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LEO response taking heat now, and rightfully so. Saw a headline about 12 minutes for the police scanner recording being missing/deleted. Some parents that went to the school to get their kids were detained by cops. The plot twist is now shifting to LEO incompetence similar to Parkland.
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Yep, the the notion Kalm espoused that Reagan started the deinstitutionalizing is complete amd utter nonsense..Baldy wrote: ↑Wed May 25, 2022 11:34 pmYour hard-on of hate for Reagan aside, you are completely wrong. The deinstitutionalizing of the mentally ill started long before he became governor or president. Cali started emptying the asylums back in the 1950's, and on a Federal level, it started in the Eisenhower administration and was ramped up during Kennedy and Johnson. The solutions were drug regimens and the move to community based treatment centers. Court decisions around that time also took many of the commitment powers away from state and local officials.kalm wrote: ↑Wed May 25, 2022 7:15 pm
Ummmm…Saint Reagan was largely responsible for deinstitutionalizing the mentally ill both as governor and President. On account of psychiatry might lead to communism or something.
Similar to ripping Carter’s solar panels off the White House, old Ronnie quickly dispatched Carter’s new policy of enhancing mental health care.
It was a failure of government on so many levels.
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Can we have mandatory political science education before people vote?
Please help me on the “more through background checks” statement…what is it exactly what you are looking for?
What “negligence” do you want stricter penalties on?
So, I should not believe the activists calling for elimination of the Second Amendment, calling for mandatory confiscation of weapons, etc…because they are all over Twitter, FaceBook, etc…
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You mean the guy that won't speak up against the Ughers in China? Yeah, let's listen to that guy.kalm wrote: ↑Thu May 26, 2022 12:17 pm Just got done with the Steve Kerr clip. He fucking nailed it.
Then I read this…
“Joe Garcia, the husband of Irma Garcia, one of two teachers shot and killed in Uvalde, TX on Tuesday, has reportedly suffered a fatal heart attack. Joe and Irma were high school sweethearts and married 24 years. They leave behind four children.”
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Fixed costs vs. variable costs. Fixed costs don't go away when the student goes to a private school.
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So. If what you claim is true, a telephone pole isn’t that thick, and its typicaly a softwood pine or cedar. Doesn’t change the fact that a .223/.556 isn’t a high powered rifle round compared to many others.houndawg wrote: ↑Thu May 26, 2022 6:57 amThe police on the scene were outgunned, SG. Just because the AR-15 is the participation trophy for those too weak or stupid for military service doesn't mean it isn't the best tool readily available to the public for killing large numbers of people in the shortest time. I hope they release pictures from the scene so that the public can get an idea of what these things do to a body. Given military ball ammo they will put a round through a telephone poll. I've seen it done. A security guard with a pistol has a vanishingly small chance against somebody with an AR. Good guy with a gun, my lily-white assSeattleGriz wrote: ↑Thu May 26, 2022 6:39 am Wanted to wait before I posted as what I was reading hadn't been confirmed. Seems this situation is similar to Florida in which the shooter was in the school for about 45 minutes with the police outside.
I don't know what the answer is in regards to police "storming" in the school, but this doesn't sound too good for police.
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They were gonna vote for his sorry ass anyways. All he did was piss off a whole lot of Texans yesterday.Ibanez wrote: ↑Thu May 26, 2022 3:30 pmYeah but that sort of crap wins him points with the hard left.AZGrizFan wrote:
Fox News reporting the door was left unlocked.
Fucking grifters showing up in droves. That POS Beta making an ass of himself at the press conference, Meghan fucking Markle showing up in Uvalde to “lay a wreath”, now Biden is gonna go stump for more gun control FROM Uvalde.
Fuck all these people. Fuck them all. But especially Beta. What a complete horse’s ass. I’m gonna go out on a limb and guess that he will NOT win that county (despite it being a dem county) in the next gubernatorial election. He pissed a whole lotta people off with that fucked up stunt.
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For referenceBDKJMU wrote: ↑Thu May 26, 2022 4:50 pmSo. If what you claim is true, a telephone pole isn’t that thick, and its typicaly a softwood pine or cedar. Doesn’t change the fact that a .223/.556 isn’t a high powered rifle round compared to many others.houndawg wrote: ↑Thu May 26, 2022 6:57 am
The police on the scene were outgunned, SG. Just because the AR-15 is the participation trophy for those too weak or stupid for military service doesn't mean it isn't the best tool readily available to the public for killing large numbers of people in the shortest time. I hope they release pictures from the scene so that the public can get an idea of what these things do to a body. Given military ball ammo they will put a round through a telephone poll. I've seen it done. A security guard with a pistol has a vanishingly small chance against somebody with an AR. Good guy with a gun, my lily-white ass
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Yeah, Floyd was weongly killed/murdered by the police, but that doesn’t change the fact that Floyd was a low life with a rap sheet a mile long, who once did a home invasion and stuck a pistol in the belly of a woman. What kind of sick people would memorialize a guy like that?
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Yep. Biden couldn’t be bothered to go to Waukesha. What a fucking tool.AZGrizFan wrote: ↑Thu May 26, 2022 3:26 pmFox News reporting the door was left unlocked.GannonFan wrote: ↑Thu May 26, 2022 1:57 pm
Like I said before, were kids or a gym class outside at this time and needed to get back in through that door? Although we've made schools more secure in the wake of Sandy Hook, they aren't fortresses either.
Amazing the amount of bad information out there in the first 24 hours. I realize it's a developing situation with a lot of people involved, but there's also been a large number of things reported that are now being revised or just flat out removed (for instance the first report that the armed guard on site fired at the gunman is apparently untrue and the gunman got into the building unopposed). Either the sources are having trouble communicating what happened (or are getting it wrong) or the media is reporting things without verifying or all of these.
Fucking grifters showing up in droves. That POS Beta making an ass of himself at the press conference, Meghan fucking Markle showing up in Uvalde to “lay a wreath”, now Biden is gonna go stump for more gun control FROM Uvalde.
Fuck all these people. Fuck them all. But especially Beta. What a complete horse’s ass. I’m gonna go out on a limb and guess that he will NOT win that county (despite it being a dem county) in the next gubernatorial election. He pissed a whole lotta people off with that fucked up stunt.
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They do in the LONG RUN. If say 10% of kids got vouchers to private on avg year after year, then you need 10% less public school teachers, 10% less public schools, etc.
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My .22 will shoot through TWO telephone poles!BDKJMU wrote: ↑Thu May 26, 2022 4:50 pmSo. If what you claim is true, a telephone pole isn’t that thick, and its typicaly a softwood pine or cedar. Doesn’t change the fact that a .223/.556 isn’t a high powered rifle round compared to many others.houndawg wrote: ↑Thu May 26, 2022 6:57 am
The police on the scene were outgunned, SG. Just because the AR-15 is the participation trophy for those too weak or stupid for military service doesn't mean it isn't the best tool readily available to the public for killing large numbers of people in the shortest time. I hope they release pictures from the scene so that the public can get an idea of what these things do to a body. Given military ball ammo they will put a round through a telephone poll. I've seen it done. A security guard with a pistol has a vanishingly small chance against somebody with an AR. Good guy with a gun, my lily-white ass
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And the guy that called for cops to be removed from schools in Oakland?SDHornet wrote: ↑Thu May 26, 2022 4:33 pmYou mean the guy that won't speak up against the Ughers in China? Yeah, let's listen to that guy.kalm wrote: ↑Thu May 26, 2022 12:17 pm Just got done with the Steve Kerr clip. He fucking nailed it.
Then I read this…
“Joe Garcia, the husband of Irma Garcia, one of two teachers shot and killed in Uvalde, TX on Tuesday, has reportedly suffered a fatal heart attack. Joe and Irma were high school sweethearts and married 24 years. They leave behind four children.”
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The little .22, .223/5.56 (AR-15 round), and 30.06 that your granddaddy shot out of his M1 Garand in WWII..
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Not just any.22, but Mini Mags.
Biggest gun I've shot was the 50 cal on full auto when going through basic training. Was a blast.
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The Ma-Deuce. Been in service for going on 90 years. Damn, I never got to shoot one of those at basic, AIT, or my time in the guard. Would be like shooting history. John Browning was the greatest firearms inventor this country has ever seen. Also produced the 1911, the BAR, the 1st semi auto shotgun, among many..SeattleGriz wrote: ↑Thu May 26, 2022 6:23 pmNot just any.22, but Mini Mags.
Biggest gun I've shot was the 50 cal on full auto when going through basic training. Was a blast.
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I used to personal train the owner of this company when I lived in Phoenix. He was a super nice guy and THE last guy you would expect to own the company.BDKJMU wrote: ↑Thu May 26, 2022 6:39 pmThe Ma-Deuce. Been in service for going on 90 years. Damn, I never got to shoot one of those at basic, AIT, or my time in the guard. Would be like shooting history. John Browning was the greatest firearms inventor this country has ever seen. Also produced the 1911, the BAR, the 1st semi auto shotgun, among many..SeattleGriz wrote: ↑Thu May 26, 2022 6:23 pm
Not just any.22, but Mini Mags.
Biggest gun I've shot was the 50 cal on full auto when going through basic training. Was a blast.
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Remember the below from an episode of Ultimate Weapons, Season 1, Sniper Rifles, 2009.SeattleGriz wrote: ↑Thu May 26, 2022 7:21 pmI used to personal train the owner of this company when I lived in Phoenix. He was a super nice guy and THE last guy you would expect to own the company.BDKJMU wrote: ↑Thu May 26, 2022 6:39 pm
The Ma-Deuce. Been in service for going on 90 years. Damn, I never got to shoot one of those at basic, AIT, or my time in the guard. Would be like shooting history. John Browning was the greatest firearms inventor this country has ever seen. Also produced the 1911, the BAR, the 1st semi auto shotgun, among many..
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525 E Pinnacle Peak Rd Ste 100
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What is your point? I do know that a 150 grain .308 Winchester fired from a Savage Model 99 didn't penetrate a telephone poleBDKJMU wrote: ↑Thu May 26, 2022 4:50 pmSo. If what you claim is true, a telephone pole isn’t that thick, and its typicaly a softwood pine or cedar. Doesn’t change the fact that a .223/.556 isn’t a high powered rifle round compared to many others.houndawg wrote: ↑Thu May 26, 2022 6:57 am
The police on the scene were outgunned, SG. Just because the AR-15 is the participation trophy for those too weak or stupid for military service doesn't mean it isn't the best tool readily available to the public for killing large numbers of people in the shortest time. I hope they release pictures from the scene so that the public can get an idea of what these things do to a body. Given military ball ammo they will put a round through a telephone poll. I've seen it done. A security guard with a pistol has a vanishingly small chance against somebody with an AR. Good guy with a gun, my lily-white ass
The kinetic energy imparted by any round is one half the quantity of its mass multiplied by the square of its velocity. The .223 is a very fast round and packs a wallop.
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My point is you’re full of shit implying tbat a .223/5.56 has more penetrating power than a .308. Plenty of info on the interwebs that says the opposite.houndawg wrote: ↑Thu May 26, 2022 8:26 pmWhat is your point? I do know that a 150 grain .308 Winchester fired from a Savage Model 99 didn't penetrate a telephone pole
The kinetic energy imparted by any round is one half the quantity of its mass multiplied by the square of its velocity. The .223 is a very fast round and packs a wallop.
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This thread is...strange. Read the entire thing.
There are some really sick fucks out there, and plenty of gullible blue checks who want to believe them..
There are some really sick fucks out there, and plenty of gullible blue checks who want to believe them..