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Is this where everyone forgets what their stance is on corporate free speech and corporate taxes?

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Disney done fucked up this one. This is gonna end up costing them a fortune.

AZGrizFan wrote: ↑Thu Apr 21, 2022 7:22 pm Disney done fucked up this one. This is gonna end up costing them a fortune.

Exacerbated by how much they will spend against DeSantis in campaign funding.

Pwns wrote: ↑Thu Apr 21, 2022 7:05 pm

Is this where everyone forgets what their stance is on corporate free speech and corporate taxes?

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Is this where Republicans go after companies that have a difference of opinion? Doesn't seem very smart considering that Disney donates mostly to Republicans and doing this will saddle those two counties, and it's citizens, with massive debt. Also - it's nice to seethe Florida Republicans bring this up for debate on the floor....oh wait. They didn't.

The idea of teaching K-3 about sex, gender, etc.. is unnecessary and 100% politically motivated.

Ibanez wrote: ↑Fri Apr 22, 2022 7:48 am

Pwns wrote: ↑Thu Apr 21, 2022 7:05 pm

Is this where everyone forgets what their stance is on corporate free speech and corporate taxes?

Pass the Popcorn!

Is this where Republicans go after companies that have a difference of opinion? Doesn't seem very smart considering that Disney donates mostly to Republicans and doing this will saddle those two counties, and it's citizens, with massive debt. Also - it's nice to seethe Florida Republicans bring this up for debate on the floor....oh wait. They didn't.

The idea of teaching K-3 about sex, gender, etc.. is unnecessary and 100% politically motivated.

It was also not very smart of Disney to say that they would just fund the campaigns of those that will vote the way they want them to vote.

All they (Disney) had to do was keep their mouth shut, especially when they just got busted for having multiple people involved in human trafficking and child related offenders. As a corporation, one should strive to remain neutral as the breaks you have lobbied for and received can just as easily be taken away.

And for the record I am against any public funding of private business ventures like stadiums and theme parks. There is plenty of blame to be spread around for both parties.

The speed we went from Citizens United to Woke Capitalism is breath taking.

Bob Chapek tried his best to keep Disney outta this mess, but the media, Bob Iger, and left-wing activists inside the company had other plans.

Baldy wrote: ↑Fri Apr 22, 2022 9:01 am The speed we went from Citizens United to Woke Capitalism is breath taking.

Bob Chapek tried his best to keep Disney outta this mess, but the media, Bob Iger, and left-wing activists inside the company had other plans.

True. And in this case DeSantis is clearly woke.

kalm wrote: ↑Fri Apr 22, 2022 9:27 am

Baldy wrote: ↑Fri Apr 22, 2022 9:01 am The speed we went from Citizens United to Woke Capitalism is breath taking.

Bob Chapek tried his best to keep Disney outta this mess, but the media, Bob Iger, and left-wing activists inside the company had other plans.

True. And in this case DeSantis is clearly woke.

How?

Winterborn wrote: ↑Fri Apr 22, 2022 8:43 am

Ibanez wrote: ↑Fri Apr 22, 2022 7:48 am

Is this where Republicans go after companies that have a difference of opinion? Doesn't seem very smart considering that Disney donates mostly to Republicans and doing this will saddle those two counties, and it's citizens, with massive debt. Also - it's nice to seethe Florida Republicans bring this up for debate on the floor....oh wait. They didn't.

The idea of teaching K-3 about sex, gender, etc.. is unnecessary and 100% politically motivated.

It was also not very smart of Disney to say that they would just fund the campaigns of those that will vote the way they want them to vote.

All they (Disney) had to do was keep their mouth shut, especially when they just got busted for having multiple people involved in human trafficking and child related offenders. As a corporation, one should strive to remain neutral as the breaks you have lobbied for and received can just as easily be taken away.

And for the record I am against any public funding of private business ventures like stadiums and theme parks. There is plenty of blame to be spread around for both parties.

I think you're right. Any politician, Democrat or Republican, going after a company for voicing an opinion is a dangerous and short sighted activity, especially when it's the top employer in your state (but honestly - they're not packing Epcot and moving it to Colorado). Don't like Disney's stance on something, don't give them your patronage.

All companies should stay neutral - you're in the business of entertainment, transportation, baking, etc... not political opinion. Unfortunately, the democrats and their kowtowing to extremist and minority groups FORCE companies to take a stand (and the Republicans are guilty of this as well).


You'd be interested to know that there's a bill being proposed, “No Tax Subsidies for Stadiums Act of 2022"

Baldy wrote: ↑Fri Apr 22, 2022 10:00 am

kalm wrote: ↑Fri Apr 22, 2022 9:27 am

True. And in this case DeSantis is clearly woke.

How?

Exacting revenge b/c someone said something he didn't like

Baldy wrote: ↑Fri Apr 22, 2022 10:00 am

kalm wrote: ↑Fri Apr 22, 2022 9:27 am

True. And in this case DeSantis is clearly woke.

How?

Culture warrior.

Ibanez wrote: ↑Fri Apr 22, 2022 11:09 am

Baldy wrote: ↑Fri Apr 22, 2022 10:00 am
How?

Exacting revenge b/c someone said something he didn't like

"someone said something"

Thanks, Ilhan.

kalm wrote: ↑Fri Apr 22, 2022 11:09 am

Baldy wrote: ↑Fri Apr 22, 2022 10:00 am
How?

Culture warrior.

I guess he should turn the other cheek, like a good Christian.

Baldy wrote: ↑Fri Apr 22, 2022 11:15 am

kalm wrote: ↑Fri Apr 22, 2022 11:09 am

Culture warrior.

I guess he should turn the other cheek, like a good Christian.

Well if the schtick fits…

I just want to know why DeSantis opposes freedom of expression.

Is he going to go after the Citizens United decision next? Is he trying to gain Kalm's support?

Huge win for DeSantis. Another example of why he needs to be the conk nominee in '24.

Edit, way more examples:

UNI88 wrote: ↑Fri Apr 22, 2022 12:26 pm I just want to know why DeSantis opposes freedom of expression.

Is he going to go after the Citizens United decision next? Is he trying to gain Kalm's support?

Naw, the people claiming the "freedom of expression" defense are crickets when it's a right leaning company/media outlet that is targeted. Conks need to take this example and run with it. This is how you win.

Ibanez wrote: ↑Fri Apr 22, 2022 7:48 am

Pwns wrote: ↑Thu Apr 21, 2022 7:05 pm

Is this where everyone forgets what their stance is on corporate free speech and corporate taxes?

Pass the Popcorn!

Is this where Republicans go after companies that have a difference of opinion? Doesn't seem very smart considering that Disney donates mostly to Republicans and doing this will saddle those two counties, and it's citizens, with massive debt. Also - it's nice to seethe Florida Republicans bring this up for debate on the floor....oh wait. They didn't.

The idea of teaching K-3 about sex, gender, etc.. is unnecessary and 100% politically motivated.

-Disney started the fight
-They did more than voice their opinion- they pledged to fight the bill.
-When that difference of opinion is sexualizing small children they should be gone after..

kalm wrote: ↑Fri Apr 22, 2022 12:23 pm

Baldy wrote: ↑Fri Apr 22, 2022 11:15 am
I guess he should turn the other cheek, like a good Christian.

Well if the schtick fits…

Look on the bright side, Disney will now have to start paying their fair share.

Baldy wrote: ↑Sat Apr 23, 2022 3:45 am

kalm wrote: ↑Fri Apr 22, 2022 12:23 pm

Well if the schtick fits…

Look on the bright side, Disney will now have to start paying their fair share.

True.

Baldy wrote: ↑Fri Apr 22, 2022 9:01 am The speed we went from Citizens United to Woke Capitalism is breath taking.

Bob Chapek tried his best to keep Disney outta this mess, but the media, Bob Iger, and left-wing activists inside the company had other plans.

Chapek could have grown a pair and not made his woke speech and comments.

SDHornet wrote:

UNI88 wrote: ↑Fri Apr 22, 2022 12:26 pm I just want to know why DeSantis opposes freedom of expression.

Is he going to go after the Citizens United decision next? Is he trying to gain Kalm's support?

Naw, the people claiming the "freedom of expression" defense are crickets when it's a right leaning company/media outlet that is targeted. Conks need to take this example and run with it. This is how you win.

And vice versa.

"They did it first" is a crappy and childish excuse.

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UNI88 wrote: ↑Sat Apr 23, 2022 7:50 am

SDHornet wrote:
Naw, the people claiming the "freedom of expression" defense are crickets when it's a right leaning company/media outlet that is targeted. Conks need to take this example and run with it. This is how you win.

And vice versa.

"They did it first" is a crappy and childish excuse.

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It is, but that's not my argument. We've seen how far the neo-Marxists want to take it when they have control. At this point it's just self preservation. Pushing your agenda as far as you can when the pendulum swings in your favor is now the name of the game. Anyone who doesn't recognize this has a loser mentality. I don't like it any more than you do, but these are the rules now.

SDHornet wrote:

UNI88 wrote: ↑Sat Apr 23, 2022 7:50 am And vice versa.

"They did it first" is a crappy and childish excuse.

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It is, but that's not my argument. We've seen how far the neo-Marxists want to take it when they have control. At this point it's just self preservation. Pushing your agenda as far as you can when the pendulum swings in your favor is now the name of the game. Anyone who doesn't recognize this has a loser mentality. I don't like it any more than you do, but these are the rules now.

I'd rather be a loser with scruples than a winner without.

Maybe someday character and integrity will be back in fashion but until then I'll try and fight the good fight regardless of how imperfect I am.

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UNI88 wrote: ↑Sat Apr 23, 2022 9:08 pm

SDHornet wrote:
It is, but that's not my argument. We've seen how far the neo-Marxists want to take it when they have control. At this point it's just self preservation. Pushing your agenda as far as you can when the pendulum swings in your favor is now the name of the game. Anyone who doesn't recognize this has a loser mentality. I don't like it any more than you do, but these are the rules now.

I'd rather be a loser with scruples than a winner without.

Maybe someday character and integrity will be back in fashion but until then I'll try and fight the good fight regardless of how imperfect I am.

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One side is literally after the kids. Family is worth fighting for...at all costs...