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The War on Free Speech

Posted: Thu Aug 29, 2024 8:53 am
by BDKJMU
The War on Free Speech could be under the Culture Wars thread, but really deserves a thread of its own.

In Europe UK arresting people over Facebook posts and now the arrest of the Telegram founder is a disturbing trend that’s coming coming to the US:

Re: The War on Free Speech

Posted: Thu Aug 29, 2024 8:59 am
by BDKJMU
Just more reasons to hate govt, which has no business trying to censor Americans.

Zuckerberg Letter Confirms Government Engaged in Big Tech Censorship
https://redstate.com/heartlandinstitute ... p-n2178670


Re: The War on Free Speech

Posted: Thu Aug 29, 2024 10:48 am
by Bobcat
The lefties wont care.

Just like the Trump Russia stuff was made up bullshit they still parrot that as fact. They interfered with an election and they dont care. That who they are.

Re: The War on Free Speech

Posted: Thu Aug 29, 2024 10:53 am
by Caribbean Hen
Bobcat wrote: Thu Aug 29, 2024 10:48 am The lefties wont care.

Just like the Trump Russia stuff was made up bullshit they still parrot that as fact. They interfered with an election and they dont care. That who they are.
But Trump is so mean

Re: The War on Free Speech

Posted: Thu Aug 29, 2024 10:59 am
by UNI88
Bobskat wrote: Thu Aug 29, 2024 10:48 am The lefties wont care.

Just like the Trump Russia stuff was made up bullshit they still parrot that as fact. They interfered with an election and they dont care. That who they are.
The trump russia stuff was not made up bullshit.
- russia regularly interferes in US and other elections.
- There were connections between donald's campaign and russia.

A lack of convictions doesn't mean nothing happened. It could mean that there just wasn't enough evidence or what happened wasn't serious enough to merit a conviction.

It's very similar to many of the allegations against hunter biden. There is enough stink there to believe something happened but not enough evidence to convict.

Re: The War on Free Speech

Posted: Thu Aug 29, 2024 11:23 am
by Bobcat
Caribbean Hen wrote: Thu Aug 29, 2024 10:53 am
Bobcat wrote: Thu Aug 29, 2024 10:48 am The lefties wont care.

Just like the Trump Russia stuff was made up bullshit they still parrot that as fact. They interfered with an election and they dont care. That who they are.
But Trump is so mean
Tweets and stuff RUSSIA!!! All fake news but they dont care

Re: The War on Free Speech

Posted: Thu Aug 29, 2024 2:07 pm
by ∞∞∞
I didn't realize drug trafficking and child porn fell under free speech.

Telegram knows its platform is being used for illicit stuff and do nothing about it under the guise of "free speech." I'm ok with this arrest. When you're not even trying to remove/limit illegal content, then don't be surprised when the law catches up to you.

We arrest people for knowing their friend diddled a kid and not reporting it; why is this any different?

Re: The War on Free Speech

Posted: Thu Aug 29, 2024 2:24 pm
by kalm
∞∞∞ wrote: Thu Aug 29, 2024 2:07 pm I didn't realize drug trafficking and child porn fell under free speech.

Telegram knows its platform is being used for illicit stuff and do nothing about it under the guise of "free speech." I'm ok with this arrest. When you're not even trying to remove/limit illegal content, then don't be surprised when the law catches up to you.

We arrest people for knowing someone else diddled a kid and not reporting it; why is this any different?
I figured there was more to the story. Thanks, Trip!

I guess pedophilia is find as long it’s MAGA’s pedo’s and they’re Russian.

Re: The War on Free Speech

Posted: Thu Aug 29, 2024 4:00 pm
by Bobcat
∞∞∞ wrote: Thu Aug 29, 2024 2:07 pm I didn't realize drug trafficking and child porn fell under free speech.

Telegram knows its platform is being used for illicit stuff and do nothing about it under the guise of "free speech." I'm ok with this arrest. When you're not even trying to remove/limit illegal content, then don't be surprised when the law catches up to you.

We arrest people for knowing their friend diddled a kid and not reporting it; why is this any different?
You are one seriously fucked up individual.

Re: The War on Free Speech

Posted: Thu Aug 29, 2024 4:19 pm
by ∞∞∞
Bobcat wrote: Thu Aug 29, 2024 4:00 pm
∞∞∞ wrote: Thu Aug 29, 2024 2:07 pm I didn't realize drug trafficking and child porn fell under free speech.

Telegram knows its platform is being used for illicit stuff and do nothing about it under the guise of "free speech." I'm ok with this arrest. When you're not even trying to remove/limit illegal content, then don't be surprised when the law catches up to you.

We arrest people for knowing their friend diddled a kid and not reporting it; why is this any different?
You are one seriously fucked up individual.
Let’s say a Walmart manager knows ten of his customers are running a child porn ring in the store. They even use Walmart’s WiFi and other employees know about it too.

The manager goes, “well it’s not problem they are distributing child porn in my store, as long as I have nothing to do with it. And all you other employees, it’s not your problem too…please continue with your job.”

Now imagine they’ve known for years. The law finally finds out about the ring AND that the manager knew about it for years. What should they do?

This is the scenario with Telegram.

Now imagine yourself as manager…how do YOU handle it?

Re: The War on Free Speech

Posted: Thu Aug 29, 2024 4:25 pm
by BDKJMU
Still does my address what’s going on in the UK, or lying by the FBI to social media over Hunter’s laptop, or the Biden/Harris admin pressuring social media companies to censor during Covid.

Re: The War on Free Speech

Posted: Thu Aug 29, 2024 4:34 pm
by UNI88
∞∞∞ wrote: Thu Aug 29, 2024 4:19 pm
Bobcat wrote: Thu Aug 29, 2024 4:00 pm
You are one seriously fucked up individual.
Let’s say a Walmart manager knows ten of his customers are running a child porn ring in the store. They even use Walmart’s WiFi and other employees know about it too.

The manager goes, “well it’s not problem they are distributing child porn in my store, as long as I have nothing to do with it. And all you other employees, it’s not your problem too…please continue with your job.”

Now imagine they’ve known for years. The law finally finds out about the ring AND that the manager knew about it for years. What should they do?

This is the scenario with Telegram.

Now imagine yourself as manager…how do YOU handle it?
Welcome to the club Trip. I'd be more worried about what kind of person I was if bobskat didn't think I was "one seriously fucked up individual".

Re: The War on Free Speech

Posted: Fri Aug 30, 2024 12:13 pm
by UNI88
Did donOLD threaten to imprison Zuckerberg in his book, Save America?

Re: The War on Free Speech

Posted: Fri Aug 30, 2024 12:52 pm
by Bobcat
∞∞∞ wrote: Thu Aug 29, 2024 4:19 pm
Bobcat wrote: Thu Aug 29, 2024 4:00 pm

You are one seriously fucked up individual.
Let’s say a Walmart manager knows ten of his customers are running a child porn ring in the store. They even use Walmart’s WiFi and other employees know about it too.

The manager goes, “well it’s not problem they are distributing child porn in my store, as long as I have nothing to do with it. And all you other employees, it’s not your problem too…please continue with your job.”

Now imagine they’ve known for years. The law finally finds out about the ring AND that the manager knew about it for years. What should they do?

This is the scenario with Telegram.

Now imagine yourself as manager…how do YOU handle it?
It's none of my business. Leave it to the authorities I dint do anything wrong so why should I be attacked by cops?

Re: The War on Free Speech

Posted: Fri Aug 30, 2024 2:25 pm
by BDKJMU
Commiela and Walz are taking part in the war on free speech.

Re: The War on Free Speech

Posted: Fri Aug 30, 2024 2:32 pm
by BDKJMU
X just suspended in Brazil.

Re: The War on Free Speech

Posted: Fri Aug 30, 2024 2:35 pm
by BDKJMU

Re: The War on Free Speech

Posted: Fri Aug 30, 2024 3:43 pm
by UNI88
Image

Looks like Zuckerberg is next after Durov.

Re: The War on Free Speech

Posted: Fri Aug 30, 2024 4:10 pm
by kalm
BDKJMU wrote: Fri Aug 30, 2024 2:32 pm X just suspended in Brazil.
Orwell was a socialist. :lol:

Re: The War on Free Speech

Posted: Fri Aug 30, 2024 4:11 pm
by kalm
UNI88 wrote: Fri Aug 30, 2024 3:43 pm Image

Looks like Zuckerberg is next after Durov.
Donnie and Musk are no different. It’s just who they’d choose to silence.

Re: The War on Free Speech

Posted: Fri Aug 30, 2024 4:28 pm
by Bobcat
Neither of them want to silence anyone. Thats why you guys hate em

Re: The War on Free Speech

Posted: Fri Aug 30, 2024 5:24 pm
by UNI88
Bobskat wrote: Fri Aug 30, 2024 4:28 pm Neither of them want to silence anyone. Thats why you guys hate em
If you believe that then I have some oceanfront property near Glendive to sell you. Fantastic views, easy walk to the beach and boardwalk and a great deal.

Re: The War on Free Speech

Posted: Tue Sep 03, 2024 11:05 am
by Bobcat
UNI88 wrote: Fri Aug 30, 2024 5:24 pm
Bobskat wrote: Fri Aug 30, 2024 4:28 pm Neither of them want to silence anyone. Thats why you guys hate em
If you believe that then I have some oceanfront property near Glendive to sell you. Fantastic views, easy walk to the beach and boardwalk and a great deal.
Its proven fact and its on display everyday on Twitter. Everyone gets to play not just the left.

Re: The War on Free Speech

Posted: Tue Sep 03, 2024 11:38 am
by kalm
Bobcat wrote: Tue Sep 03, 2024 11:05 am
UNI88 wrote: Fri Aug 30, 2024 5:24 pm

If you believe that then I have some oceanfront property near Glendive to sell you. Fantastic views, easy walk to the beach and boardwalk and a great deal.
Its proven fact and its on display everyday on Twitter. Everyone gets to play not just the left.
Ever hear of shadow banning and algorithmic coding?

Re: The War on Free Speech

Posted: Tue Sep 03, 2024 11:41 am
by kalm