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Student Debt Forgiveness

Posted: Sat Apr 30, 2022 11:45 am
by SeattleGriz
Started a new thread because it seems like forgiving 10K in debt has some legs with the Zhou Biden regime.

I like this idea from Ron DeSantis. If we forgive college debt, make the schools eat it. Not fair that 60% of the college debt is due to Graduate studies and they plan on making taxpayers eat this? We all know this is simply to appease and gain votes before the election.


Re: Student Debt Forgiveness

Posted: Sat Apr 30, 2022 12:05 pm
by AZGrizFan
I like the idea of people paying them off that fucking took out the loans.

Re: Student Debt Forgiveness

Posted: Sat Apr 30, 2022 1:41 pm
by SeattleGriz
AZGrizFan wrote: Sat Apr 30, 2022 12:05 pm I like the idea of people paying them off that fucking took out the loans.
I do too. I didn't join the Army Reserves and work in a bike shop while in school for nothing. It was to pay for my own education. I was on my own at 17 and graduated debt free.

But IF they are going to forgive anything, then make the schools pay for the worthless education they provided.

Re: Student Debt Forgiveness

Posted: Sat Apr 30, 2022 2:31 pm
by BDKJMU
Saw something about how this mostly benefits upper middle class whites.

Re: Student Debt Forgiveness

Posted: Sat Apr 30, 2022 2:54 pm
by kalm
SeattleGriz wrote: Sat Apr 30, 2022 11:45 am Started a new thread because it seems like forgiving 10K in debt has some legs with the Zhou Biden regime.

I like this idea from Ron DeSantis. If we forgive college debt, make the schools eat it. Not fair that 60% of the college debt is due to Graduate studies and they plan on making taxpayers eat this? We all know this is simply to appease and gain votes before the election.

Yeah! Fuck the truck drivers!

Re: Student Debt Forgiveness

Posted: Sat Apr 30, 2022 3:21 pm
by AZGrizFan
kalm wrote: Sat Apr 30, 2022 2:54 pm
SeattleGriz wrote: Sat Apr 30, 2022 11:45 am Started a new thread because it seems like forgiving 10K in debt has some legs with the Zhou Biden regime.

I like this idea from Ron DeSantis. If we forgive college debt, make the schools eat it. Not fair that 60% of the college debt is due to Graduate studies and they plan on making taxpayers eat this? We all know this is simply to appease and gain votes before the election.

Yeah! Fuck the truck drivers!
Punctuation is important.

Re: Student Debt Forgiveness

Posted: Sat Apr 30, 2022 5:19 pm
by UNI88
kalm wrote: Sat Apr 30, 2022 2:54 pm
SeattleGriz wrote: Sat Apr 30, 2022 11:45 am Started a new thread because it seems like forgiving 10K in debt has some legs with the Zhou Biden regime.

I like this idea from Ron DeSantis. If we forgive college debt, make the schools eat it. Not fair that 60% of the college debt is due to Graduate studies and they plan on making taxpayers eat this? We all know this is simply to appease and gain votes before the election.

Yeah! Fuck the truck drivers!
This is a serious discussion, please leave your personal fantasies out of it ... :D

Re: Student Debt Forgiveness

Posted: Sat Apr 30, 2022 5:46 pm
by kalm
UNI88 wrote: Sat Apr 30, 2022 5:19 pm
kalm wrote: Sat Apr 30, 2022 2:54 pm

Yeah! Fuck the truck drivers!
This is a serious discussion, please leave your personal fantasies out of it ... :D
I’m tired of your sexism/toxic masculinity!

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Re: Student Debt Forgiveness

Posted: Sat Apr 30, 2022 6:44 pm
by kalm
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Re: Student Debt Forgiveness

Posted: Sat Apr 30, 2022 9:32 pm
by SeattleGriz
kalm wrote: Sat Apr 30, 2022 2:54 pm
SeattleGriz wrote: Sat Apr 30, 2022 11:45 am Started a new thread because it seems like forgiving 10K in debt has some legs with the Zhou Biden regime.

I like this idea from Ron DeSantis. If we forgive college debt, make the schools eat it. Not fair that 60% of the college debt is due to Graduate studies and they plan on making taxpayers eat this? We all know this is simply to appease and gain votes before the election.

Yeah! Fuck the truck drivers!
OMG. It took me about six hours to process this joke. Then it hit me. :thumb: :nod:

Re: Student Debt Forgiveness

Posted: Sun May 01, 2022 9:48 am
by kalm
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Re: Student Debt Forgiveness

Posted: Mon May 02, 2022 5:43 am
by Ibanez
BDKJMU wrote: Sat Apr 30, 2022 2:31 pm Saw something about how this mostly benefits upper middle class whites.
I think that's why there's going to be an income cap, like $125k so fewer doctors and lawyers are benefitting.

Re: Student Debt Forgiveness

Posted: Mon May 02, 2022 5:45 am
by Ibanez
SeattleGriz wrote: Sat Apr 30, 2022 11:45 am Started a new thread because it seems like forgiving 10K in debt has some legs with the Zhou Biden regime.

I like this idea from Ron DeSantis. If we forgive college debt, make the schools eat it. Not fair that 60% of the college debt is due to Graduate studies and they plan on making taxpayers eat this? We all know this is simply to appease and gain votes before the election.

That's not a bad idea. Make the universities accountable.

Re: Student Debt Forgiveness

Posted: Mon May 02, 2022 6:20 am
by AZGrizFan
Ibanez wrote: Mon May 02, 2022 5:43 am
BDKJMU wrote: Sat Apr 30, 2022 2:31 pm Saw something about how this mostly benefits upper middle class whites.
I think that's why there's going to be an income cap, like $125k so fewer doctors and lawyers are benefitting.
Someone who makes $125,000 a year can afford to pay back their loans. That’s fucking lunacy.

Re: Student Debt Forgiveness

Posted: Tue May 03, 2022 4:35 am
by Winterborn
kalm wrote: Sat Apr 30, 2022 5:46 pm
UNI88 wrote: Sat Apr 30, 2022 5:19 pm

This is a serious discussion, please leave your personal fantasies out of it ... :D
I’m tired of your sexism/toxic masculinity!

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Never seen a lot lizard look like that. Normally they are like this.

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Re: Student Debt Forgiveness

Posted: Tue May 03, 2022 4:41 am
by Winterborn
AZGrizFan wrote: Mon May 02, 2022 6:20 am
Ibanez wrote: Mon May 02, 2022 5:43 am

I think that's why there's going to be an income cap, like $125k so fewer doctors and lawyers are benefitting.
Someone who makes $125,000 a year can afford to pay back their loans. That’s fucking lunacy.
I paid mine (BS Engineering and MBA) back making $65k a year.

Somebody making $125k a year has zero excuse. You take out the loans, you pay back the loans.

The government wanted everybody to go to college, colleges took advantage of the cheap money to expand, and like a typical government largess program the taxpayer takes it in the shorts once again.

Re: Student Debt Forgiveness

Posted: Tue May 03, 2022 4:51 am
by houndawg
kalm wrote: Sat Apr 30, 2022 6:44 pm Image
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Re: Student Debt Forgiveness

Posted: Tue May 03, 2022 4:52 am
by houndawg
AZGrizFan wrote: Mon May 02, 2022 6:20 am
Ibanez wrote: Mon May 02, 2022 5:43 am

I think that's why there's going to be an income cap, like $125k so fewer doctors and lawyers are benefitting.
Someone who makes $125,000 a year can afford to pay back their loans. That’s fucking lunacy.
No shit, they could at least give more tax breaks to help out struggling bidnizmen like Bezos and Gates :coffee:

Re: Student Debt Forgiveness

Posted: Tue May 03, 2022 6:03 am
by kalm
Winterborn wrote: Tue May 03, 2022 4:41 am
AZGrizFan wrote: Mon May 02, 2022 6:20 am

Someone who makes $125,000 a year can afford to pay back their loans. That’s fucking lunacy.
I paid mine (BS Engineering and MBA) back making $65k a year.

Somebody making $125k a year has zero excuse. You take out the loans, you pay back the loans.

The government wanted everybody to go to college, colleges took advantage of the cheap money to expand, and like a typical government largess program the taxpayer takes it in the shorts once again.
You are disciplined, without kids, and live in a relatively low COL area (I’m guessing?).

I have close friends, both who make 6 figures. Humble house, average vehicles, far from extravagant lifestyle, but two kids. Both payed loans well into their 40’s.

I’d say you are the outlier.

Like I said before, a consumer based economy is supported by them spending every dime rather than being disciplined and single like you.

Re: Student Debt Forgiveness

Posted: Tue May 03, 2022 6:04 am
by kalm
Winterborn wrote: Tue May 03, 2022 4:35 am
kalm wrote: Sat Apr 30, 2022 5:46 pm

I’m tired of your sexism/toxic masculinity!

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Never seen a lot lizard look like that. Normally they are like this.

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You’d still hit it… :kisswink:

Re: Student Debt Forgiveness

Posted: Tue May 03, 2022 6:21 am
by houndawg
Winterborn wrote: Tue May 03, 2022 4:41 am
AZGrizFan wrote: Mon May 02, 2022 6:20 am

Someone who makes $125,000 a year can afford to pay back their loans. That’s fucking lunacy.
I paid mine (BS Engineering and MBA) back making $65k a year.

Somebody making $125k a year has zero excuse. You take out the loans, you pay back the loans.

The government wanted everybody to go to college, colleges took advantage of the cheap money to expand, and like a typical government largess program the taxpayer takes it in the shorts once again.
You're very fortunate that women don't want to have your babies :coffee:

Re: Student Debt Forgiveness

Posted: Tue May 03, 2022 7:25 am
by Winterborn
kalm wrote: Tue May 03, 2022 6:03 am
Winterborn wrote: Tue May 03, 2022 4:41 am

I paid mine (BS Engineering and MBA) back making $65k a year.

Somebody making $125k a year has zero excuse. You take out the loans, you pay back the loans.

The government wanted everybody to go to college, colleges took advantage of the cheap money to expand, and like a typical government largess program the taxpayer takes it in the shorts once again.
You are disciplined, without kids, and live in a relatively low COL area (I’m guessing?).

I have close friends, both who make 6 figures. Humble house, average vehicles, far from extravagant lifestyle, but two kids. Both payed loans well into their 40’s.

I’d say you are the outlier.

Like I said before, a consumer based economy is supported by them spending every dime rather than being disciplined and single like you.

I also worked two jobs and never ate out, nor drank at all. Drove a vehicle that was older than me and lived in a very cheap apartment (not a nice area). My area's COL at the time was comparable to your area (looked this up multiple times when job hunting).

My dad did something similar but had a family (4 kids) on a $50k a year job and graduated with a 2 year degree with zero debt. I know multiple people with families (2 kids average) with similar circumstances and both parents loans were paid off by mid to late 30's.

And I am far from an outlier around here, just because we have a consumer economy does not mean one has to follow that. Nobody is holding a gun to their head and saying "you must spend your money and not pay back your loans". We all have a choice.

Do some people need help, sure, most do not and life isn't a bed of roses. Some choices have lasting repercussions.

Guess making responsible decisions means that I should be punished by the democratic party. And in that respect I hope they do forgive $10k in student loans, as in a year or so, they will need to do the same again as the only thing they are doing is rewarding bad behavior (student and college). And for those that paid their loans by their own choice, this will just cement more resentment and drive a bigger wedge in some voters.

Re: Student Debt Forgiveness

Posted: Tue May 03, 2022 7:27 am
by Winterborn
kalm wrote: Tue May 03, 2022 6:04 am
Winterborn wrote: Tue May 03, 2022 4:35 am

Never seen a lot lizard look like that. Normally they are like this.

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You’d still hit it… :kisswink:
I drove a Peterbuilt. :kisswink: Kenworth folks are like the inbred Kentucky hillbillies......

Re: Student Debt Forgiveness

Posted: Tue May 03, 2022 7:32 am
by BDKJMU
Winterborn wrote: Tue May 03, 2022 7:27 am
kalm wrote: Tue May 03, 2022 6:04 am

You’d still hit it… :kisswink:
I drove a Peterbuilt. :kisswink: Kenworth folks are like the inbred Kentucky hillbillies......
So what about the Volvo folks?

Re: Student Debt Forgiveness

Posted: Tue May 03, 2022 7:36 am
by Winterborn
BDKJMU wrote: Tue May 03, 2022 7:32 am
Winterborn wrote: Tue May 03, 2022 7:27 am

I drove a Peterbuilt. :kisswink: Kenworth folks are like the inbred Kentucky hillbillies......
So what about the Volvo folks?
Those are the Euro version of the above.