January 6 - How much do you care?

[UNI88]

I do love the pearl clutching by both sides ... "oh my, this was an existential threat to the republic, we have to get to the bottom of it" vs. "this was just a peaceful protest, no big deal, we need to move on".

how is "no big deal, we need to move on" = "pearl clutching"?

It was a big deal and should be investigated. Maybe it would have been more accurate if I'd used "obfuscating and whining like b!tches" instead of "pearl clutching".

And those who complain about this being one-sided are "whining like b!tches". It's McCarthy's, not Pelosi's, fault it's one-sided and he did that with trump's blessing.

[GannonFan]

how is "no big deal, we need to move on" = "pearl clutching"?

And those who complain about this being one-sided are "whining like b!tches". It's McCarthy's, not Pelosi's, fault it's one-sided and he did that with trump's blessing.

Eh, while I put more of the blame on the GOP for making it one-sided, the Dems did deny the GOP multiple people they wanted on the committee. I don't think committees are normally that restrictive from the majority party. It was after the GOP wasn't able to name who they wanted on the committee that the left the process. Both sides got what they wanted, a truly political process they could spin to their constituents.

[BDKJMU]

Can’t tell from the pic if the circled person is walking or jogging. Certainly doesn’t look like ‘running’..

If you watched the hearing you’d know the pic is a still from the video showing him running.

Ok, but that’s not running. That’s jogging. Big difference. So its fake news that he was running.

[UNI88]

And those who complain about this being one-sided are "whining like b!tches". It's McCarthy's, not Pelosi's, fault it's one-sided and he did that with trump's blessing.

Eh, while I put more of the blame on the GOP for making it one-sided, the Dems did deny the GOP multiple people they wanted on the committee. I don't think committees are normally that restrictive from the majority party. It was after the GOP wasn't able to name who they wanted on the committee that the left the process. Both sides got what they wanted, a truly political process they could spin to their constituents.

I don't like Pelosi but I don't have a problem with her rejecting the appointment of people who reasonably might have been called to testify before the committee. That would have created a conflict of interest.

January 6 was a serious event that should have been seriously investigated. McCarthy tried to appoint some people who were likely to turn it into a circus. That was a failure in leadership on his part.

[SeattleGriz]

Less than 3% of the population tuned in last night. Boring.

[GannonFan]

Eh, while I put more of the blame on the GOP for making it one-sided, the Dems did deny the GOP multiple people they wanted on the committee. I don't think committees are normally that restrictive from the majority party. It was after the GOP wasn't able to name who they wanted on the committee that the left the process. Both sides got what they wanted, a truly political process they could spin to their constituents.

I don't like Pelosi but I don't have a problem with her rejecting the appointment of people who reasonably might have been called to testify before the committee. That would have created a conflict of interest.

January 6 was a serious event that should have been seriously investigated. McCarthy tried to appoint some people who were likely to turn it into a circus. That was a failure in leadership on his part.

In theory, anybody could have been called before the committee. Pelosi said no to Banks, Jordan, and Nehls, and specifically called out that they had voted objections to the electoral count. If that was a disqualification, why is Raskin on the committee as he did the same thing in the 2016 election? And Schiff is on the committee, and after his grandstanding in the Russia probe, one could argue his conduct was far more detrimental than a symbolic objection vote during the count. And I think to date only Jordan has even been a target of investigation.

Like I said, I place more of the blame on the GOP, but the Dems were more than happy to make this a political event in the hopes of impacting future elections (as in the current midterm) rather than a somber and neutral investigation. One thinks if they hadn't pursued impeachment for all 4 of Trump's years that when they impeached him following the Jan 6th riots more people would have gone along with it then and they could've gotten a conviction in the Senate. Probably would've changed the whole tenor of where we are now.

[GannonFan]

Less than 3% of the population tuned in last night. Boring.

My wife has watched all of them and if I happen to be there I watch with her. Haven't seen everything but I find political stuff hard to watch - heck, I haven't sat through a whole State of the Union since the 90's. I'm not sure what we've learned that we didn't know in real time or just soon after. Trump never did anything quietly or secretively - he was an open book and pretty much tweeted what went on or was on camera doing/saying it. I would've voted to impeach Trump for his actions and inactions then. But like I said, the Dems cheapened impeachment with the first time they impeached him so that played a part in not getting him removed when it was truly appropriate after 1/6. That's what happens when you play political games unfortunately.

I turned over to Peaky Blinders - just finished season 5 and moving onto the last season. Far better entertainment.

[BDKJMU]

Eh, while I put more of the blame on the GOP for making it one-sided, the Dems did deny the GOP multiple people they wanted on the committee. I don't think committees are normally that restrictive from the majority party. It was after the GOP wasn't able to name who they wanted on the committee that the left the process. Both sides got what they wanted, a truly political process they could spin to their constituents.

I don't like Pelosi but I don't have a problem with her rejecting the appointment of people who reasonably might have been called to testify before the committee. That would have created a conflict of interest.

January 6 was a serious event that should have been seriously investigated. McCarthy tried to appoint some people who were likely to turn it into a circus. That was a failure in leadership on his part.

Newsflash- it already is a circus.

[UNI88]

I don't like Pelosi but I don't have a problem with her rejecting the appointment of people who reasonably might have been called to testify before the committee. That would have created a conflict of interest.

January 6 was a serious event that should have been seriously investigated. McCarthy tried to appoint some people who were likely to turn it into a circus. That was a failure in leadership on his part.

In theory, anybody could have been called before the committee. Pelosi said no to Banks, Jordan, and Nehls, and specifically called out that they had voted objections to the electoral count. If that was a disqualification, why is Raskin on the committee as he did the same thing in the 2016 election? And Schiff is on the committee, and after his grandstanding in the Russia probe, one could argue his conduct was far more detrimental than a symbolic objection vote during the count. And I think to date only Jordan has even been a target of investigation.

Like I said, I place more of the blame on the GOP, but the Dems were more than happy to make this a political event in the hopes of impacting future elections (as in the current midterm) rather than a somber and neutral investigation. One thinks if they hadn't pursued impeachment for all 4 of Trump's years that when they impeached him following the Jan 6th riots more people would have gone along with it then and they could've gotten a conviction in the Senate. Probably would've changed the whole tenor of where we are now.

That's fair and I agree that there is plenty of blame to go around. Like BDK posted, it's already a circus. I do disagree with those who try to blow off January 6 like it was just a peaceful protest and no big deal. It was a big deal and should be investigated. Unfortunately our elected officials are more interested in headlines and stoking their base then actually leading.

[GannonFan]

In theory, anybody could have been called before the committee. Pelosi said no to Banks, Jordan, and Nehls, and specifically called out that they had voted objections to the electoral count. If that was a disqualification, why is Raskin on the committee as he did the same thing in the 2016 election? And Schiff is on the committee, and after his grandstanding in the Russia probe, one could argue his conduct was far more detrimental than a symbolic objection vote during the count. And I think to date only Jordan has even been a target of investigation.

Like I said, I place more of the blame on the GOP, but the Dems were more than happy to make this a political event in the hopes of impacting future elections (as in the current midterm) rather than a somber and neutral investigation. One thinks if they hadn't pursued impeachment for all 4 of Trump's years that when they impeached him following the Jan 6th riots more people would have gone along with it then and they could've gotten a conviction in the Senate. Probably would've changed the whole tenor of where we are now.

That's fair and I agree that there is plenty of blame to go around. Like BDK posted, it's already a circus. I do disagree with those who try to blow off January 6 like it was just a peaceful protest and no big deal. It was a big deal and should be investigated. Unfortunately our elected officials are more interested in headlines and stoking their base then actually leading.

It's actually less of a circus than you typically see out of Congress these days. I just don't think there's a lot of new information that we didn't already know. We're 18 months after this thing now and we generally know now what we knew then - Trump was crazy. And Guilianni was a toady. I knew those things. I thought everyone else did too.

[Baldy]

Interesting thread that puts a lot of this into perspective.

[houndawg]

Less than 3% of the population tuned in last night. Boring.

Pro Tip: The population that watches TV is much smaller than the total population. And 20,000,000 people is still a lot of people.

What did you find boring about it? Heck, Josh Hawley had them in stitches..

[houndawg]

That's fair and I agree that there is plenty of blame to go around. Like BDK posted, it's already a circus. I do disagree with those who try to blow off January 6 like it was just a peaceful protest and no big deal. It was a big deal and should be investigated. Unfortunately our elected officials are more interested in headlines and stoking their base then actually leading.

It's actually less of a circus than you typically see out of Congress these days. I just don't think there's a lot of new information that we didn't already know. We're 18 months after this thing now and we generally know now what we knew then - Trump was crazy. And Guilianni was a toady. I knew those things. I thought everyone else did too.

We didn't know the US Secret Service is dirty and that agents close to Trump are lawyering up and that the VP's detail was making calls home to say goodbye.

Puts a lot of strain on a guy's carefully-crafted image as a thoughtful moderate to ignore that

[SeattleGriz]

Less than 3% of the population tuned in last night. Boring.

Pro Tip: The population that watches TV is much smaller than the total population. And 20,000,000 people is still a lot of people.

What did you find boring about it? Heck, Josh Hawley had them in stitches..

The same thing I find boring about all of government. The theater of the absurd. Gets old.

[AZGrizFan]

It's actually less of a circus than you typically see out of Congress these days. I just don't think there's a lot of new information that we didn't already know. We're 18 months after this thing now and we generally know now what we knew then - Trump was crazy. And Guilianni was a toady. I knew those things. I thought everyone else did too.

We didn't know the US Secret Service is dirty and that agents close to Trump are lawyering up and that the VP's detail was making calls home to say goodbye.

Puts a lot of strain on a guy's carefully-crafted image as a thoughtful moderate to ignore that

You didn’t know the SS is dirty? What rock have you been living under?

[kalm]

[houndawg]

We didn't know the US Secret Service is dirty and that agents close to Trump are lawyering up and that the VP's detail was making calls home to say goodbye.

Puts a lot of strain on a guy's carefully-crafted image as a thoughtful moderate to ignore that

You didn’t know the SS is dirty? What rock have you been living under?

didn't know how dirty is more correct I guess

[houndawg]

Give her a microphone and turn her loose!

[kalm]

He should also have asked permission to use the image.

Josh Hawley, the Missouri senator shown running from the mob he incited on January 6, is “a laughingstock” who should be afraid of what the Capitol attack committee might disclose next, a leading newspaper in his home state said.

Donald Trump looks on during a rally ahead of Arizona primary elections.

Hawley was widely criticised for raising a fist to protesters outside Congress on 6 January 2021, then after the mob sent by Donald Trump failed to stop certification of Joe Biden’s election win, voting to object to results anyway.


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The senator cast that vote, American voters now know, after running when rioters broke into Congress.

In an editorial, the Kansas City Star noted that Hawley will soon publish a book entitled Manhood: The Masculine Virtues America Needs, but said people watching the hearing “didn’t see much virile bravado as he ran from the mob”.

The Star began: “Josh Hawley is a laughingstock. During Thursday night’s televised hearings of the House committee investigating the January 6 2021 coup attempt … [Democratic] representative Elaine Luria showed video of Missouri’s junior senator that will surely follow him the rest of his life.………..

The editorial signed off with a warning. Noting the work of Liz Cheney, a Wyoming Republican nonetheless vice-chair of the January 6 committee, it said: “Josh Hawley might not fear a little mockery of his hasty flight from Capitol marauders.

“But he might be justified if he’s afraid of what emails or text messages some previously-loyal staffer might be considering turning over to the House committee.

“Stay tuned to the hearings.”

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/202 ... &fs=e&s=cl

[BDKJMU]

Less than 3% of the population tuned in last night. Boring.

Pro Tip: The population that watches TV is much smaller than the total population. And 20,000,000 people is still a lot of people.

What did you find boring about it? Heck, Josh Hawley had them in stitches..

Not anymore.
https://deadline.com/2022/07/january-6t ... 235075449/

So basically the hearings have avg about 4% of the American public watching, 99% of whom already vote donk anyway..

[kalm]

Pro Tip: The population that watches TV is much smaller than the total population. And 20,000,000 people is still a lot of people.

What did you find boring about it? Heck, Josh Hawley had them in stitches..

Not anymore.
https://deadline.com/2022/07/january-6t ... 235075449/

So basically the hearings have avg about 4% of the American public watching, 99% of whom already vote donk anyway..

Which speaks poorly for Democracy.

[houndawg]

Pro Tip: The population that watches TV is much smaller than the total population. And 20,000,000 people is still a lot of people.

What did you find boring about it? Heck, Josh Hawley had them in stitches..

Not anymore.
https://deadline.com/2022/07/january-6t ... 235075449/

So basically the hearings have avg about 4% of the American public watching, 99% of whom already vote donk anyway..

You guys seem to know quite a bit about whats happening for not watching the hearings.

You're like all the 'tards that don't want their grandchildren to know they used to throw rocks at little black children for attending school.

[HI54UNI]

Clearly this is a very serious committee.

[UNI88]

Clearly this is a very serious committee.

It's not ok to sink to the level of your opponent? Both sides are posting some juvenile but humorous tweets.

[kalm]

Clearly this is a very serious committee.

It's not ok to sink to the level of your opponent? Both sides are posting some juvenile but humorous tweets.

I’d prefer Mr. Kinzinger rise above but I can only imagine the desire to lash out when you and your family are constantly receiving death threats.