2024 elections Congressional & State

[kalm]

It's like the stepped-up care section of a nursing home. It's a travesty that we're trotting out old people like this in jobs that really should require a fair more cognitive person. Whether it be Feinstein, Biden, McConnell, or Trump, or any other handful of just too old people, we have way too many folks in these positions who really shouldn't be.

Their gatekeepers and donors disagree.

[GannonFan]

It's like the stepped-up care section of a nursing home. It's a travesty that we're trotting out old people like this in jobs that really should require a fair more cognitive person. Whether it be Feinstein, Biden, McConnell, or Trump, or any other handful of just too old people, we have way too many folks in these positions who really shouldn't be.

Their gatekeepers and donors disagree.

Indeed. We have so many seats in Congress and in the White House that are just being run by committees of people now that we might not even know on various staffs. Makes you wonder where the spouses or children of these way-too-old folks are, but obviously they're benefitting from this too or they'd be demanding their addled spouses/parents retire.

[BDKJMU]

It's like the stepped-up care section of a nursing home. It's a travesty that we're trotting out old people like this in jobs that really should require a fair more cognitive person. Whether it be Feinstein, Biden, McConnell, or Trump, or any other handful of just too old people, we have way too many folks in these positions who really shouldn't be.

Senate is the oldest in history, House one of the oldest ever.

19 in Congress 80+ (14 donk, 5 conk). 1 over 90 (Feinstein).
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics ... r-AA1erLcO

[houndawg]

Their gatekeepers and donors disagree.

Indeed. We have so many seats in Congress and in the White House that are just being run by committees of people now that we might not even know on various staffs. Makes you wonder where the spouses or children of these way-too-old folks are, but obviously they're benefitting from this too or they'd be demanding their addled spouses/parents retire.

Push legislation to rebrand Congress as the Politburo

[BDKJMU]

Feinstein hospitaized and later released. Feinstein‘s staff:

“Senator Feinstein briefly went to the hospital yesterday afternoon as a precaution after a minor fall in her home.

Lol no one goes to the hospital for a ‘minor’ fall.

[GannonFan]

Feinstein hospitaized and later released. Feinstein‘s staff:

“Senator Feinstein briefly went to the hospital yesterday afternoon as a precaution after a minor fall in her home.

Lol no one goes to the hospital for a ‘minor’ fall.

Old people do. You may not know very many old people, but they tend to fall a lot more than the average, younger person. And anything that is questionable more often than not leads to a hospital visit, just to make sure.

With all that said, she needs to retire, she can't even remotely do a smidgen of the job anymore.

[houndawg]

It's like the stepped-up care section of a nursing home. It's a travesty that we're trotting out old people like this in jobs that really should require a fair more cognitive person. Whether it be Feinstein, Biden, McConnell, or Trump, or any other handful of just too old people, we have way too many folks in these positions who really shouldn't be.

Senate is the oldest in history, House one of the oldest ever.

19 in Congress 80+ (14 donk, 5 conk). 1 over 90 (Feinstein).
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics ... r-AA1erLcO

They aren't that old compared to the Politburo

[houndawg]

Feinstein hospitaized and later released. Feinstein‘s staff:

Lol no one goes to the hospital for a ‘minor’ fall.

Old people do. You may not know very many old people, but they tend to fall a lot more than the average, younger person. And anything that is questionable more often than not leads to a hospital visit, just to make sure.

With all that said, she needs to retire, she can't even remotely do a smidgen of the job anymore.

The mandatory retirement age for these people should be 70. Possibly 75 for special circumstance with enough support. After that its time to let someone else get their snout into the feed trough.

[GannonFan]

Old people do. You may not know very many old people, but they tend to fall a lot more than the average, younger person. And anything that is questionable more often than not leads to a hospital visit, just to make sure.

With all that said, she needs to retire, she can't even remotely do a smidgen of the job anymore.

The mandatory retirement age for these people should be 70. Possibly 75 for special circumstance with enough support. After that its time to let someone else get their snout into the feed trough.

I'd get behind that. Heck, even the Catholic Church has 75 as the mandatory retirement for all but the Pope. Who'da thunk we'd be so far behind the Catholic Church on sensible government.

[houndawg]

The mandatory retirement age for these people should be 70. Possibly 75 for special circumstance with enough support. After that its time to let someone else get their snout into the feed trough.

I'd get behind that. Heck, even the Catholic Church has 75 as the mandatory retirement for all but the Pope. Who'da thunk we'd be so far behind the Catholic Church on sensible government.

And there are exceptions that are capable of working much longer but that isn't really a point. By the time you're in your 70s its somebody with a longer horizons turn to steer the ship

[BDKJMU]

Manchin sounds like he’s going to leave the Democrat party..

…“I’m thinking seriously. For me, I have to have peace of mind, basically. The brand has become so bad — the D brand and R brand. In West Virginia, the D brand because it’s [the] national brand. It’s not the Democrats in West Virginia, it’s the Democrats in Washington.

“You’ve heard me say a million times I’m not a Washington Democrat,” he said….

https://thehill.com/homenews/senate/414 ... share-link

[houndawg]

Manchin sounds like he’s going to leave the Democrat party..

…“I’m thinking seriously. For me, I have to have peace of mind, basically. The brand has become so bad — the D brand and R brand. In West Virginia, the D brand because it’s [the] national brand. It’s not the Democrats in West Virginia, it’s the Democrats in Washington.

“You’ve heard me say a million times I’m not a Washington Democrat,” he said….

https://thehill.com/homenews/senate/414 ... share-link

He left them a long time ago

[UNI88]

Manchin sounds like he’s going to leave the Democrat party.. https://thehill.com/homenews/senate/414 ... share-link

Biden and most donks left the party a long time ago

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[houndawg]

Biden and most donks left the party a long time ago

Sometimes, late at night, I lie awake and I imagine how cool it would be if I, too, were witty and urbane like Uncle Houndawg and I could write my own material and how if only people had been nicer to me when I was little I wouldn't be such a spiteful twat now....but alas.....


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I know, I know, the lesser males are always envious of those of us selected for breeding - and who could blame them - but you should try to not take it personally. Have you tried attending a local church? There are usually more females than males

[kalm]

Biden and most donks left the party a long time ago

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Which is why you support them?

[UNI88]

Sometimes, late at night, I lie awake and I imagine how cool it would be if I, too, were witty and urbane like Uncle Houndawg and I could write my own material and how if only people had been nicer to me when I was little I wouldn't be such a spiteful twat now....but alas.....

I know, I know, the lesser males are always envious of those of us selected for breeding - and who could blame them - but you should try to not take it personally. Have you tried attending a local church? There are usually more females than males

Look, it's Harry Dunne giving me dating advice.

FYP

Which is why you support them?

And here's Lloyd Christmas.

The Democratic Party left Manchin just like the Republican Party left Murkowski & Collins.

[kalm]

I know, I know, the lesser males are always envious of those of us selected for breeding - and who could blame them - but you should try to not take it personally. Have you tried attending a local church? There are usually more females than males

Look, it's Harry Dunne giving me dating advice.

Which is why you support them?

And here's Lloyd Christmas.

The Democratic Party left Manchin just like the Republican Party left Murkowski & Collins.

So Biden and most Donks didn’t leave the party?

[UNI88]

Look, it's Harry Dunne giving me dating advice.

And here's Lloyd Christmas.

The Democratic Party left Manchin just like the Republican Party left Murkowski & Collins.

So Biden and most Donks didn’t leave the party?

Are you going to nitpick my specific wording bdKALM?

The party left Manchin or Manchin left the party gives you the same result. The Democratic Party has shifted to the left and left centrists like Manchin behind just like the Republican Party has shifted to the right (on cultural issues) and left centrists behind. You can nitpick whether Manchin left the party or the party left Manchin but the reality is that the party has shifted and is not the same party that Manchin joined.

[kalm]

So Biden and most Donks didn’t leave the party?

Are you going to nitpick my specific wording bdKALM?

The party left Manchin or Manchin left the party gives you the same result. The Democratic Party has shifted to the left and left centrists like Manchin behind just like the Republican Party has shifted to the right (on cultural issues) and left centrists behind. You can nitpick whether Manchin left the party or the party left Manchin but the reality is that the party has shifted and is not the same party that Manchin joined.

Manchin is a corporatist grifter like nearly all of congress. He sucks for the environment and the average American.

He’s a great fit for either party.

[UNI88]

Are you going to nitpick my specific wording bdKALM?

The party left Manchin or Manchin left the party gives you the same result. The Democratic Party has shifted to the left and left centrists like Manchin behind just like the Republican Party has shifted to the right (on cultural issues) and left centrists behind. You can nitpick whether Manchin left the party or the party left Manchin but the reality is that the party has shifted and is not the same party that Manchin joined.

Manchin is a corporatist grifter like nearly all of congress. He sucks for the environment and the average American.

He’s a great fit for either party.

Congress critters who aren't corporatist grifters are idiots who don't understand economics and would do more damage if given power than the corporatist grifters. People like AOChe, MTG, Fauxchontas, Gaetz, etc.

[houndawg]

So Biden and most Donks didn’t leave the party?

Are you going to nitpick my specific wording bdKALM?

The party left Manchin or Manchin left the party gives you the same result. The Democratic Party has shifted to the left and left centrists like Manchin behind just like the Republican Party has shifted to the right (on cultural issues) and left centrists behind. You can nitpick whether Manchin left the party or the party left Manchin but the reality is that the party has shifted and is not the same party that Manchin joined.

well, that escalated quickly...

[BDKJMU]

So Biden and most Donks didn’t leave the party?

Are you going to nitpick my specific wording bdKALM?

The party left Manchin or Manchin left the party gives you the same result. The Democratic Party has shifted to the left and left centrists like Manchin behind just like the Republican Party has shifted to the right (on cultural issues) and left centrists behind. You can nitpick whether Manchin left the party or the party left Manchin but the reality is that the party has shifted and is not the same party that Manchin joined.

Have they? The conks (as a party) in the last 30-40 years have:

Gay Marriage & rights
-Conks shifted left.
-Donks shifted way left.
100% of conks, and and most donks, voted for 1996 Defense of Marriage Act. 20-25% of conks in Congress voted for its repeal 2 years ago.

Woke trans ideology
-Conks have stayed put.
-Donks shifted way left.

Conks certainly aren’t more right on this than 20/30/40 years ago to what wasn’t much of an issue then. This has taken off the last 6-8 years as something that has been pushed by the left. If it had been at the forefront 20, 30, 40 years ago, conks would have been just as to the right as now, if not more so.

Abortion
Conks: About the same
Donks: About the same.

Are conks any more to the right on abortion than 20-30-40 years ago? They always were pushing to have Row overturned.The donks seemed to have stayed about the same to.

2A
Conks: About the same.
Donks: Shifted left

30-40, 50 years ago kids could keep their hunting rifles in their vehicles on school property in the rural areas of just about every state, includong democrat districts. Up until about 40 yeara ago there weren’t even background checks. I think the donks have shifted left because of the near extinction of the rural democrats..

Illegal immigration/border security (social and economic issue):
Conks: Shifted right.
Donks: Shifted left.
Parties were pretty close I think 30-40 years ago. A large chunk of the conks wanted the cheap labor, and a large chunk of the donks were against it because of the unions. Remember in the 1990s there are clips of Clinton, Schumer, et al referring to illegal immigrants as..illegal immigrants while railing against it.

Religion/Christianity:
-Conks: stayed the same.
-Donks: shifted left.
Maybe some will disagree on this, but the fundies have been a major part of the conk part going back at least 40 years. I think its society that has shifted left, as the country has gone less religious over the last generation (ex church attendance has gone down).

I just mentioned the 1st half doz social issues that came to mind. What major social issues, besides immigration, have the conks shifted to the right on over the last 30-40 years?

[kalm]

Manchin is a corporatist grifter like nearly all of congress. He sucks for the environment and the average American.

He’s a great fit for either party.

Congress critters who aren't corporatist grifters are idiots who don't understand economics and would do more damage if given power than the corporatist grifters. People like AOChe, MTG, Fauxchontas, Gaetz, etc.

So our economics should be splendid then! Long live corruption!

[kalm]

Are you going to nitpick my specific wording bdKALM?

The party left Manchin or Manchin left the party gives you the same result. The Democratic Party has shifted to the left and left centrists like Manchin behind just like the Republican Party has shifted to the right (on cultural issues) and left centrists behind. You can nitpick whether Manchin left the party or the party left Manchin but the reality is that the party has shifted and is not the same party that Manchin joined.

well, that escalated quickly...

It’s ok. ‘88 is a good chap. There was once a time when neo-liberalism was exciting and new and could be embraced to a degree by classic conservatives. He’s just struggling with the inevitability of change like many are.

[UNI88]

Are you going to nitpick my specific wording bdKALM?

The party left Manchin or Manchin left the party gives you the same result. The Democratic Party has shifted to the left and left centrists like Manchin behind just like the Republican Party has shifted to the right (on cultural issues) and left centrists behind. You can nitpick whether Manchin left the party or the party left Manchin but the reality is that the party has shifted and is not the same party that Manchin joined.

Have they? The conks (as a party) in the last 30-40 years have:

Gay Marriage & rights
-Conks shifted left.
-Donks shifted way left.
100% of conks, and and most donks, voted for 1996 Defense of Marriage Act. 20-25% of conks in Congress voted for its repeal 2 years ago.

Woke trans ideology
-Conks have stayed put.
-Donks shifted way left.

Conks certainly aren’t more right on this than 20/30/40 years ago to what wasn’t much of an issue then. This has taken off the last 6-8 years as something that has been pushed by the left. If it had been at the forefront 20, 30, 40 years ago, conks would have been just as to the right as now, if not more so.

Abortion
Conks: About the same
Donks: About the same.

Are conks any more to the right on abortion than 20-30-40 years ago? They always were pushing to have Row overturned.The donks seemed to have stayed about the same to.

2A
Conks: About the same.
Donks: Shifted left

30-40, 50 years ago kids could keep their hunting rifles in their vehicles on school property in the rural areas of just about every state, includong democrat districts. Up until about 40 yeara ago there weren’t even background checks. I think the donks have shifted left because of the near extinction of the rural democrats..

Illegal immigration/border security (social and economic issue):
Conks: Shifted right.
Donks: Shifted left.
Parties were pretty close I think 30-40 years ago. A large chunk of the conks wanted the cheap labor, and a large chunk of the donks were against it because of the unions. Remember in the 1990s there are clips of Clinton, Schumer, et al referring to illegal immigrants as..illegal immigrants while railing against it.

Religion/Christianity:
-Conks: stayed the same.
-Donks: shifted left.
Maybe some will disagree on this, but the fundies have been a major part of the conk part going back at least 40 years. I think its society that has shifted left, as the country has gone less religious over the last generation (ex church attendance has gone down).

I just mentioned the 1st half doz social issues that came to mind. What major social issues, besides immigration, have the conks shifted to the right on over the last 30-40 years?

Moderates/centrists like Murkowski & Collins and neo-cons with scruples like Cheney and Kinzinger are called RINOs.

Fundamentalist zealots may have always been a major part of the conk party but they have a lot more influence than they used to.

The Republican Party has become puritan prudes in:
- Attempting to force their social mores on others
- Prioritizing social issues over economics and opportunity
- Book banning
- Attacking businesses
- Not respecting states rights if those states have different philosophies (Idaho's abortion laws for example).
- Demonizing public education

They've also for the most part bought hook, line and sinker trump's BS that the 2020 election was stolen and that he's a victim of a witch hunt. They're more interested in going after the Bidens with the same zeal than actually governing but fail to see the irony.