What is Ron's obsession with spending Florida's tax revenues in Texas? First paying to fly immigrants up north. Now he is sending the national guard. That money is meant to help the citizens of Florida and no one else. How is this even legal?BDKJMU wrote: ↑Thu Feb 01, 2024 2:17 pmhttps://www.jacksonville.com/story/news ... 422043007/Gov. Ron DeSantis sends Florida National, State Guard to Texas
….. Florida National Guard and State Guard members will be sent to Texas to assist with placing razor wire along the southern border and stopping illegal immigration, Gov. Ron DeSantis announced Thursday.
Florida will send up to 1,000 of its own National Guard members and State Guard volunteers to assist Texas, as the state has done with other Florida agencies over the past two years.
“The goal is to help Texas fortify this border, help them strengthen the barricades, help them add barriers, help them add the wire that they need to so that we can stop this invasion once and for all,” DeSantis said from Jacksonville’s Cecil Airport Thursday morning. “And the states have to band together.….
The State Guard became inactive in 1947 after being established in World War II to replace deployed Florida National Guard members. Bills currently being considered by the Florida Legislature (HB 1551/SB 1694) allows DeSantis to send the guard to other states.
DeSantis revived the State Guard in 2022, and the Legislature increased funding from $10 million to $107.6 million. The force tripled from 400 to 1,500 members last year. He did not specify how many of the members would be sent to Texas.
Florida already has 90 officers from the Florida Highway Patrol, Florida Fish and Wildlife Conservation Commission and the Florida Department of Law Enforcement stationed at the border.
“It's sad that you don't have a president willing to just, you know, put his foot down and say ‘I'm not going to let this happen to my country,’” DeSantis said. “But in the absence of that leadership, in the face of the dereliction of duty, we're going to step up and do our part.”
Last May, DeSantis signed into law what his office called the "strongest anti-illegal immigration legislation in the country." Among other things, it made E-Verify mandatory for employers with 25 or more workers, banned local governments from issuing identification cards to "illegal aliens" and required hospitals to "collect and submit data on the costs of providing health care to illegal aliens." Like many of his initiatives, it too is under court challenge….
Texan Border Action
- bobbythekidd
- Supporter
- Posts: 4716
- Joined: Fri Jul 13, 2007 2:58 pm
- I am a fan of: Georgia Southern
- A.K.A.: Bob dammit!!
- Location: Savannah GA
Re: Texan Border Action
- UNI88
- Supporter
- Posts: 20353
- Joined: Mon Aug 25, 2008 8:30 am
- I am a fan of: UNI
- Location: the foggy, woggy banks Of the Limpopo River
Re: Texan Border Action
To paraphrase CH ...bobbythekidd wrote: ↑Tue Feb 06, 2024 12:15 pmWhat is Ron's obsession with spending Florida's tax revenues in Texas? First paying to fly immigrants up north. Now he is sending the national guard. That money is meant to help the citizens of Florida and no one else. How is this even legal?
Caribbean Hen wrote: ↑Fri Feb 02, 2024 6:08 am How about a little question at the end of the Florida state tax return…
Would you like the federal government to deduct $500 from your tax return to send the Florida National Guard to Texas?
Being wrong about a topic is called post partisanism - kalm
-
- Level2
- Posts: 2012
- Joined: Mon Jul 16, 2007 11:24 pm
- I am a fan of: DELAWARE
Re: Texan Border Action
But Florida doesn’t have a state tax returnUNI88 wrote: ↑Tue Feb 06, 2024 12:23 pmTo paraphrase CH ...bobbythekidd wrote: ↑Tue Feb 06, 2024 12:15 pm
What is Ron's obsession with spending Florida's tax revenues in Texas? First paying to fly immigrants up north. Now he is sending the national guard. That money is meant to help the citizens of Florida and no one else. How is this even legal?
Caribbean Hen wrote: ↑Fri Feb 02, 2024 6:08 am How about a little question at the end of the Florida state tax return…
Would you like the federal government to deduct $500 from your tax return to send the Florida National Guard to Texas?
My example was for a Federal return with the question being about the Ukraine
-
- Level5
- Posts: 23481
- Joined: Tue Oct 14, 2008 1:14 pm
- I am a fan of: SIU
- A.K.A.: houndawg
- Location: Egypt
Re: Texan Border Action
The BP's union endoeses the biparisan bill that Trump is reneging onCaribbean Hen wrote: ↑Tue Feb 06, 2024 11:26 am They should listen to the BP agents
“We hear this number, six million people have come across under the current administration. I talked to experts down there that say that number is a myth, that it’s closer to 13 to 14 million that have come across," McGraw told Sean Hannity. "I asked them straight up, what is it you need here? I was shocked to hear them say, ‘We don’t need more money. We don’t need more resources, we don’t need more officers, we don’t need more legislation. We just need the laws that are on the books to be followed. We need to be allowed to do our job. And we can get this under control right now.’"
The best way to keep people passive and obedient is to strictly limit the spectrum of opinion but allow very lively debate within that spectrum - Noam Chomsky
-
- Level2
- Posts: 2012
- Joined: Mon Jul 16, 2007 11:24 pm
- I am a fan of: DELAWARE
Re: Texan Border Action
The union? The union is not the worker bees on the groundhoundawg wrote: ↑Tue Feb 06, 2024 2:29 pmThe BP's union endoeses the biparisan bill that Trump is reneging onCaribbean Hen wrote: ↑Tue Feb 06, 2024 11:26 am They should listen to the BP agents
“We hear this number, six million people have come across under the current administration. I talked to experts down there that say that number is a myth, that it’s closer to 13 to 14 million that have come across," McGraw told Sean Hannity. "I asked them straight up, what is it you need here? I was shocked to hear them say, ‘We don’t need more money. We don’t need more resources, we don’t need more officers, we don’t need more legislation. We just need the laws that are on the books to be followed. We need to be allowed to do our job. And we can get this under control right now.’"
- UNI88
- Supporter
- Posts: 20353
- Joined: Mon Aug 25, 2008 8:30 am
- I am a fan of: UNI
- Location: the foggy, woggy banks Of the Limpopo River
Re: Texan Border Action
Caribbean Hen wrote: ↑Tue Feb 06, 2024 2:33 pmThe union? The union is not the worker bees on the ground
Being wrong about a topic is called post partisanism - kalm
-
- Supporter
- Posts: 59651
- Joined: Thu Oct 01, 2009 3:36 pm
- I am a fan of: Eastern
- A.K.A.: Humus The Proud
- Location: Northern Palouse
Re: Texan Border Action
Of course it. It’s a democracy.Caribbean Hen wrote: ↑Tue Feb 06, 2024 2:33 pmThe union? The union is not the worker bees on the ground
(Oops…I said a dirty word didn’t I?)
-
- Level2
- Posts: 2012
- Joined: Mon Jul 16, 2007 11:24 pm
- I am a fan of: DELAWARE
Re: Texan Border Action
The Border Patrol has been thoroughly abused by the Biden administration … what a shame this administration has treated them like dogskalm wrote: ↑Tue Feb 06, 2024 4:01 pmOf course it. It’s a democracy.Caribbean Hen wrote: ↑Tue Feb 06, 2024 2:33 pm
The union? The union is not the worker bees on the ground
(Oops…I said a dirty word didn’t I?)
- BDKJMU
- Level5
- Posts: 28195
- Joined: Wed Jul 01, 2009 6:59 am
- I am a fan of: JMU
- A.K.A.: BDKJMU
- Location: Philly Burbs
Re: Texan Border Action
Yeah, there is no ‘Union’ The head of the BP Council shockingly endorsed it, not the rank and file (there was no vote).Caribbean Hen wrote: ↑Tue Feb 06, 2024 2:33 pmThe union? The union is not the worker bees on the ground
Reminds me of right after the UAW leadership endorsed Biden. Yeah, we’re endorsing Biden, but the majority of our members won’t vote for hin.
..peacefully and patriotically make your voices heard..
JMU Football: 2022 & 2023 Sun Belt East Champions...But you have to go home now. We have to have peace…
..I know how you feel, but go home, and go home in peace.
Re: Texan Border Action
Biden and anyone that supports him are domestic terrorists.
They are not Americans
They are not Americans
-
- Level5
- Posts: 23481
- Joined: Tue Oct 14, 2008 1:14 pm
- I am a fan of: SIU
- A.K.A.: houndawg
- Location: Egypt
Re: Texan Border Action
Yes, the union. They speak for the worker bees on the ground, negotiate contracts, that sort of thing? They had a worker bee on NPR speaking in favor of the plan yesterday.Caribbean Hen wrote: ↑Tue Feb 06, 2024 2:33 pmThe union? The union is not the worker bees on the ground
The best way to keep people passive and obedient is to strictly limit the spectrum of opinion but allow very lively debate within that spectrum - Noam Chomsky
-
- Level5
- Posts: 23481
- Joined: Tue Oct 14, 2008 1:14 pm
- I am a fan of: SIU
- A.K.A.: houndawg
- Location: Egypt
Re: Texan Border Action
....sez the excuse for an American who is backing the traitor. Hows that Russian meat taste?
The best way to keep people passive and obedient is to strictly limit the spectrum of opinion but allow very lively debate within that spectrum - Noam Chomsky
-
- Supporter
- Posts: 59651
- Joined: Thu Oct 01, 2009 3:36 pm
- I am a fan of: Eastern
- A.K.A.: Humus The Proud
- Location: Northern Palouse
Re: Texan Border Action
That accusation comes from a deep seated traditional/ conservative/nativist ideology. Longing for an America that’s already gone. Change is universal including culture and power dynamics.
Hence making America great AGAIN. It’s more projection driven by a historical crisis period in history. They are bothered by an inevitably evolving country.
- BDKJMU
- Level5
- Posts: 28195
- Joined: Wed Jul 01, 2009 6:59 am
- I am a fan of: JMU
- A.K.A.: BDKJMU
- Location: Philly Burbs
Re: Texan Border Action
I’m sure NPR could find a UAW worker that support Biden. Doesn’t change the fact that most don’t.houndawg wrote: ↑Wed Feb 07, 2024 5:35 amYes, the union. They speak for the worker bees on the ground, negotiate contracts, that sort of thing? They had a worker bee on NPR speaking in favor of the plan yesterday.Caribbean Hen wrote: ↑Tue Feb 06, 2024 2:33 pm
The union? The union is not the worker bees on the ground
..peacefully and patriotically make your voices heard..
JMU Football: 2022 & 2023 Sun Belt East Champions...But you have to go home now. We have to have peace…
..I know how you feel, but go home, and go home in peace.
-
- Supporter
- Posts: 59651
- Joined: Thu Oct 01, 2009 3:36 pm
- I am a fan of: Eastern
- A.K.A.: Humus The Proud
- Location: Northern Palouse
Re: Texan Border Action
- BDKJMU
- Level5
- Posts: 28195
- Joined: Wed Jul 01, 2009 6:59 am
- I am a fan of: JMU
- A.K.A.: BDKJMU
- Location: Philly Burbs
Re: Texan Border Action
The UAW president who hates Trump, called him a ‘scab’ stated the majority of their members won’t vote for Biden. Is he wrong?
viewtopic.php?p=1442532#p1442532
..peacefully and patriotically make your voices heard..
JMU Football: 2022 & 2023 Sun Belt East Champions...But you have to go home now. We have to have peace…
..I know how you feel, but go home, and go home in peace.
-
- Level2
- Posts: 2012
- Joined: Mon Jul 16, 2007 11:24 pm
- I am a fan of: DELAWARE
Re: Texan Border Action
Rightkalm wrote: ↑Wed Feb 07, 2024 6:26 amThat accusation comes from a deep seated traditional/ conservative/nativist ideology. Longing for an America that’s already gone. Change is universal including culture and power dynamics.
Hence making America great AGAIN. It’s more projection driven by a historical crisis period in history. They are bothered by an inevitably evolving country.
A Banana Republic is what the U.S. has evolved to
You’re right, it’s not going back to glory days when you have
Dems were for the working man and not the self appointed elites
Criminals were prosecuted and not enabled… see NYC
The justice system was trusted and not politically divided - See NYC, Philly, LA and every big blue urban cesspool
Elections were trusted - what we have is Banana 101
Education wasn’t indoctrination - our test scores are horrible today compared to 70 years ago. Lots of brilliant people helped with WW2, not sure we win that today
College was more for gifted people and not for those that have no business enrolled - yes, your degree is worthless and Obama was dead wrong touting everyone should go to college
People were more financially responsible, and not following our irresponsible government fiscal policies
The Fourth Estate is not the right arm of the Republic
Minorities start challenging the post civil rights urban plantations where the deceiving Dems harvest votes for power and control, basically telling us Blacks and Latinos we’re not good enough to make it on our own…
I’m telling you the USA is on a fast track to what Puerto Rico is, only without Puerto Rico’s beautiful playas, breezy tradewinds and the tranquility of a turquoise sea and without that, it’s no place to be. The Isla is a failed socialist trail of tears where 45% of the population is on some type of welfare
-
- Supporter
- Posts: 59651
- Joined: Thu Oct 01, 2009 3:36 pm
- I am a fan of: Eastern
- A.K.A.: Humus The Proud
- Location: Northern Palouse
Re: Texan Border Action
Interesting as that clip contradicts what Fain said recently.BDKJMU wrote: ↑Wed Feb 07, 2024 7:10 amThe UAW president who hates Trump, called him a ‘scab’ stated the majority of their members won’t vote for Biden. Is he wrong?
viewtopic.php?p=1442532#p1442532
https://thehill.com/policy/transportati ... pitch/amp/
- BDKJMU
- Level5
- Posts: 28195
- Joined: Wed Jul 01, 2009 6:59 am
- I am a fan of: JMU
- A.K.A.: BDKJMU
- Location: Philly Burbs
Re: Texan Border Action
I don’t see anything in that article where Fain said a majority of UAW members will vote for Biden, or a majority won’t vote for Trump.kalm wrote: ↑Wed Feb 07, 2024 7:24 amInteresting as that clip contradicts what Fain said recently.BDKJMU wrote: ↑Wed Feb 07, 2024 7:10 am
The UAW president who hates Trump, called him a ‘scab’ stated the majority of their members won’t vote for Biden. Is he wrong?
viewtopic.php?p=1442532#p1442532
https://thehill.com/policy/transportati ... pitch/amp/
..peacefully and patriotically make your voices heard..
JMU Football: 2022 & 2023 Sun Belt East Champions...But you have to go home now. We have to have peace…
..I know how you feel, but go home, and go home in peace.
-
- Level2
- Posts: 2012
- Joined: Mon Jul 16, 2007 11:24 pm
- I am a fan of: DELAWARE
Re: Texan Border Action
FYPkalm wrote: ↑Tue Feb 06, 2024 4:01 pmOf course it. It’s a bureaucratic group that says what the Dems tell them to say and reminds people to use sick leave even if you’re not sickCaribbean Hen wrote: ↑Tue Feb 06, 2024 2:33 pm
The union? The union is not the worker bees on the ground
(Oops…I said a dirty word didn’t I?)
-
- Supporter
- Posts: 59651
- Joined: Thu Oct 01, 2009 3:36 pm
- I am a fan of: Eastern
- A.K.A.: Humus The Proud
- Location: Northern Palouse
Re: Texan Border Action
Wait! Are you implying that labor is on the left side of the spectrum and that establishment Dems are center right?
-
- Level2
- Posts: 2012
- Joined: Mon Jul 16, 2007 11:24 pm
- I am a fan of: DELAWARE
Re: Texan Border Action
-
- Supporter
- Posts: 59651
- Joined: Thu Oct 01, 2009 3:36 pm
- I am a fan of: Eastern
- A.K.A.: Humus The Proud
- Location: Northern Palouse
Re: Texan Border Action
What other real world observations have you made about labor? Or is that it?Caribbean Hen wrote: ↑Wed Feb 07, 2024 9:24 amI’m just providing you with some real world observations
I’ll let you classify left right