Climate Change Defamation

[kalm]

As pointed out before, the climategate fiasco controversy was an orchestrated hit and not based in science. The Hockey Stick graph wasn’t the issue.

The high-profile climate scientist Michael Mann has been awarded $1m by a jury in a defamation lawsuit against two conservative writers who compared his depictions of global heating to the work of a convicted child molester.

World ‘not prepared’ for climate disasters after warmest ever January
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The case stretches back 12 years. In a statement posted on Mann’s X account, one of his lawyers said: “Today’s verdict vindicates Mike Mann’s good name and reputation. It also is a big victory for truth and scientists everywhere who dedicate their lives answering vital scientific questions impacting human health and the planet.”

Mann rose to fame for a graph first published in 1998 in the journal Nature that was dubbed the “hockey stick” for its dramatic illustration of a warming planet. It showed average temperatures in the northern hemisphere changing little for 900 years, until they started to rise rapidly in the 20th century.

https://www.theguardian.com/environment ... on-lawsuit

[Caribbean Hen]

How is your favorite war in the Ukraine helping climate change ?

[kalm]

How is your favorite war in the Ukraine helping climate change ?

It’s not which is why Russia should pack up and go home.

[Caribbean Hen]

How is your favorite war in the Ukraine helping climate change ?

It’s not which is why Russia should pack up and go home.

No questions asked

[kalm]

It’s not which is why Russia should pack up and go home.

No questions asked

?

[UNI88]

It’s not which is why Russia should pack up and go home.

No questions asked

Why shouldn't russia pack up and go home?

There, a question was asked.

[Caribbean Hen]

No questions asked

Why shouldn't russia pack up and go home?

There, a question was asked.

Because boJoJo hasn’t even talked to Putin since February 2022. Maybe he should try to negotiate something

Isn’t the strategy to keep pumping money over their to eventually weaken Russia? Guess what, it’s not working

[SeattleGriz]

As pointed out before, the climategate fiasco controversy was an orchestrated hit and not based in science. The Hockey Stick graph wasn’t the issue.

The high-profile climate scientist Michael Mann has been awarded $1m by a jury in a defamation lawsuit against two conservative writers who compared his depictions of global heating to the work of a convicted child molester.

World ‘not prepared’ for climate disasters after warmest ever January
Read more
The case stretches back 12 years. In a statement posted on Mann’s X account, one of his lawyers said: “Today’s verdict vindicates Mike Mann’s good name and reputation. It also is a big victory for truth and scientists everywhere who dedicate their lives answering vital scientific questions impacting human health and the planet.”

Mann rose to fame for a graph first published in 1998 in the journal Nature that was dubbed the “hockey stick” for its dramatic illustration of a warming planet. It showed average temperatures in the northern hemisphere changing little for 900 years, until they started to rise rapidly in the 20th century.

https://www.theguardian.com/environment ... on-lawsuit

Can you expand a little on Climate Gate? My memory of it was mostly the collaboration to prevent the release of their data for analysis.

In what seems to be more the norm, they were not allowing their work to be questioned by withholding their data.

[houndawg]

Why shouldn't russia pack up and go home?

There, a question was asked.

Because boJoJo hasn’t even talked to Putin since February 2022. Maybe he should try to negotiate something

Isn’t the strategy to keep pumping money over their to eventually weaken Russia? Guess what, it’s not working

Maybe he would if it were his country being invaded.....especially if we had to count on the likes of you for fighting...

Are actively attempting to increase your coefficient of stupid or something...?

[Caribbean Hen]

Because boJoJo hasn’t even talked to Putin since February 2022. Maybe he should try to negotiate something

Isn’t the strategy to keep pumping money over their to eventually weaken Russia? Guess what, it’s not working

Maybe he would if it were his country being invaded.....especially if we had to count on the likes of you for fighting...

Are actively attempting to increase your coefficient of stupid or something...?

He’s treating like his country and Ukraine will potentially be the biggest cash drain on the US long past your time here on the planet ….

[Caribbean Hen]

I'm wondering what caused the first four Ice Ages. And the "Little Ice Age" from about 1300[ to about 1850. I'm thinking that man had a pretty small effect on those.

[kalm]

Maybe he would if it were his country being invaded.....especially if we had to count on the likes of you for fighting...

Are actively attempting to increase your coefficient of stupid or something...?

He’s treating like his country and Ukraine will potentially be the biggest cash drain on the US long past your time here on the planet ….

Will it?





https://cepr.net/putting-ukraine-spending-in-context/

[Caribbean Hen]

I guess you posted that because you don’t think it’s a strain on the budget, but you don’t think about the culmination of all the reckless spending that we don’t have the money for ….. 34 trillion in debt with no end in sight because we’re a spoiled and entitled lot

[kalm]

I guess you posted that because you don’t think it’s a strain on the budget, but you don’t think about the culmination of all the reckless spending that we don’t have the money for ….. 34 trillion in debt with no end in sight because we’re a spoiled and entitled lot

Your statement of it being the biggest cash drain on the U.S. is simply false.

What’s reckless is highly subjective.

Do better.

[Caribbean Hen]

I guess you posted that because you don’t think it’s a strain on the budget, but you don’t think about the culmination of all the reckless spending that we don’t have the money for ….. 34 trillion in debt with no end in sight because we’re a spoiled and entitled lot

Your statement of it being the biggest cash drain on the U.S. is simply false.

What’s reckless is highly subjective.

Do better.

How many years will the US be supporting The Ukraine financially ?

It might be forever…. and you know people don’t write a thesis in every post…. Biggest cash drain for our newest overseas territory sound better? SNAP benefits?

Ultimately, Russia will get what Putin wants in the Ukraine
unless we think it’s worth fighting for by a much more serious, dirty and bloody approach

My option would be to negotiate to end it, their is no winning over there, only trade offs

If Putin continues his aggression after an agreement, that’s when it’s time to take the gloves off

[houndawg]

Your statement of it being the biggest cash drain on the U.S. is simply false.

What’s reckless is highly subjective.

Do better.

How many years will the US be supporting The Ukraine financially ?

It might be forever…. and you know people don’t write a thesis in every post…. Biggest cash drain for our newest overseas territory sound better? SNAP benefits?

Ultimately, Russia will get what Putin wants in the Ukraine
unless we think it’s worth fighting for by a much more serious, dirty and bloody approach

My option would be to negotiate to end it, their is no winning over there, only trade offs

If Putin continues his aggression after an agreement, that’s when it’s time to take the gloves off

What else would we send to the Breadbasket of Europe?

[Caribbean Hen]

How many years will the US be supporting The Ukraine financially ?

It might be forever…. and you know people don’t write a thesis in every post…. Biggest cash drain for our newest overseas territory sound better? SNAP benefits?

Ultimately, Russia will get what Putin wants in the Ukraine
unless we think it’s worth fighting for by a much more serious, dirty and bloody approach

My option would be to negotiate to end it, their is no winning over there, only trade offs

If Putin continues his aggression after an agreement, that’s when it’s time to take the gloves off

What else would we send to the Breadbasket of Europe?

So will the price of a bag of Doritos stay pegged at 7 bucks?

[SeattleGriz]

I guess you posted that because you don’t think it’s a strain on the budget, but you don’t think about the culmination of all the reckless spending that we don’t have the money for ….. 34 trillion in debt with no end in sight because we’re a spoiled and entitled lot

Your statement of it being the biggest cash drain on the U.S. is simply false.

What’s reckless is highly subjective.

Do better.

Coming from the guy who continually uses highly subjective COVID totals to try and bolster his argument instead of percentages as has always been done is hilarious. Nice flip flop on your concern about accurate metrics.

[kalm]

Your statement of it being the biggest cash drain on the U.S. is simply false.

What’s reckless is highly subjective.

Do better.

Coming from the guy who continually uses highly subjective COVID totals to try and bolster his argument instead of percentages as has always been done is hilarious. Nice flip flop on your concern about accurate metrics.

Huh? UKR spending in the graphs is a percentage of total budget. IIRC there’s similar numbers as a percentage of GDP.

Keep trying, Champ. Or build your own economic and covid models.

[SeattleGriz]

Coming from the guy who continually uses highly subjective COVID totals to try and bolster his argument instead of percentages as has always been done is hilarious. Nice flip flop on your concern about accurate metrics.

Huh? UKR spending in the graphs is a percentage of total budget. IIRC there’s similar numbers as a percentage of GDP.

Keep trying, Champ. Or build your own economic and covid models.

When COVID death is reported as percentage of total population, it shows it wasn't too far from norms, but you only use total deaths, which is highly inflated, to try and bolster your argument.

I'm pointing out how you now care for the metric when it suits your need. Now you say percentages matter. Those are still dollars regardless of percentage totals. To argue they are inconsequential is a fallacy.

[houndawg]

What else would we send to the Breadbasket of Europe?

So will the price of a bag of Doritos stay pegged at 7 bucks?

...don't use them, wouldn't know..

Guess what? Prices don't go down.

[kalm]

Huh? UKR spending in the graphs is a percentage of total budget. IIRC there’s similar numbers as a percentage of GDP.

Keep trying, Champ. Or build your own economic and covid models.

When COVID death is reported as percentage of total population, it shows it wasn't too far from norms, but you only use total deaths, which is highly inflated, to try and bolster your argument.

I'm pointing out how you now care for the metric when it suits your need. Now you say percentages matter. Those are still dollars regardless of percentage totals. To argue they are inconsequential is a fallacy.

Huh?

I’ve used both. Per capita is good when comparing countries or states. Total deaths means a lot of fucking people died. Whether you believe the numbers are inflated or not.

$64 billion seems like a huge chunk of change until you compare it to other things we choose to spend money or when comparing it as a percentage of GDP.

These aren’t tough things to follow.

[SeattleGriz]

When COVID death is reported as percentage of total population, it shows it wasn't too far from norms, but you only use total deaths, which is highly inflated, to try and bolster your argument.

I'm pointing out how you now care for the metric when it suits your need. Now you say percentages matter. Those are still dollars regardless of percentage totals. To argue they are inconsequential is a fallacy.

Huh?

I’ve used both. Per capita is good when comparing countries or states. Total deaths means a lot of fucking people died. Whether you believe the numbers are inflated or not.

$64 billion seems like a huge chunk of change until you compare it to other things we choose to spend money or when comparing it as a percentage of GDP.

These aren’t tough things to follow.

Your COVID death numbers seem like a huge chunk until you compare it as a percentage of the total population.

[kalm]

Huh?

I’ve used both. Per capita is good when comparing countries or states. Total deaths means a lot of fucking people died. Whether you believe the numbers are inflated or not.

$64 billion seems like a huge chunk of change until you compare it to other things we choose to spend money or when comparing it as a percentage of GDP.

These aren’t tough things to follow.

Your COVID death numbers seem like a huge chunk until you compare it as a percentage of the total population.

Still a bunch of people died….despite modern medicine and “lockdowns”. Human life used to be valued.

[SeattleGriz]

Your COVID death numbers seem like a huge chunk until you compare it as a percentage of the total population.

Still a bunch of people died….despite modern medicine and “lockdowns”. Human life used to be valued.

You chose to follow one metric (deaths) and not the other (%) in regards to COVID.

Pick the other metric (%) and one sees COVID was only slightly worse than a bad cold and flu season with age being the biggest factor in deaths, so the vast majority were not at risk.

Lockdowns don't work for a respiratory pandemic. That's been documented for years. Maybe if the people you supported had applied focused protection to the elderly instead of bringing COVID into their nursing homes, we'd have seen that level of care you want to see. This was all over a metric and you were a medical fascist.