January 6 - How much do you care?

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January 6 - How much do you care?

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UNI88 wrote: Mon Jul 25, 2022 9:42 am
HI54UNI wrote: Mon Jul 25, 2022 9:32 am Clearly this is a very serious committee.
It's not ok to sink to the level of your opponent? Both sides are posting some juvenile but humorous tweets.
I don't care what the other side is doing. Our elected officials are all a joke. This is just more evidence that this is all theater and nothing to do with the "greatest threat to democracy since the nation was founded" or whatever other stupid ass talking point the Hollywood producer and polls told them to use.
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In it [Penatgon memo], the IG recounts a fateful meeting on Jan. 3, 2021 in the White House when then-acting Defense Secretary Christopher Miller and Gen. Mark Milley, chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, met with Trump on national security matters.

The complete passage — hardly mentioned by Democrats at the hearings or the news media covering them — is worth absorbing in its entirety.

“Mr. Miller and GEN Milley met with the President at the White House at 5:30 p.m.,” the IG reported. “The primary topic they discussed was unrelated to the scheduled rally. GEN Milley told us that at the end of the meeting, the President told Mr. Miller that there would be a large number of protestors on January 6, 2021, and Mr. Miller should ensure sufficient National Guard or Soldiers would be there to make sure it was a safe event. Gen Milley told us that Mr. Miller responded, ‘We’ve got a plan and we’ve got it covered.'”
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HI54UNI wrote: Mon Jul 25, 2022 1:16 pm
UNI88 wrote: Mon Jul 25, 2022 9:42 am
It's not ok to sink to the level of your opponent? Both sides are posting some juvenile but humorous tweets.
I don't care what the other side is doing. Our elected officials are all a joke. This is just more evidence that this is all theater and nothing to do with the "greatest threat to democracy since the nation was founded" or whatever other stupid ass talking point the Hollywood producer and polls told them to use.
:lol: You don't care what the other side is doing? You post all sorts of stuff that makes fun of Donks and get defensive/deflective when something is posted that makes fun of Conks (but trump). You're drinking the kool-aid out of a firehose. :coffee:

:nod: We agree, our elected officials are a joke. That includes trump, MTG, Boebert, etc.

Unlike the pearl-clutchers, I never thought January 6 was serious threat to our republic. Unlike the deniers, I think it was an attempted insurrection and worthy of a serious investigation. Unfortunately, because of Conks and Donks, we aren't getting a serious investigation.
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WSJ reporting.

Federal grand jury.

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kalm wrote: Mon Jul 25, 2022 5:32 pm WSJ reporting.

Federal grand jury.

Is that the same WSJ that reported Elon Musk slept with the wife of Google’s founder? :coffee: :coffee: :coffee:
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AZGrizFan wrote: Mon Jul 25, 2022 8:49 pm
kalm wrote: Mon Jul 25, 2022 5:32 pm WSJ reporting.

Federal grand jury.

Is that the same WSJ that reported Elon Musk slept with the wife of Google’s founder? :coffee: :coffee: :coffee:
probably so - do you think they got this one wrong too?
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houndawg wrote: Tue Jul 26, 2022 4:35 am
AZGrizFan wrote: Mon Jul 25, 2022 8:49 pm

Is that the same WSJ that reported Elon Musk slept with the wife of Google’s founder? :coffee: :coffee: :coffee:
probably so - do you think they got this one wrong too?
Well, given their demonstrated level of research and due diligence before going to print with something, it’s entirely possible.
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AZGrizFan wrote: Tue Jul 26, 2022 6:42 am
houndawg wrote: Tue Jul 26, 2022 4:35 am

probably so - do you think they got this one wrong too?
Well, given their demonstrated level of research and due diligence before going to print with something, it’s entirely possible.
It’s widely reported including Short admitting he gave testimony.

“In the interview with CNN, Short said it was unfair to characterize the pro-Trump mob as simply exercising their First Amendment free speech rights.

"Certainly there were probably some people who foolishly got caught up in the events that were happening on the sixth, but I think it's unfair to describe the rioters as patriots who were merely expressing their First Amendment rights," he said.“

https://www.reuters.com/world/us/ex-pen ... 022-07-25/

https://www.reuters.com/world/us/ex-pen ... 022-07-25/
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kalm wrote: Tue Jul 26, 2022 6:58 am
AZGrizFan wrote: Tue Jul 26, 2022 6:42 am

Well, given their demonstrated level of research and due diligence before going to print with something, it’s entirely possible.
It’s widely reported including Short admitting he gave testimony.

“In the interview with CNN, Short said it was unfair to characterize the pro-Trump mob as simply exercising their First Amendment free speech rights.

"Certainly there were probably some people who foolishly got caught up in the events that were happening on the sixth, but I think it's unfair to describe the rioters as patriots who were merely expressing their First Amendment rights," he said.“

https://www.reuters.com/world/us/ex-pen ... 022-07-25/

https://www.reuters.com/world/us/ex-pen ... 022-07-25/
Elon Musk sleeping with the wife of Google’s cofounder and causing a divorce and the ending of their friendship was “widely reported” too. Only it was not true.
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AZGrizFan wrote: Tue Jul 26, 2022 7:21 am
kalm wrote: Tue Jul 26, 2022 6:58 am

It’s widely reported including Short admitting he gave testimony.

“In the interview with CNN, Short said it was unfair to characterize the pro-Trump mob as simply exercising their First Amendment free speech rights.

"Certainly there were probably some people who foolishly got caught up in the events that were happening on the sixth, but I think it's unfair to describe the rioters as patriots who were merely expressing their First Amendment rights," he said.“

https://www.reuters.com/world/us/ex-pen ... 022-07-25/

https://www.reuters.com/world/us/ex-pen ... 022-07-25/
Elon Musk sleeping with the wife of Google’s cofounder and causing a divorce and the ending of their friendship was “widely reported” too. Only it was not true.
Did Google’s cofounder or musk admit to it before it was debunked?

So it’s not just WSJ but all sources who are wrong here?

Good god man… :lol:
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kalm wrote: Tue Jul 26, 2022 7:51 am
AZGrizFan wrote: Tue Jul 26, 2022 7:21 am

Elon Musk sleeping with the wife of Google’s cofounder and causing a divorce and the ending of their friendship was “widely reported” too. Only it was not true.
Did Google’s cofounder or musk admit to it before it was debunked?

So it’s not just WSJ but all sources who are wrong here?

Good god man… :lol:
WSJ “broke” the story.
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WaPo reporting Trump is now officially a target of a DOJ criminal investigation.
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BDKJMU wrote: Mon Jul 25, 2022 1:27 pm
In it [Penatgon memo], the IG recounts a fateful meeting on Jan. 3, 2021 in the White House when then-acting Defense Secretary Christopher Miller and Gen. Mark Milley, chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, met with Trump on national security matters.

The complete passage — hardly mentioned by Democrats at the hearings or the news media covering them — is worth absorbing in its entirety.

“Mr. Miller and GEN Milley met with the President at the White House at 5:30 p.m.,” the IG reported. “The primary topic they discussed was unrelated to the scheduled rally. GEN Milley told us that at the end of the meeting, the President told Mr. Miller that there would be a large number of protestors on January 6, 2021, and Mr. Miller should ensure sufficient National Guard or Soldiers would be there to make sure it was a safe event. Gen Milley told us that Mr. Miller responded, ‘We’ve got a plan and we’ve got it covered.'”
Circling back to this:

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kalm wrote: Tue Jul 26, 2022 5:42 pm
BDKJMU wrote: Mon Jul 25, 2022 1:27 pm

Circling back to this:

Would he have been allowed to order troops to be at the ready under the Posse Comitatus Act?
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The DC National Guard is an exception
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Lol. Grifters gonna grift. Bet she ends up at the Lincoln Project.

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Baldy wrote: Tue Aug 02, 2022 6:54 am Lol. Grifters gonna grift. Bet she ends up at the Lincoln Project.

You mean to tell me a Trump loyalist continued to grift?

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kalm wrote: Tue Aug 02, 2022 7:07 am
Baldy wrote: Tue Aug 02, 2022 6:54 am Lol. Grifters gonna grift. Bet she ends up at the Lincoln Project.

You mean to tell me a Trump loyalist continued to grift?

:shock:
Trump loyalist?

I thought she was a "principled conservative" now. :lol:
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Baldy wrote: Tue Aug 02, 2022 8:17 am
kalm wrote: Tue Aug 02, 2022 7:07 am

You mean to tell me a Trump loyalist continued to grift?

:shock:
Trump loyalist?

I thought she was a "principled conservative" now. :lol:
Cheney, Kinzinger, never Trumpers, etc. Hutchinson did the right thing in this moment when forced to.
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kalm wrote: Tue Aug 02, 2022 8:28 am
Baldy wrote: Tue Aug 02, 2022 8:17 am
Trump loyalist?

I thought she was a "principled conservative" now. :lol:
Cheney, Kinzinger, never Trumpers, etc. Hutchinson did the right thing in this moment when forced to.
That was fast. She went from Trump loyalist to never Trumper in two posts.
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AZGrizFan wrote: Tue Aug 02, 2022 8:44 am
kalm wrote: Tue Aug 02, 2022 8:28 am

Cheney, Kinzinger, never Trumpers, etc. Hutchinson did the right thing in this moment when forced to.
That was fast. She went from Trump loyalist to never Trumper in two posts.
I wasn’t saying she’s a never trumper or that she’s a principled conservative. She made the right choice in this instance that is all.
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kalm wrote: Tue Aug 02, 2022 9:18 am
AZGrizFan wrote: Tue Aug 02, 2022 8:44 am

That was fast. She went from Trump loyalist to never Trumper in two posts.
I wasn’t saying she’s a never trumper or that she’s a principled conservative. She made the right choice in this instance that is all.
Is lying to Congress under oath really the right choice? :suspicious:
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UNI88 wrote: Tue Jul 26, 2022 6:02 pm
kalm wrote: Tue Jul 26, 2022 5:42 pm

Circling back to this:

Would he have been allowed to order troops to be at the ready under the Posse Comitatus Act?
Don't know, but I couldn't help noticing they didn't have any problem being ready when they thought the BLM crowd was coming :coffee:
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Baldy wrote: Tue Aug 02, 2022 10:05 am
kalm wrote: Tue Aug 02, 2022 9:18 am

I wasn’t saying she’s a never trumper or that she’s a principled conservative. She made the right choice in this instance that is all.
Is lying to Congress under oath really the right choice? :suspicious:
What did she lie about?
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kalm wrote: Tue Aug 02, 2022 11:42 am
Baldy wrote: Tue Aug 02, 2022 10:05 am
Is lying to Congress under oath really the right choice? :suspicious:
What did she lie about?
Well we’ll never know, i guess, because they wouldn’t call the 17 people who would have contradicted her story and destroyed the committee’s narrative.
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