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Violent Rhetoric

Posted: Fri Sep 23, 2022 10:59 am
by UNI88
Sen. Paul, conservatives warn of ‘violent consequences’ of Biden rhetoric following death of North Dakota teen
"Words can have violent consequences," Kentucky Republican Rand Paul, who was the victim of political violence along with his wife outside the Republican National Convention in 2020, told Fox News Digital in a statement. "President Biden needs to realize that his vilification of his opponents is inflaming some of his supporters to violence. As a victim of political violence, both sides need to recognize the consequences of heated rhetoric."

"An 18-year-old was executed in cold blood by a Democrat political terrorist because of rhetoric like this," Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene, R-Ga., claimed on Twitter along with a video of Biden calling Trump supporters "extreme." "Democrats want Republicans dead, and they’ve already started the killings. Democrat’s political war against patriotic Americans must end!"
I agree with Senator Paul on this one but have to point out the hypocrisy of not also calling out inflammatory rhetoric by Republicans.

Didn't MTG go on a hateful Twitter rant against Muslims? How many inflammatory things has she said, tweeted, etc? Her commenting on this is beyond ironic.

What did Lindsey Graham say about riots in the streets if trump is charged?

Re: Violent Rhetoric

Posted: Fri Sep 23, 2022 11:20 am
by kalm
UNI88 wrote: Fri Sep 23, 2022 10:59 am Sen. Paul, conservatives warn of ‘violent consequences’ of Biden rhetoric following death of North Dakota teen
"Words can have violent consequences," Kentucky Republican Rand Paul, who was the victim of political violence along with his wife outside the Republican National Convention in 2020, told Fox News Digital in a statement. "President Biden needs to realize that his vilification of his opponents is inflaming some of his supporters to violence. As a victim of political violence, both sides need to recognize the consequences of heated rhetoric."

"An 18-year-old was executed in cold blood by a Democrat political terrorist because of rhetoric like this," Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene, R-Ga., claimed on Twitter along with a video of Biden calling Trump supporters "extreme." "Democrats want Republicans dead, and they’ve already started the killings. Democrat’s political war against patriotic Americans must end!"
I agree with Senator Paul on this one but have to point out the hypocrisy of not also calling out inflammatory rhetoric by Republicans.

Didn't MTG go on a hateful Twitter rant against Muslims? How many inflammatory things has she said, tweeted, etc? Her commenting on this is beyond ironic.

What did Lindsey Graham say about riots in the streets if trump is charged?
Violence is wrong and that transcends ideology.

If Biden’s words regarding fascism hurt people that might call for a little introspection.


Re: Violent Rhetoric

Posted: Fri Sep 23, 2022 11:30 am
by UNI88
kalm wrote: Fri Sep 23, 2022 11:20 am
UNI88 wrote: Fri Sep 23, 2022 10:59 am Sen. Paul, conservatives warn of ‘violent consequences’ of Biden rhetoric following death of North Dakota teen

I agree with Senator Paul on this one but have to point out the hypocrisy of not also calling out inflammatory rhetoric by Republicans.

Didn't MTG go on a hateful Twitter rant against Muslims? How many inflammatory things has she said, tweeted, etc? Her commenting on this is beyond ironic.

What did Lindsey Graham say about riots in the streets if trump is charged?
Violence is wrong and that transcends ideology.

If Biden’s words regarding fascism hurt people that might call for a little introspection.

Then to paraphrase you:
- If MTG's words regarding Muslims hurt people that might call for a little introspection.
- If Graham's words regarding riots in the streets scared people that might also call for a little introspection.

:coffee:

Re: Violent Rhetoric

Posted: Fri Sep 23, 2022 11:36 am
by GannonFan
kalm wrote: Fri Sep 23, 2022 11:20 am
UNI88 wrote: Fri Sep 23, 2022 10:59 am Sen. Paul, conservatives warn of ‘violent consequences’ of Biden rhetoric following death of North Dakota teen



I agree with Senator Paul on this one but have to point out the hypocrisy of not also calling out inflammatory rhetoric by Republicans.

Didn't MTG go on a hateful Twitter rant against Muslims? How many inflammatory things has she said, tweeted, etc? Her commenting on this is beyond ironic.

What did Lindsey Graham say about riots in the streets if trump is charged?
Violence is wrong and that transcends ideology.

If Biden’s words regarding fascism hurt people that might call for a little introspection.

I don't think Biden calling people fascist caused any needles to move - Dems have been calling GOP nazis for decades now, starting with the original Hitler, George W himself. Of course, in retrospect, that looks absurd now (hint - it was also absurd then, but hey, go big or go home, right? If you're going to pillory your opponent, might as well go for the home run, no point just laying down a bunt). Poitical vitriol is just what we do anymore, I don't necessarily seeing that change anytime soon, no matter how many people are harmed.

Re: Violent Rhetoric

Posted: Fri Sep 23, 2022 11:41 am
by UNI88
kalm wrote: Fri Sep 23, 2022 11:20 am
UNI88 wrote: Fri Sep 23, 2022 10:59 am Sen. Paul, conservatives warn of ‘violent consequences’ of Biden rhetoric following death of North Dakota teen

I agree with Senator Paul on this one but have to point out the hypocrisy of not also calling out inflammatory rhetoric by Republicans.

Didn't MTG go on a hateful Twitter rant against Muslims? How many inflammatory things has she said, tweeted, etc? Her commenting on this is beyond ironic.

What did Lindsey Graham say about riots in the streets if trump is charged?
Violence is wrong and that transcends ideology.

If Biden’s words regarding fascism hurt people that might call for a little introspection.

To paraphrase you:
- If MTG's words regarding Muslims hurt people that might call for a little introspection.
- If Grahams words regarding riots in the streets scared people that might call for a little introspection.

Biden and extremist Democrats' belief in an omnipotent government are just as much of a threat to this country as MAGAt Republicans.

Both extremes are confident in righteousness of their cause and blind to the threat that they pose.

:coffee:

Re: Violent Rhetoric

Posted: Fri Sep 23, 2022 11:47 am
by GannonFan
UNI88 wrote: Fri Sep 23, 2022 11:41 am
kalm wrote: Fri Sep 23, 2022 11:20 am

Violence is wrong and that transcends ideology.

If Biden’s words regarding fascism hurt people that might call for a little introspection.

To paraphrase you:
- If MTG's words regarding Muslims hurt people that might call for a little introspection.
- If Grahams words regarding riots in the streets scared people that might call for a little introspection.

Biden and extremist Democrats' belief in an omnipotent government are just as much of a threat to this country as MAGAt Republicans.

Both extremes are confident in righteousness of their cause and blind to the threat that they pose.

:coffee:
You could dare say, we're fighting fascism with even more fascism. :coffee:

Re: Violent Rhetoric

Posted: Fri Sep 23, 2022 12:55 pm
by Pwns
The idea BLM is responsible for the Dallas police shootings or Tucker Carlson is responsible for the Buffallo shooting is dumb. We're the only country in the civilized world where this happens.

Re: Violent Rhetoric

Posted: Fri Sep 23, 2022 6:22 pm
by kalm
UNI88 wrote: Fri Sep 23, 2022 11:41 am
kalm wrote: Fri Sep 23, 2022 11:20 am

Violence is wrong and that transcends ideology.

If Biden’s words regarding fascism hurt people that might call for a little introspection.

To paraphrase you:
- If MTG's words regarding Muslims hurt people that might call for a little introspection.
- If Grahams words regarding riots in the streets scared people that might call for a little introspection.

Biden and extremist Democrats' belief in an omnipotent government are just as much of a threat to this country as MAGAt Republicans.

Both extremes are confident in righteousness of their cause and blind to the threat that they pose.

:coffee:
We should all be against violence, racism, fascism, rioting. I’ll leave your opinion that both sides are equivalent stand.

Re: Violent Rhetoric

Posted: Fri Sep 23, 2022 6:23 pm
by kalm
Pwns wrote: Fri Sep 23, 2022 12:55 pm The idea BLM is responsible for the Dallas police shootings or Tucker Carlson is responsible for the Buffallo shooting is dumb. We're the only country in the civilized world where this happens.
We are? :?

Re: Violent Rhetoric

Posted: Fri Sep 23, 2022 6:50 pm
by UNI88
kalm wrote: Fri Sep 23, 2022 6:22 pm
UNI88 wrote: Fri Sep 23, 2022 11:41 am
To paraphrase you:
- If MTG's words regarding Muslims hurt people that might call for a little introspection.
- If Grahams words regarding riots in the streets scared people that might call for a little introspection.

Biden and extremist Democrats' belief in an omnipotent government are just as much of a threat to this country as MAGAt Republicans.

Both extremes are confident in righteousness of their cause and blind to the threat that they pose.

:coffee:
We should all be against violence, racism, fascism, rioting. I’ll leave your opinion that both sides are equivalent stand.
To Ganny's point, is it ok to fight fascism with fascism?

Biden and his administration are trying to ostracize those that disagree with them rather than trying to work with them to find compromise and common ground. Granted many of the people that disagree with them are doing the same thing back so it isn't easy but someone needs to be the adult in the room and actually lead. I thought that was part of Biden's appeal/pitch? Unfortunately, he hasn't come close to living up to it.

Re: Violent Rhetoric

Posted: Sat Sep 24, 2022 5:07 am
by kalm
UNI88 wrote: Fri Sep 23, 2022 6:50 pm
kalm wrote: Fri Sep 23, 2022 6:22 pm

We should all be against violence, racism, fascism, rioting. I’ll leave your opinion that both sides are equivalent stand.
To Ganny's point, is it ok to fight fascism with fascism?

Biden and his administration are trying to ostracize those that disagree with them rather than trying to work with them to find compromise and common ground. Granted many of the people that disagree with them are doing the same thing back so it isn't easy but someone needs to be the adult in the room and actually lead. I thought that was part of Biden's appeal/pitch? Unfortunately, he hasn't come close to living up to it.
You fight fascism with Democracy and law and order.

"Each one hopes that if he feeds the crocodile enough, the crocodile will eat him last."

- Churchill

There’s disagreement over policy and then there’s disagreement over democracy, reason, rule of law, and violence.

And despite widespread condemnation of Chamberlin’s appeasement even Churchill tried to play nice for awhile before he realized ‘fuck that, these guys are crazy’.

Just a few of Trump’s truth social posts from two nights ago. Are these the kind of people you work with to find common ground? Should they be appeased?


Re: Violent Rhetoric

Posted: Sat Sep 24, 2022 6:10 am
by SDHornet
kalm wrote: Sat Sep 24, 2022 5:07 am
UNI88 wrote: Fri Sep 23, 2022 6:50 pm

To Ganny's point, is it ok to fight fascism with fascism?

Biden and his administration are trying to ostracize those that disagree with them rather than trying to work with them to find compromise and common ground. Granted many of the people that disagree with them are doing the same thing back so it isn't easy but someone needs to be the adult in the room and actually lead. I thought that was part of Biden's appeal/pitch? Unfortunately, he hasn't come close to living up to it.
You fight fascism with Democracy and law and order.

"Each one hopes that if he feeds the crocodile enough, the crocodile will eat him last."

- Churchill

There’s disagreement over policy and then there’s disagreement over democracy, reason, rule of law, and violence.

And despite widespread condemnation of Chamberlin’s appeasement even Churchill tried to play nice for awhile before he realized ‘fuck that, these guys are crazy’.

Just a few of Trump’s truth social posts from two nights ago. Are these the kind of people you work with to find common ground? Should they be appeased?

That's not what we saw in the summer of 2020.

Re: Violent Rhetoric

Posted: Sat Sep 24, 2022 7:15 am
by Baldy
kalm wrote: Sat Sep 24, 2022 5:07 am
UNI88 wrote: Fri Sep 23, 2022 6:50 pm

To Ganny's point, is it ok to fight fascism with fascism?

Biden and his administration are trying to ostracize those that disagree with them rather than trying to work with them to find compromise and common ground. Granted many of the people that disagree with them are doing the same thing back so it isn't easy but someone needs to be the adult in the room and actually lead. I thought that was part of Biden's appeal/pitch? Unfortunately, he hasn't come close to living up to it.
You fight fascism with Democracy and law and order.

"Each one hopes that if he feeds the crocodile enough, the crocodile will eat him last."

- Churchill

There’s disagreement over policy and then there’s disagreement over democracy, reason, rule of law, and violence.

And despite widespread condemnation of Chamberlin’s appeasement even Churchill tried to play nice for awhile before he realized ‘fuck that, these guys are crazy’.

Just a few of Trump’s truth social posts from two nights ago. Are these the kind of people you work with to find common ground? Should they be appeased?

Since Biden's speech in front of the devil's grotto calling Conks an exetential threat to the nation, we've had one Donk politician stab a journalist to death and another Donk run over a young Conk because he thought the kid was an "extremist". Yeah, let's find common ground with these people. :roll:

Re: Violent Rhetoric

Posted: Sat Sep 24, 2022 7:45 am
by kalm
Baldy wrote: Sat Sep 24, 2022 7:15 am
kalm wrote: Sat Sep 24, 2022 5:07 am

You fight fascism with Democracy and law and order.

"Each one hopes that if he feeds the crocodile enough, the crocodile will eat him last."

- Churchill

There’s disagreement over policy and then there’s disagreement over democracy, reason, rule of law, and violence.

And despite widespread condemnation of Chamberlin’s appeasement even Churchill tried to play nice for awhile before he realized ‘fuck that, these guys are crazy’.

Just a few of Trump’s truth social posts from two nights ago. Are these the kind of people you work with to find common ground? Should they be appeased?

Since Biden's speech in front of the devil's grotto calling Conks an exetential threat to the nation, we've had one Donk politician stab a journalist to death and another Donk run over a young Conk because he thought the kid was an "extremist". Yeah, let's find common ground with these people. :roll:
Evil exists on both sides. Still not close to equivalent. And Dark Brandon’s stage set up was unfortunate…I agree.


Re: Violent Rhetoric

Posted: Sat Sep 24, 2022 9:30 am
by UNI88

kalm wrote:
Baldy wrote: Sat Sep 24, 2022 7:15 am Since Biden's speech in front of the devil's grotto calling Conks an exetential threat to the nation, we've had one Donk politician stab a journalist to death and another Donk run over a young Conk because he thought the kid was an "extremist". Yeah, let's find common ground with these people. :roll:
Evil exists on both sides. Still not close to equivalent. And Dark Brandon’s stage set up was unfortunate…I agree.

I agree, the threat of the Democrats' omnipotent government to our Republic is much more insidious and greater than the threat of a tinpot dictator wannabe and his followers. That makes Biden and Garland a greater evil than trump.

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Re: Violent Rhetoric

Posted: Sat Sep 24, 2022 2:49 pm
by houndawg
Baldy wrote: Sat Sep 24, 2022 7:15 am
kalm wrote: Sat Sep 24, 2022 5:07 am

You fight fascism with Democracy and law and order.

"Each one hopes that if he feeds the crocodile enough, the crocodile will eat him last."

- Churchill

There’s disagreement over policy and then there’s disagreement over democracy, reason, rule of law, and violence.

And despite widespread condemnation of Chamberlin’s appeasement even Churchill tried to play nice for awhile before he realized ‘fuck that, these guys are crazy’.

Just a few of Trump’s truth social posts from two nights ago. Are these the kind of people you work with to find common ground? Should they be appeased?

Since Biden's speech in front of the devil's grotto calling Conks an exetential threat to the nation, we've had one Donk politician stab a journalist to death and another Donk run over a young Conk because he thought the kid was an "extremist". Yeah, let's find common ground with these people. :roll:
so sad :coffee:

Re: Violent Rhetoric

Posted: Sat Sep 24, 2022 8:40 pm
by JohnStOnge
UNI88 wrote: Fri Sep 23, 2022 10:59 am Sen. Paul, conservatives warn of ‘violent consequences’ of Biden rhetoric following death of North Dakota teen
"Words can have violent consequences," Kentucky Republican Rand Paul, who was the victim of political violence along with his wife outside the Republican National Convention in 2020, told Fox News Digital in a statement. "President Biden needs to realize that his vilification of his opponents is inflaming some of his supporters to violence. As a victim of political violence, both sides need to recognize the consequences of heated rhetoric."

"An 18-year-old was executed in cold blood by a Democrat political terrorist because of rhetoric like this," Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene, R-Ga., claimed on Twitter along with a video of Biden calling Trump supporters "extreme." "Democrats want Republicans dead, and they’ve already started the killings. Democrat’s political war against patriotic Americans must end!"
I agree with Senator Paul on this one but have to point out the hypocrisy of not also calling out inflammatory rhetoric by Republicans.

Didn't MTG go on a hateful Twitter rant against Muslims? How many inflammatory things has she said, tweeted, etc? Her commenting on this is beyond ironic.

What did Lindsey Graham say about riots in the streets if trump is charged?
The bottom line is that Biden was absolutely correct in calling out the danger that is presented by what he calls "MAGA Republicans." People need to realize that the mentality that put Trump in office is dangerous to this country. Trump being elected President is an obvious indicator that we have a serious problem with a critical mass of people in this country. They are not the majority. Thank Goodness. But they are a threat that needs to be defeated.

Re: Violent Rhetoric

Posted: Sun Sep 25, 2022 6:26 am
by kalm
UNI88 wrote: Sat Sep 24, 2022 9:30 am
kalm wrote:
Evil exists on both sides. Still not close to equivalent. And Dark Brandon’s stage set up was unfortunate…I agree.

I agree, the threat of the Democrats' omnipotent government to our Republic is much more insidious and greater than the threat of a tinpot dictator wannabe and his followers. That makes Biden and Garland a greater evil than trump.

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Well duh!

Re: Violent Rhetoric

Posted: Sun Sep 25, 2022 9:13 am
by AZGrizFan
JohnStOnge wrote: Sat Sep 24, 2022 8:40 pm
UNI88 wrote: Fri Sep 23, 2022 10:59 am Sen. Paul, conservatives warn of ‘violent consequences’ of Biden rhetoric following death of North Dakota teen



I agree with Senator Paul on this one but have to point out the hypocrisy of not also calling out inflammatory rhetoric by Republicans.

Didn't MTG go on a hateful Twitter rant against Muslims? How many inflammatory things has she said, tweeted, etc? Her commenting on this is beyond ironic.

What did Lindsey Graham say about riots in the streets if trump is charged?
The bottom line is that Biden was absolutely correct in calling out the danger that is presented by what he calls "MAGA Republicans." People need to realize that the mentality that put Trump in office is dangerous to this country. Trump being elected President is an obvious indicator that we have a serious problem with a critical mass of people in this country. They are not the majority. Thank Goodness. But they are a threat that needs to be defeated.
You are such a bridge builder.

Re: Violent Rhetoric

Posted: Sun Sep 25, 2022 1:21 pm
by houndawg
Baldy wrote: Sat Sep 24, 2022 7:15 am
kalm wrote: Sat Sep 24, 2022 5:07 am

You fight fascism with Democracy and law and order.

"Each one hopes that if he feeds the crocodile enough, the crocodile will eat him last."

- Churchill

There’s disagreement over policy and then there’s disagreement over democracy, reason, rule of law, and violence.

And despite widespread condemnation of Chamberlin’s appeasement even Churchill tried to play nice for awhile before he realized ‘fuck that, these guys are crazy’.

Just a few of Trump’s truth social posts from two nights ago. Are these the kind of people you work with to find common ground? Should they be appeased?

Since Biden's speech in front of the devil's grotto calling Conks an exetential threat to the nation, we've had one Donk politician stab a journalist to death and another Donk run over a young Conk because he thought the kid was an "extremist". Yeah, let's find common ground with these people. :roll:
...payback's a bitch. :coffee:

Re: Violent Rhetoric

Posted: Sun Sep 25, 2022 3:53 pm
by SDHornet
houndawg wrote: Sun Sep 25, 2022 1:21 pm
Baldy wrote: Sat Sep 24, 2022 7:15 am
Since Biden's speech in front of the devil's grotto calling Conks an exetential threat to the nation, we've had one Donk politician stab a journalist to death and another Donk run over a young Conk because he thought the kid was an "extremist". Yeah, let's find common ground with these people. :roll:
...payback's a bitch. :coffee:
Not a surprise that a Leftist would condone violent actions against those with opposing ideology.

Re: Violent Rhetoric

Posted: Sun Sep 25, 2022 4:56 pm
by UNI88
SDHornet wrote: Sun Sep 25, 2022 3:53 pm
houndawg wrote: Sun Sep 25, 2022 1:21 pm
...payback's a bitch. :coffee:
Not a surprise that a Leftist would condone violent actions against those with opposing ideology.
kalm, how should we respond to Houndy's fascism?

Re: Violent Rhetoric

Posted: Sun Sep 25, 2022 7:00 pm
by houndawg
SDHornet wrote: Sun Sep 25, 2022 3:53 pm
houndawg wrote: Sun Sep 25, 2022 1:21 pm

...payback's a bitch. :coffee:
Not a surprise that a Leftist would condone violent actions against those with opposing ideology.
:roll:

...not condoning anything just an observation on how the universe seems to balance these things out..person from one side gets run over at one event, person from the other side gets run over at another event.


SDHornet...ever the drama queen.. :ohno:

Re: Violent Rhetoric

Posted: Sun Sep 25, 2022 7:20 pm
by houndawg
UNI88 wrote: Sun Sep 25, 2022 4:56 pm
SDHornet wrote: Sun Sep 25, 2022 3:53 pm

Not a surprise that a Leftist would condone violent actions against those with opposing ideology.
kalm, how should we respond to Houndy's fascism?
You should clutch your pearls and recoil in horror while SDQueef convulses reflexively and gasps on about forever wars. :coffee:

Re: Violent Rhetoric

Posted: Sun Sep 25, 2022 9:29 pm
by Baldy
houndawg wrote: Sun Sep 25, 2022 7:20 pm
UNI88 wrote: Sun Sep 25, 2022 4:56 pm

kalm, how should we respond to Houndy's fascism?
You should clutch your pearls and recoil in horror while SDQueef convulses reflexively and gasps on about forever wars. :coffee:
This is funny coming from the Drama Grandma who balled himself up in the fetal position because he was convinced that a couple hundred unarmed rednecks were trying to overthrow the country. :lol: