Again, no different that the Donk position on the integrity of our elections and the 'threat to democracy'.
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How does she feel about trump? Based on his endorsements, he values loyalty over winning/control of the Senate.
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Yeah…anyways…it’s not really about abortion is it?
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Just like its not really about integrity or being a threat to democracy.
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The left trying to Kavanaugh Walker right before an election.
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Abortion and character is really not all that important to donors. Not that ever really was.
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FYP
Who lacks character?
- Walker if it's true?
- The Left if it isn't?
- The extremists on either side who automatically believe one side without question?
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Notice I wasn’t partisan in my post. The topic just happens to be about Walker, a Republican. Moderate Dem donors who contributed to Hillary or Gavin Newsome or Pelosi can be considered guilty of the same.
Is there a safe place “both sides do it” guys can go to in challenging times such as these?
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It's not just Moderate Dem donors. You're attempting to limit the discussion to focus attention on moderate donors when extremist voters are just as guilty of overlooking their sides' skeletons while complaining about the other sides. People who support Warren and Bernie are hypocrites just like people who support Walker.kalm wrote: ↑Fri Oct 07, 2022 8:49 amNotice I wasn’t partisan in my post. The topic just happens to be about Walker, a Republican. Moderate Dem donors who contributed to Hillary or Gavin Newsome or Pelosi can be considered guilty of the same.
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It’s funny the examples of extremist are Bernie and Warren. especially in light of the abortion issue.UNI88 wrote: ↑Fri Oct 07, 2022 10:20 amIt's not just Moderate Dem donors. You're attempting to limit the discussion to focus attention on moderate donors when extremist voters are just as guilty of overlooking their sides' skeletons while complaining about the other sides. People who support Warren and Bernie are hypocrites just like people who support Walker.kalm wrote: ↑Fri Oct 07, 2022 8:49 am
Notice I wasn’t partisan in my post. The topic just happens to be about Walker, a Republican. Moderate Dem donors who contributed to Hillary or Gavin Newsome or Pelosi can be considered guilty of the same.
Is there a safe place “both sides do it” guys can go to in challenging times such as these?
They’d both be moderates in Europe. But to American “moderates” they’re the evil love child of Camille Paglia and Che.
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Progressives give Warren a pass for lying about her heritage because winning is a greater virtue than character to them too. Bernie is a hypocrite who has made millions capitalizing on the notoriety that he's gained as an elected official while criticizing those who made millions creating and producing products and services that actually improve lives. The people who support them are either hypocrites or fools who don't see through their BS.kalm wrote: ↑Fri Oct 07, 2022 11:54 amIt’s funny the examples of extremist are Bernie and Warren. especially in light of the abortion issue.UNI88 wrote: ↑Fri Oct 07, 2022 10:20 am
It's not just Moderate Dem donors. You're attempting to limit the discussion to focus attention on moderate donors when extremist voters are just as guilty of overlooking their sides' skeletons while complaining about the other sides. People who support Warren and Bernie are hypocrites just like people who support Walker.
They’d both be moderates in Europe. But to American “moderates” they’re the evil love child of Camille Paglia and Che.
We don't live in Europe. Even if we did, Bernie and Warren want the government to control the means of production & distribution and that is not a "moderate" European perspective. Nordic and other European countries are not socialist, they have capitalist markets that fund strong social programs. Bernie and Warren don't trust private enterprise and think government can do a better job despite mountains of evidence that they're wrong. Their supporters are just as pathetically delusional as trump supporters.
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Show me where in their own words either have advocated for complete government control of the means of production and distribution.UNI88 wrote: ↑Fri Oct 07, 2022 12:09 pmProgressives give Warren a pass for lying about her heritage because winning is a greater virtue than character to them too. Bernie is a hypocrite who has made millions capitalizing on the notoriety that he's gained as an elected official while criticizing those who made millions creating and producing products and services that actually improve lives. The people who support them are either hypocrites or fools who don't see through their BS.
We don't live in Europe. Even if we did, Bernie and Warren want the government to control the means of production & distribution and that is not a "moderate" European perspective. Nordic and other European countries are not socialist, they have capitalist markets that fund strong social programs. Bernie and Warren don't trust private enterprise and think government can do a better job despite mountains of evidence that they're wrong. Their supporters are just as pathetically delusional as trump supporters.
We have a mixed economy and a large population. The argument should be the degree of socialized programs. Every large country has them including ours which many Republicans take full and willing advantage of. Big oil? Bunch of socialists. Big Ag? Commies.
There has to be right wing capitalist safe place out there for you somewhere. Or at least a fainting couch.
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They are extremists.kalm wrote: ↑Fri Oct 07, 2022 11:54 amIt’s funny the examples of extremist are Bernie and Warren. especially in light of the abortion issue.UNI88 wrote: ↑Fri Oct 07, 2022 10:20 am
It's not just Moderate Dem donors. You're attempting to limit the discussion to focus attention on moderate donors when extremist voters are just as guilty of overlooking their sides' skeletons while complaining about the other sides. People who support Warren and Bernie are hypocrites just like people who support Walker.
They’d both be moderates in Europe. But to American “moderates” they’re the evil love child of Camille Paglia and Che.
This is America, not Europe. If we wanted to be as fucked up as Europe, we’d have stayed a colony.
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Collecting tax dollars, and then doling it back out in the form of government funded projects, is nothing even remotely close to “socialism”.
Try harder.
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Tell that to the socialist conservative Republican legislators who labeled it as such.
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well I can't help it if they don't understand the concept either.
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Bernie is a socialist. It's literally in the name of his ideological belief. Warren is a little more subtle but the clues/proof that she is a socialist are significantly stronger than the clues/proof that trump is a fascist but you'll regurgitate that argument every chance you get.kalm wrote: ↑Fri Oct 07, 2022 12:37 pmShow me where in their own words either have advocated for complete government control of the means of production and distribution.UNI88 wrote: ↑Fri Oct 07, 2022 12:09 pm
Progressives give Warren a pass for lying about her heritage because winning is a greater virtue than character to them too. Bernie is a hypocrite who has made millions capitalizing on the notoriety that he's gained as an elected official while criticizing those who made millions creating and producing products and services that actually improve lives. The people who support them are either hypocrites or fools who don't see through their BS.
We don't live in Europe. Even if we did, Bernie and Warren want the government to control the means of production & distribution and that is not a "moderate" European perspective. Nordic and other European countries are not socialist, they have capitalist markets that fund strong social programs. Bernie and Warren don't trust private enterprise and think government can do a better job despite mountains of evidence that they're wrong. Their supporters are just as pathetically delusional as trump supporters.
We have a mixed economy and a large population. The argument should be the degree of socialized programs. Every large country has them including ours which many Republicans take full and willing advantage of. Big oil? Bunch of socialists. Big Ag? Commies.
There has to be right wing capitalist safe place out there for you somewhere. Or at least a fainting couch.
I am willing to sit down and debate what social welfare programs we should have, how much we should spend on them and how long they should be available.
I don't consider myself right wing and I don't need a safe place or a fainting couch. You're just upset that you've lost all claim to your post-partisan title.
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Social programs <> socialismUNI88 wrote: ↑Fri Oct 07, 2022 3:43 pmBernie is a socialist. It's literally in the name of his ideological belief. Warren is a little more subtle but the clues/proof that she is a socialist are significantly stronger than the clues/proof that trump is a fascist but you'll regurgitate that argument every chance you get.kalm wrote: ↑Fri Oct 07, 2022 12:37 pm
Show me where in their own words either have advocated for complete government control of the means of production and distribution.
We have a mixed economy and a large population. The argument should be the degree of socialized programs. Every large country has them including ours which many Republicans take full and willing advantage of. Big oil? Bunch of socialists. Big Ag? Commies.
There has to be right wing capitalist safe place out there for you somewhere. Or at least a fainting couch.
I am willing to sit down and debate what social welfare programs we should have, how much we should spend on them and how long they should be available.
I don't consider myself right wing and I don't need a safe place or a fainting couch. You're just upset that you've lost all claim to your post-partisan title.
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Well the majority of the ‘infrastructure’ bill wasn’t about infrastructure.
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nah conks just need to get better at playing by their rules.
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Excellent post.UNI88 wrote: ↑Fri Oct 07, 2022 12:09 pmProgressives give Warren a pass for lying about her heritage because winning is a greater virtue than character to them too. Bernie is a hypocrite who has made millions capitalizing on the notoriety that he's gained as an elected official while criticizing those who made millions creating and producing products and services that actually improve lives. The people who support them are either hypocrites or fools who don't see through their BS.
We don't live in Europe. Even if we did, Bernie and Warren want the government to control the means of production & distribution and that is not a "moderate" European perspective. Nordic and other European countries are not socialist, they have capitalist markets that fund strong social programs. Bernie and Warren don't trust private enterprise and think government can do a better job despite mountains of evidence that they're wrong. Their supporters are just as pathetically delusional as trump supporters.