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Winterborn wrote: Tue Jan 18, 2022 5:12 am
Ivytalk wrote: Mon Jan 17, 2022 8:02 pm

88, I think you were never a team captain in elementary school kickball, because you could never pick a side.

I'm just sittin' on a fence
You can say I got no sense
Trying to make up my mind
Really is too horrifying
So I'm sittin on a fence

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I’m so happy with my feet on the ground
So happy my head spins around
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AZGrizFan wrote: Mon Jan 17, 2022 12:04 pm
BDKJMU wrote: Mon Jan 17, 2022 12:00 pm
But they aren’t being applied equally, and they won’t be applied equally.
Which is my primary issue. Not that they be held accountable, but that only ONE side is being held accountable.


Bullshit in general.

And specifically, there was only one side present at 1/6. :nod:

(Thats why the cops got caught with their pants down by the Back the Blue folks. It was kind of like the civil war: aryan brothers just beating the fuck out of each other. I'm surprised we don't hear more about the delicious irony..) :thumb:
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houndawg wrote: Tue Jan 18, 2022 9:01 pm
AZGrizFan wrote: Mon Jan 17, 2022 12:04 pm

Which is my primary issue. Not that they be held accountable, but that only ONE side is being held accountable.


Bullshit in general.

And specifically, there was only one side present at 1/6. :nod:

(Thats why the cops got caught with their pants down by the Back the Blue folks. It was kind of like the civil war: aryan brothers just beating the fuck out of each other. I'm surprised we don't hear more about the delicious irony..) :thumb:
Yes, I’m aware. The OTHER side is present in every OTHER city in America that’s been destroyed by them. The list is long and illustrious.
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AZGrizFan wrote: Tue Jan 18, 2022 9:02 pm
houndawg wrote: Tue Jan 18, 2022 9:01 pm [/i][/b]

Bullshit in general.

And specifically, there was only one side present at 1/6. :nod:

(Thats why the cops got caught with their pants down by the Back the Blue folks. It was kind of like the civil war: aryan brothers just beating the fuck out of each other. I'm surprised we don't hear more about the delicious irony..) :thumb:
Yes, I’m aware. The OTHER side is present in every OTHER city in America that’s been destroyed by them. The list is long and illustrious.
Maybe that’s the confusion here. There’s usually only one side to an insurrection? It’s the insurrectionists versus…well the rest of us. :coffee:

(Yeah, yeah…only one side to a riot…blah, blah, blah.)
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kalm wrote: Tue Jan 18, 2022 9:19 pm
AZGrizFan wrote: Tue Jan 18, 2022 9:02 pm

Yes, I’m aware. The OTHER side is present in every OTHER city in America that’s been destroyed by them. The list is long and illustrious.
Maybe that’s the confusion here. There’s usually only one side to an insurrection? It’s the insurrectionists versus…well the rest of us. :coffee:

(Yeah, yeah…only one side to a riot…blah, blah, blah.)
Given that there was no insurrection your argument is moot. :coffee:
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AZGrizFan wrote: Tue Jan 18, 2022 9:02 pm
houndawg wrote: Tue Jan 18, 2022 9:01 pm [/i][/b]

Bullshit in general.

And specifically, there was only one side present at 1/6. :nod:

(Thats why the cops got caught with their pants down by the Back the Blue folks. It was kind of like the civil war: aryan brothers just beating the fuck out of each other. I'm surprised we don't hear more about the delicious irony..) :thumb:
Yes, I’m aware. The OTHER side is present in every OTHER city in America that’s been destroyed by them. The list is long and illustrious.

Bullshit. The cops waste no time getting busy kicking ass at any BLM event and were more than ready for the BLM march at the Capitol. Thats whats so hilarious about them getting the shit kicked out of them by those they thought were their friends. I bet that Capitol cop with the MAGA hat doesn't wear it to work anymore. :coffee:
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houndawg wrote: Tue Jan 18, 2022 9:25 pm
AZGrizFan wrote: Tue Jan 18, 2022 9:02 pm

Yes, I’m aware. The OTHER side is present in every OTHER city in America that’s been destroyed by them. The list is long and illustrious.

Bullshit. The cops waste no time getting busy kicking ass at any BLM event and were more than ready for the BLM march at the Capitol. Thats whats so hilarious about them getting the shit kicked out of them by those they thought were their friends. I bet that Capitol cop with the MAGA hat doesn't wear it to work anymore. :coffee:
:rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

You must be watching different coverage than me. What I’ve seen repeatedly is BLM rioters are handled with kid gloves. Cops are literally removed from the scene so as not to accidentally shoot a black rioter and cause another commotion. Has happened over. And over. And over. And over. Hell they literally surrendered Seattle, Portland, Minneapolis and several other cities to the BLM and ANTIFA turds for fear of a confrontation.
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In a rebuff to former President Donald Trump, the Supreme Court is allowing the release of presidential documents sought by the congressional committee investigating the Jan. 6 insurrection.

The justices on Wednesday rejected a bid by Trump to withhold the documents from the committee until the issue is finally resolved by the courts. Trump’s lawyers had hoped to prolong the court fight and keep the documents on hold.

Following the high court’s action, there is no legal impediment to turning over the documents, which are held by the National Archives and Records Administration. They include presidential diaries, visitor logs, speech drafts and handwritten notes dealing with Jan. 6 from the files of former chief of staff Mark Meadows.
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AZGrizFan wrote:
kalm wrote: Tue Jan 18, 2022 9:19 pm Maybe that’s the confusion here. There’s usually only one side to an insurrection? It’s the insurrectionists versus…well the rest of us. :coffee:

(Yeah, yeah…only one side to a riot…blah, blah, blah.)
Given that there was no insurrection your argument is moot. :coffee:
Creating an autonomous zone is the very definition of an insurrection.


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AZGrizFan wrote: Tue Jan 18, 2022 10:00 pm
houndawg wrote: Tue Jan 18, 2022 9:25 pm


Bullshit. The cops waste no time getting busy kicking ass at any BLM event and were more than ready for the BLM march at the Capitol. Thats whats so hilarious about them getting the shit kicked out of them by those they thought were their friends. I bet that Capitol cop with the MAGA hat doesn't wear it to work anymore. :coffee:
:rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

You must be watching different coverage than me. What I’ve seen repeatedly is BLM rioters are handled with kid gloves. Cops are literally removed from the scene so as not to accidentally shoot a black rioter and cause another commotion. Has happened over. And over. And over. And over. Hell they literally surrendered Seattle, Portland, Minneapolis and several other cities to the BLM and ANTIFA turds for fear of a confrontation.
And they surrendered the Capitol to their fellow white-supremacist cop turds. We need a rematch on that one :rofl:
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houndawg wrote: Thu Jan 20, 2022 7:13 am
AZGrizFan wrote: Tue Jan 18, 2022 10:00 pm

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

You must be watching different coverage than me. What I’ve seen repeatedly is BLM rioters are handled with kid gloves. Cops are literally removed from the scene so as not to accidentally shoot a black rioter and cause another commotion. Has happened over. And over. And over. And over. Hell they literally surrendered Seattle, Portland, Minneapolis and several other cities to the BLM and ANTIFA turds for fear of a confrontation.
And they surrendered the Capitol to their fellow white-supremacist cop turds. We need a rematch on that one :rofl:
Yes because 25 people for 2 hours is exactly the same thing as rioting and burning cities for literally months on end.

Exactly the same.

You sure you’re not suffering from the same thing Biden is suffering from? :suspicious: :suspicious:
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AZGrizFan wrote: Thu Jan 20, 2022 8:03 am
houndawg wrote: Thu Jan 20, 2022 7:13 am

And they surrendered the Capitol to their fellow white-supremacist cop turds. We need a rematch on that one :rofl:
Yes because 25 people for 2 hours is exactly the same thing as rioting and burning cities for literally months on end.

Exactly the same.

You sure you’re not suffering from the same thing Biden is suffering from? :suspicious: :suspicious:
Actually the death toll was higher at the Capitol. :nod:

You're just lashing out over your butthurt at being taken to the woodshed by young clenz. :coffee:
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houndawg wrote: Thu Jan 20, 2022 11:21 am
AZGrizFan wrote: Thu Jan 20, 2022 8:03 am
Yes because 25 people for 2 hours is exactly the same thing as rioting and burning cities for literally months on end.

Exactly the same.

You sure you’re not suffering from the same thing Biden is suffering from? :suspicious: :suspicious:
Actually the death toll was higher at the Capitol. :nod:

You're just lashing out over your butthurt at being taken to the woodshed by young clenz. :coffee:
1 > 1?

One person died violently at the Capitol (Ashli Babbitt). At least one person died violently during the AnTiFa/BLM protests (Aaron Danielson).
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UNI88 wrote: Thu Jan 20, 2022 11:28 am
houndawg wrote: Thu Jan 20, 2022 11:21 am

Actually the death toll was higher at the Capitol. :nod:

You're just lashing out over your butthurt at being taken to the woodshed by young clenz. :coffee:
1 > 1?

One person died violently at the Capitol (Ashli Babbitt). At least one person died violently during the AnTiFa/BLM protests (Aaron Danielson).
5 deaths due to Capitol violence. :nod: :coffee:

5>1
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houndawg wrote: Thu Jan 20, 2022 11:32 am
UNI88 wrote: Thu Jan 20, 2022 11:28 am

1 > 1?

One person died violently at the Capitol (Ashli Babbitt). At least one person died violently during the AnTiFa/BLM protests (Aaron Danielson).
5 deaths due to Capitol violence. :nod: :coffee:

5>1
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AZGrizFan wrote: Thu Jan 20, 2022 11:46 am
houndawg wrote: Thu Jan 20, 2022 11:32 am

5 deaths due to Capitol violence. :nod: :coffee:

5>1
:rofl: :rofl: :dunce:
...so blue lives don't matter?

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houndawg wrote: Thu Jan 20, 2022 12:06 pm
AZGrizFan wrote: Thu Jan 20, 2022 11:46 am

:rofl: :rofl: :dunce:
...so blue lives don't matter?

AZGrizFan :ohno:
…so five cops died on 1/6?
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houndawg wrote: Thu Jan 20, 2022 11:32 am
UNI88 wrote: Thu Jan 20, 2022 11:28 am
1 > 1?

One person died violently at the Capitol (Ashli Babbitt). At least one person died violently during the AnTiFa/BLM protests (Aaron Danielson).
5 deaths due to Capitol violence. :nod: :coffee:

5>1
You count January 6 deaths like the CDC counts COVID deaths.
  • Ashli Babbitt, shot by a Capitol Police officer = 1
  • Kevin D. Greeson, heart attack = 0
  • Rosanne Boyland, overdose = 0
  • Benjamin Philips, stroke = 0
  • Officer Brian D. Sicknick, stroke = 0
  • Officer Jeffrey Smith, suicide afterward = ?
  • Officer Howard S. Liebengood, suicide afterward = ?
You have 1 definite and 2 possibles.

A quick check of AnTiFa/BLM riot deaths using your methodology yields the following:
  • Aaron Danielson
  • Michael Reinoehl
  • Lee Keltner
  • Garrett Foster
  • Joseph Rosenbaum
  • Anthony Huber
  • Tyler Gerth
  • Jorge Gomez
A more detailed check will almost certainly lead to more deaths attributable to the AnTiFa/BLM riots especially if you count natural causes, overdoses, etc.

8 is greater than 1, 2, 3 or 7.
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UNI88 wrote: Thu Jan 20, 2022 12:25 pm
houndawg wrote: Thu Jan 20, 2022 11:32 am

5 deaths due to Capitol violence. :nod: :coffee:

5>1
You count January 6 deaths like the CDC counts COVID deaths.
  • Ashli Babbitt, shot by a Capitol Police officer = 1
  • Kevin D. Greeson, heart attack = 0
  • Rosanne Boyland, overdose = 0
  • Benjamin Philips, stroke = 0
  • Officer Brian D. Sicknick, stroke = 0
  • Officer Jeffrey Smith, suicide afterward = ?
  • Officer Howard S. Liebengood, suicide afterward = ?
You have 1 definite and 2 possibles.

A quick check of AnTiFa/BLM riot deaths using your methodology yields the following:
  • Aaron Danielson
  • Michael Reinoehl
  • Lee Keltner
  • Garrett Foster
  • Joseph Rosenbaum
  • Anthony Huber
  • Tyler Gerth
  • Jorge Gomez
A more detailed check will almost certainly lead to more deaths attributable to the AnTiFa/BLM riots especially if you count natural causes, overdoses, etc.

8 is greater than 1, 2, 3 or 7.
Thus endeth the lesson.
Guess we’ll now find out just how deep of a hole densedawg wants to dig on this topic. :rofl:
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AZGrizFan wrote: Thu Jan 20, 2022 12:23 pm
houndawg wrote: Thu Jan 20, 2022 12:06 pm

...so blue lives don't matter?

AZGrizFan :ohno:
…so five cops died on 1/6?
4 - as a result of :nod:

....probably couldn't stand the thought of getting his ass stomped by other cops.
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houndawg wrote: Thu Jan 20, 2022 2:31 pm
AZGrizFan wrote: Thu Jan 20, 2022 12:23 pm

…so five cops died on 1/6?
4 - as a result of :nod:

....probably couldn't stand the thought of getting his ass stomped by other cops.
:lol: Nope. That settles it. You are nothing but a giant troll.
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AZGrizFan wrote: Thu Jan 20, 2022 2:49 pm
houndawg wrote: Thu Jan 20, 2022 2:31 pm

4 - as a result of :nod:

....probably couldn't stand the thought of getting his ass stomped by other cops.
:lol: Nope. That settles it. You are nothing but a giant troll.
You should read the testimony of the survivors. :ohno:
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Seems the government was lying when they said Kamala was "in the building". Now to prove Pence wasn't around either.

How does the DOJ make such a basic mistake?
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So it wasn’t originally just Mike Lindell’s idea. :)

Weeks after the 2020 election, at least one Trump White House aide was named as secretly producing a report that alleged Donald Trump lost to Joe Biden because of Dominion Voting Systems – research that formed the basis of the former president’s wider efforts to overturn the election.

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The previously unreported involvement of the Trump White House aide in the preparation of the Dominion report raises the extraordinary situation of at least one administration official being among the original sources of Trump’s efforts to overturn the 2020 election.

The publicly available version of the Dominion report, which first surfaced in early December 2020 on the conservative outlet the Gateway Pundit, names on the cover and in metadata as its author Katherine Friess, a volunteer on the Trump post-election legal team.

But the Dominion report was in fact produced by the senior Trump White House policy aide Joanna Miller, according to the original version of the document reviewed by the Guardian and a source familiar with the matter, who spoke on the condition of anonymity.

The original version of the Dominion report named Miller - who worked for the senior Trump adviser Peter Navarro – as the author on the cover page, until her name was abruptly replaced with that of Friess before the document was to be released publicly, the source said.

The involvement of a number of other Trump White House aides who worked in Navarro’s office was also scrubbed around that time, the source said. Friess has told the Daily Beast that she had nothing to do with the report and did not know how her name came to be on the document.

It was not clear why Miller’s name was removed from the report, which was sent to Trump’s former attorney Rudy Giuliani on 29 November 2020, or why the White House aide’s involvement was obfuscated in the final 2 December version.

Miller did not immediately respond to a request for comment.
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UNI88 wrote: Thu Jan 20, 2022 12:25 pm
houndawg wrote: Thu Jan 20, 2022 11:32 am

5 deaths due to Capitol violence. :nod: :coffee:

5>1
You count January 6 deaths like the CDC counts COVID deaths.
  • Ashli Babbitt, shot by a Capitol Police officer = 1
  • Kevin D. Greeson, heart attack = 0
  • Rosanne Boyland, overdose = 0
  • Benjamin Philips, stroke = 0
  • Officer Brian D. Sicknick, stroke = 0
  • Officer Jeffrey Smith, suicide afterward = ?
  • Officer Howard S. Liebengood, suicide afterward = ?
You have 1 definite and 2 possibles.

A quick check of AnTiFa/BLM riot deaths using your methodology yields the following:
  • Aaron Danielson
  • Michael Reinoehl
  • Lee Keltner
  • Garrett Foster
  • Joseph Rosenbaum
  • Anthony Huber
  • Tyler Gerth
  • Jorge Gomez
A more detailed check will almost certainly lead to more deaths attributable to the AnTiFa/BLM riots especially if you count natural causes, overdoses, etc.

8 is greater than 1, 2, 3 or 7.
I missed this one, 88, so I didn't get a chance to thank you for supporting my contention that the cops react differently to BLM protests than they do to MAGA protests. :thumb:
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