Well, first of all, there was 1 death at the 1/6 event. 2nd of all, when you’re rioting for months on end in cities across the country like ANTIFA/BLM punks have been, a few deaths are bound to happen. There were more deaths in the Seattle autonomous zone than in DC. You have ZERO way to win this argument, but go ahead and keep digging. It’s become comical. it’s like your “Reek” moment…houndawg wrote: ↑Sun Mar 20, 2022 7:34 amI missed this one, 88, so I didn't get a chance to thank you for supporting my contention that the cops react differently to BLM protests than they do to MAGA protests.UNI88 wrote: ↑Thu Jan 20, 2022 12:25 pm
You count January 6 deaths like the CDC counts COVID deaths.You have 1 definite and 2 possibles.
- Ashli Babbitt, shot by a Capitol Police officer = 1
- Kevin D. Greeson, heart attack = 0
- Rosanne Boyland, overdose = 0
- Benjamin Philips, stroke = 0
- Officer Brian D. Sicknick, stroke = 0
- Officer Jeffrey Smith, suicide afterward = ?
- Officer Howard S. Liebengood, suicide afterward = ?
A quick check of AnTiFa/BLM riot deaths using your methodology yields the following:A more detailed check will almost certainly lead to more deaths attributable to the AnTiFa/BLM riots especially if you count natural causes, overdoses, etc.
- Aaron Danielson
- Michael Reinoehl
- Lee Keltner
- Garrett Foster
- Joseph Rosenbaum
- Anthony Huber
- Tyler Gerth
- Jorge Gomez
8 is greater than 1, 2, 3 or 7.
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I’m just happy we’re measuring severity of threat by death count again.AZGrizFan wrote: ↑Sun Mar 20, 2022 8:04 amWell, first of all, there was 1 death at the 1/6 event. 2nd of all, when you’re rioting for months on end in cities across the country like ANTIFA/BLM punks have been, a few deaths are bound to happen. There were more deaths in the Seattle autonomous zone than in DC. You have ZERO way to win this argument, but go ahead and keep digging. It’s become comical. it’s like your “Reek” moment…
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My favorite was when they gunned down the two young black kids inside the autonomous zone for joy riding in a car. Not only that, but then they prevented the paramedics from entering and at least trying to save them.AZGrizFan wrote: ↑Sun Mar 20, 2022 8:04 amWell, first of all, there was 1 death at the 1/6 event. 2nd of all, when you’re rioting for months on end in cities across the country like ANTIFA/BLM punks have been, a few deaths are bound to happen. There were more deaths in the Seattle autonomous zone than in DC. You have ZERO way to win this argument, but go ahead and keep digging. It’s become comical. it’s like your “Reek” moment…
The other doozy was when they were protesting on the Interstate and got run over by someone illegally entering the interstate. Blamed it on white rage until it was discovered it was some poor black WSU student who simply didn't know they were standing in the middle of the interstate.
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As soon as Biden stops begging them to increase oil production? Or after Trump’s 2024-2028 term?kalm wrote:I’m just happy we’re measuring severity of threat by death count again.AZGrizFan wrote: ↑Sun Mar 20, 2022 8:04 am Well, first of all, there was 1 death at the 1/6 event. 2nd of all, when you’re rioting for months on end in cities across the country like ANTIFA/BLM punks have been, a few deaths are bound to happen. There were more deaths in the Seattle autonomous zone than in DC. You have ZERO way to win this argument, but go ahead and keep digging. It’s become comical. it’s like your “Reek” moment…
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Kissing the ring is in the presidential quick start up instructions.CID1990 wrote: ↑Sun Mar 20, 2022 3:12 pmAs soon as Biden stops begging them to increase oil production? Or after Trump’s 2024-2028 term?kalm wrote:
I’m just happy we’re measuring severity of threat by death count again.
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Yep. 1<Many. ANTIFA/BLM for the win.kalm wrote: ↑Sun Mar 20, 2022 8:20 amI’m just happy we’re measuring severity of threat by death count again.AZGrizFan wrote: ↑Sun Mar 20, 2022 8:04 am
Well, first of all, there was 1 death at the 1/6 event. 2nd of all, when you’re rioting for months on end in cities across the country like ANTIFA/BLM punks have been, a few deaths are bound to happen. There were more deaths in the Seattle autonomous zone than in DC. You have ZERO way to win this argument, but go ahead and keep digging. It’s become comical. it’s like your “Reek” moment…
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Muh insurrection...
*This was the first Jan 6th thread I found. Couldn't remember which one was the mega-insurrection thread.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics ... story.htmlWASHINGTON — A federal judge on Wednesday acquitted a New Mexico man of misdemeanor charges that he illegally entered the U.S. Capitol and engaged in disorderly conduct after he walked into the building during last year’s riot.
U.S. District Judge Trevor McFadden issued the verdict from the bench after hearing testimony without a jury in the case against Matthew Martin. McFadden, who was nominated by former President Donald Trump, acquitted Martin of all four counts for which he was charged.
McFadden said it was reasonable for Martin to believe that outnumbered police officers allowed him and others to enter the Capitol through the Rotunda doors on Jan. 6, 2021. The judge also said Martin’s actions were “about as minimal and non-serious” as anyone who was at the Capitol that day.
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January 6 was the biggest threat to America ever! Impeach the judge! Save our Republic!SDHornet wrote: ↑Wed Apr 06, 2022 9:58 pm Muh insurrection...
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics ... story.htmlWASHINGTON — A federal judge on Wednesday acquitted a New Mexico man of misdemeanor charges that he illegally entered the U.S. Capitol and engaged in disorderly conduct after he walked into the building during last year’s riot.
U.S. District Judge Trevor McFadden issued the verdict from the bench after hearing testimony without a jury in the case against Matthew Martin. McFadden, who was nominated by former President Donald Trump, acquitted Martin of all four counts for which he was charged.
McFadden said it was reasonable for Martin to believe that outnumbered police officers allowed him and others to enter the Capitol through the Rotunda doors on Jan. 6, 2021. The judge also said Martin’s actions were “about as minimal and non-serious” as anyone who was at the Capitol that day.
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You're heart wasn't warmed by the sight of two groups of white supremicists beating the fuck out of each other?HI54UNI wrote: ↑Thu Apr 07, 2022 5:54 amJanuary 6 was the biggest threat to America ever! Impeach the judge! Save our Republic!SDHornet wrote: ↑Wed Apr 06, 2022 9:58 pm Muh insurrection...
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics ... story.html
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I think they should do it every week - you know the capitol cops are spoiling for some payback against their erstwhile allies who made them look really, really bad on 1/6...
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Newsflash: a large chunk of the Capitol Police are black, brown, and yellow..houndawg wrote: ↑Thu Apr 07, 2022 6:45 amYou're heart wasn't warmed by the sight of two groups of white supremicists beating the fuck out of each other?
I think they should do it every week - you know the capitol cops are spoiling for some payback against their erstwhile allies who made them look really, really bad on 1/6...
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Man, you belong to the QAnon of the Left with a whackjob theory like that.houndawg wrote: ↑Thu Apr 07, 2022 6:45 amYou're heart wasn't warmed by the sight of two groups of white supremicists beating the fuck out of each other?
I think they should do it every week - you know the capitol cops are spoiling for some payback against their erstwhile allies who made them look really, really bad on 1/6...
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and a large chunk isn't, especially the ones with the red hatsBDKJMU wrote: ↑Thu Apr 07, 2022 11:55 amNewsflash: a large chunk of the Capitol Police are black, brown, and yellow..houndawg wrote: ↑Thu Apr 07, 2022 6:45 am
You're heart wasn't warmed by the sight of two groups of white supremicists beating the fuck out of each other?
I think they should do it every week - you know the capitol cops are spoiling for some payback against their erstwhile allies who made them look really, really bad on 1/6...
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...off duty cops and capitol police beating the fuck out each other....you're saying it didn't happen?Ivytalk wrote: ↑Thu Apr 07, 2022 7:00 pmMan, you belong to the QAnon of the Left with a whackjob theory like that.houndawg wrote: ↑Thu Apr 07, 2022 6:45 am
You're heart wasn't warmed by the sight of two groups of white supremicists beating the fuck out of each other?
I think they should do it every week - you know the capitol cops are spoiling for some payback against their erstwhile allies who made them look really, really bad on 1/6...
Its right there on film in front of god and everybody.
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I guess they didn’t “control them all”.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.cnn.co ... index.htmlWashington (CNN)Two days after the 2020 presidential election, as votes were still being tallied, Donald Trump's eldest son texted then-White House chief of staff Mark Meadows that "we have operational control" to ensure his father would get a second term, with Republican majorities in the US Senate and swing state legislatures, CNN has learned.
In the text, which has not been previously reported, Donald Trump Jr. lays out ideas for keeping his father in power by subverting the Electoral College process, according to the message reviewed by CNN. The text is among records obtained by the House select committee investigating January 6, 2021.
"It's very simple," Trump Jr. texted to Meadows on November 5, adding later in the same missive: "We have multiple paths We control them all."
In a statement to CNN, Trump Jr.'s lawyer Alan S. Futerfas said, "After the election, Don received numerous messages from supporters and others. Given the date, this message likely originated from someone else and was forwarded."
Immediately before his text to Meadows describing multiple paths for challenging the election, Trump Jr. texted Meadows the following: "This is what we need to do please read it and please get it to everyone that needs to see it because I'm not sure we're doing it."
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The November 5 text message outlines a strategy that is nearly identical to what allies of the former President attempted to carry out in the months that followed. Trump Jr. makes specific reference to filing lawsuits and advocating recounts to prevent certain swing states from certifying their results, as well as having a handful of Republican state houses put forward slates of fake "Trump electors."
If all that failed, according to the Trump Jr. text, GOP lawmakers in Congress could simply vote to reinstall Trump as President on January 6.
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The road apple doesn't fall far from the horse's asskalm wrote: ↑Sat Apr 09, 2022 7:05 am I guess they didn’t “control them all”.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.cnn.co ... index.htmlWashington (CNN)Two days after the 2020 presidential election, as votes were still being tallied, Donald Trump's eldest son texted then-White House chief of staff Mark Meadows that "we have operational control" to ensure his father would get a second term, with Republican majorities in the US Senate and swing state legislatures, CNN has learned.
In the text, which has not been previously reported, Donald Trump Jr. lays out ideas for keeping his father in power by subverting the Electoral College process, according to the message reviewed by CNN. The text is among records obtained by the House select committee investigating January 6, 2021.
"It's very simple," Trump Jr. texted to Meadows on November 5, adding later in the same missive: "We have multiple paths We control them all."
In a statement to CNN, Trump Jr.'s lawyer Alan S. Futerfas said, "After the election, Don received numerous messages from supporters and others. Given the date, this message likely originated from someone else and was forwarded."
Immediately before his text to Meadows describing multiple paths for challenging the election, Trump Jr. texted Meadows the following: "This is what we need to do please read it and please get it to everyone that needs to see it because I'm not sure we're doing it."
What to know about the Trump 'fake electors' scheme
What to know about the Trump 'fake electors' scheme
The November 5 text message outlines a strategy that is nearly identical to what allies of the former President attempted to carry out in the months that followed. Trump Jr. makes specific reference to filing lawsuits and advocating recounts to prevent certain swing states from certifying their results, as well as having a handful of Republican state houses put forward slates of fake "Trump electors."
If all that failed, according to the Trump Jr. text, GOP lawmakers in Congress could simply vote to reinstall Trump as President on January 6.
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And you can see why Ginny Thomas was so excited. Not that Clarence knew anything about it or anything.houndawg wrote: ↑Sun Apr 10, 2022 7:09 amThe road apple doesn't fall far from the horse's asskalm wrote: ↑Sat Apr 09, 2022 7:05 am I guess they didn’t “control them all”.
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she was going to surprise him after the election
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Uh oh - Oath Keepers member pleads guilty to sedition in U.S. Capitol attack
Is Reuters peddling Fake News?
How was it not seditious when 3 people have already plead guility to seditious conspiracy and obstruction charges?William Todd Wilson of North Carolina pleaded guilty during a federal court hearing in Washington. He was the third Oath Keepers defendant to plead guilty to seditious conspiracy and obstruction charges.
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I still would be shocked if any politicians face anything other than harsh words. But yeah…there’s more and more evidence of a greater conspiracy.UNI88 wrote: ↑Thu May 05, 2022 11:25 am Uh oh - Oath Keepers member pleads guilty to sedition in U.S. Capitol attack
How was it not seditious when 3 people have already plead guility to seditious conspiracy and obstruction charges?William Todd Wilson of North Carolina pleaded guilty during a federal court hearing in Washington. He was the third Oath Keepers defendant to plead guilty to seditious conspiracy and obstruction charges.
Is Reuters peddling Fake News?
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Is there??? I'm not that tied into the news on this, but what conspiracy is there that we don't already know about? Trump wanted Pence to not certify the count. And he was plenty good with people from his rally creating havoc at the Capitol. And some other Trumpster Congressfolk were good with that. Is there something more?kalm wrote: ↑Thu May 05, 2022 11:54 amI still would be shocked if any politicians face anything other than harsh words. But yeah…there’s more and more evidence of a greater conspiracy.UNI88 wrote: ↑Thu May 05, 2022 11:25 am Uh oh - Oath Keepers member pleads guilty to sedition in U.S. Capitol attack
How was it not seditious when 3 people have already plead guility to seditious conspiracy and obstruction charges?
Is Reuters peddling Fake News?
How does this compare to the other coup attempt the Dems tried to do in 2016 and beyond? Creating fake reports showing Trump to be a compromised Manchurian candidate doing the walking orders of the Russian government and passing this off the FBI as real. The prior administration making sure "evidence" of this was sprinkled throughout government on their way out so that the subsequent administration would be hobbled with investigations and given the taint of illegitimacy to the point of impeachment (the first one, the second one was legit, but once you go down that well without the goods the first time it makes the next attempts seem to be lesser). We've never had a non-peaceful transfer of power in this country (well, 2000 was questionable as well, Gore didn't really walk away gracefully) and I would argue, with pretty good evidence, that 2016 was anything but peaceful. It didn't have the dramatics of ruffians attacking Capitol police and then the masses wandering around the building taking pictures and stealing things, but it amounted to the same thing - a large segment of this country not assenting to the transfer of power following an election. And don't get me wrong, I think Trump is a despicable human being, but he was elected. We like to tease Jelly for going along with this charade as much as he did, but the fact that such a charade existed in the first place is rather chilling.
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Yes. There’s a ton, including quiet parts said out loud via texts, phone calls, and even Bannon and Navarro on podcasts.GannonFan wrote: ↑Thu May 05, 2022 12:18 pmIs there??? I'm not that tied into the news on this, but what conspiracy is there that we don't already know about? Trump wanted Pence to not certify the count. And he was plenty good with people from his rally creating havoc at the Capitol. And some other Trumpster Congressfolk were good with that. Is there something more?
How does this compare to the other coup attempt the Dems tried to do in 2016 and beyond? Creating fake reports showing Trump to be a compromised Manchurian candidate doing the walking orders of the Russian government and passing this off the FBI as real. The prior administration making sure "evidence" of this was sprinkled throughout government on their way out so that the subsequent administration would be hobbled with investigations and given the taint of illegitimacy to the point of impeachment (the first one, the second one was legit, but once you go down that well without the goods the first time it makes the next attempts seem to be lesser). We've never had a non-peaceful transfer of power in this country (well, 2000 was questionable as well, Gore didn't really walk away gracefully) and I would argue, with pretty good evidence, that 2016 was anything but peaceful. It didn't have the dramatics of ruffians attacking Capitol police and then the masses wandering around the building taking pictures and stealing things, but it amounted to the same thing - a large segment of this country not assenting to the transfer of power following an election. And don't get me wrong, I think Trump is a despicable human being, but he was elected. We like to tease Jelly for going along with this charade as much as he did, but the fact that such a charade existed in the first place is rather chilling.
Regardless of Trump’s relationships in Russia and Ukraine.
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Notice how he doesn’t even acknowledge or address the entire body of your post? It’s like 2016 didn’t happen. It’s like Russian collusion hoax didn’t happen. It’s like a sitting president undermining his successor before he even takes office didn’t happen.kalm wrote: ↑Thu May 05, 2022 12:32 pmYes. There’s a ton, including quiet parts said out loud via texts, phone calls, and even Bannon and Navarro on podcasts.GannonFan wrote: ↑Thu May 05, 2022 12:18 pm
Is there??? I'm not that tied into the news on this, but what conspiracy is there that we don't already know about? Trump wanted Pence to not certify the count. And he was plenty good with people from his rally creating havoc at the Capitol. And some other Trumpster Congressfolk were good with that. Is there something more?
How does this compare to the other coup attempt the Dems tried to do in 2016 and beyond? Creating fake reports showing Trump to be a compromised Manchurian candidate doing the walking orders of the Russian government and passing this off the FBI as real. The prior administration making sure "evidence" of this was sprinkled throughout government on their way out so that the subsequent administration would be hobbled with investigations and given the taint of illegitimacy to the point of impeachment (the first one, the second one was legit, but once you go down that well without the goods the first time it makes the next attempts seem to be lesser). We've never had a non-peaceful transfer of power in this country (well, 2000 was questionable as well, Gore didn't really walk away gracefully) and I would argue, with pretty good evidence, that 2016 was anything but peaceful. It didn't have the dramatics of ruffians attacking Capitol police and then the masses wandering around the building taking pictures and stealing things, but it amounted to the same thing - a large segment of this country not assenting to the transfer of power following an election. And don't get me wrong, I think Trump is a despicable human being, but he was elected. We like to tease Jelly for going along with this charade as much as he did, but the fact that such a charade existed in the first place is rather chilling.
Regardless of Trump’s relationships in Russia and Ukraine.
Nope, according to Klammy, we should be MORE worried a bout a guy in a buffalo hat stealing a podium.
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Hey…prosecute Hilldog and Obama to your hearts content. While you’re add it let’s take a closer look at Rudy, Manafort, and team Trump’s doings in RUS and UKR.AZGrizFan wrote: ↑Fri May 06, 2022 9:18 amNotice how he doesn’t even acknowledge or address the entire body of your post? It’s like 2016 didn’t happen. It’s like Russian collusion hoax didn’t happen. It’s like a sitting president undermining his successor before he even takes office didn’t happen.
Nope, according to Klammy, we should be MORE worried a bout a guy in a buffalo hat stealing a podium.
Corruption and anti-democratic campaign meddling are issues that should transcend left and right, no?
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What is UKR? And if that’s Ukraine, Biden and his crackhead son are at the top of THAT prosecution list.kalm wrote: ↑Fri May 06, 2022 9:23 amHey…prosecute Hilldog and Obama to your hearts content. While you’re add it let’s take a closer look at Rudy, Manafort, and team Trump’s doings in RUS and UKR.AZGrizFan wrote: ↑Fri May 06, 2022 9:18 am
Notice how he doesn’t even acknowledge or address the entire body of your post? It’s like 2016 didn’t happen. It’s like Russian collusion hoax didn’t happen. It’s like a sitting president undermining his successor before he even takes office didn’t happen.
Nope, according to Klammy, we should be MORE worried a bout a guy in a buffalo hat stealing a podium.
Corruption and anti-democratic campaign meddling are issues that should transcend left and right, no?
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Re: January 6 - How much do you care?
As I’ve said before, prosecute the Biden’s too. You should also refresh your memory on who Paul Manafort is and how much time Rudy spent in UKR as well as the weapons deal Trump was pushing.
They’re all sleazy. No one gets out alive.
Still not the same as 1/6. Not even close.