting it all fall apart
Calm down Chicken Little. It's not all falling apart now just like it wasn't all falling apart under trump despite illiberal protestations to the contrary.

We're going through a low period in nationally leadership and that includes the various bozos in the House of Representatives.
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UNI88 wrote: Mon Nov 06, 2023 1:19 pm
Caribbean Hen wrote: Mon Nov 06, 2023 1:09 pm

And we’re all losing now

Biden is letting it all fall apart
Calm down Chicken Little. It's not all falling apart now just like it wasn't all falling apart under trump despite illiberal protestations to the contrary.

We're going through a low period in nationally leadership and that includes the Freedom Caucus in the House of Representatives.
It’s also local. At least in these parts.
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I think real life interceded on my trip to Frankfurt. I met an Israeli football commentator, from Haifa, Israel, covering the game on his first trip outside the country since the Oct. 7 Hamas attack on the country. “I cry every day,” said Ori Shterenbach, who is also involved in the organization of football on all levels in Israel and is the commissioner of the eight-team high school football league in the country. He told me three players and one coach on the national football team were killed in the attack. “Two of the players were at the [concert] that was attacked,” Shterenbach said. “They ran for shelter into a building, but the attackers threw grenades and killed some people, then went into the building and shot the others. One player played dead for 10 hours. That’s how he survived and told the story.” Shterenbach got emotional talking about it. “We need football at a time like this,” he said. “We love sports, and people need to get their minds off what’s happening in our world for a while right now.”
People who attack a concert with innocent civilians in attendance, throw grenades into a building where concert goers are sheltering/hiding and then go into the building and shoot survivors are NOT victims who are just "defending" themselves.
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UNI88 wrote: Mon Nov 06, 2023 2:11 pm FMIA Week 9: Football Morning in Germany with Mahomes and the Chiefs
I think real life interceded on my trip to Frankfurt. I met an Israeli football commentator, from Haifa, Israel, covering the game on his first trip outside the country since the Oct. 7 Hamas attack on the country. “I cry every day,” said Ori Shterenbach, who is also involved in the organization of football on all levels in Israel and is the commissioner of the eight-team high school football league in the country. He told me three players and one coach on the national football team were killed in the attack. “Two of the players were at the [concert] that was attacked,” Shterenbach said. “They ran for shelter into a building, but the attackers threw grenades and killed some people, then went into the building and shot the others. One player played dead for 10 hours. That’s how he survived and told the story.” Shterenbach got emotional talking about it. “We need football at a time like this,” he said. “We love sports, and people need to get their minds off what’s happening in our world for a while right now.”
People who attack a concert with innocent civilians in attendance, throw grenades into a building where concert goers are sheltering/hiding and then go into the building and shoot survivors are victims who are just "defending" themselves.
Very true. It’s remains the leadership on both sides. These stories have been and will continue to be shared and traded while innocents continue to die.
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Caribbean Hen wrote: Mon Nov 06, 2023 8:16 am
houndawg wrote: Mon Nov 06, 2023 7:38 am

....because he keeps his overhead low - by living rent-free in your head. :lol:

lots of space available
Keep supporting this idiot if he really turns you on that much

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Only if trump is the opponent. :coffee:
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Caribbean Hen wrote: Mon Nov 06, 2023 8:16 am
houndawg wrote: Mon Nov 06, 2023 7:38 am

....because he keeps his overhead low - by living rent-free in your head. :lol:

lots of space available
Keep supporting this idiot if he really turns you on that much

Biggest loser ever
He's in 2nd place by 7,000,000 votes... :mrgreen:
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UNI88 wrote: Mon Nov 06, 2023 12:47 pm
dal4018 wrote: Sun Nov 05, 2023 1:12 am
Then who is calling the shots
IMO there is no boogeyman calling the shots. There are entities that influence both sides. Iran pulls Hamas' strings. Israel will listen to the US and powerful people/entities but they're going to do their own thing and they can be ruthless.

As Obama said, it's complicated. trump's simplification helped lead to the Abraham Accords which were/are promising but scared Iran into pushing Hamas into actions that would derail them.
I think Uncle Sam is calling the shots
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(Kill) “ all of them.”

Saying the quiet parts out loud?

Dems are complicit with their silence and clearly afraid of AIPAC.

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