et tu, Vladimir..?
Posted: Wed Oct 09, 2024 9:25 am
Trump denies report in Bob Woodard's new book that Trump secretly sent Abbot covid test devices to Putin while there was a shortage of them in the US. Putin says its true.... 
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So Vlad is in on it? Because the Russians confirmed it was true.Bobcat wrote: ↑Wed Oct 09, 2024 9:49 am Just like Russia Russia Russia, the Steele Dossier and Hunter Laptop. All proven lies. The left tried to throw shit to the wall and some of it stuck on hdawg.
This is no different, a lefty journalist that hates Trump waited 4 years until right before the election to drop this new lie.
Hdawg is dumb enough to buy it but the rest of the world can see what is going on again. We have 9 years of evidence to know they are lying
Who's lying, trump or Putin?
I never understand this weird obsession with folks on the left going on and on about how Trump was really Putin's puppet. It defies reality given that Trump was pretty antagonistic versus Russia throughout his administration. Now, whether that was Trump's doing or not remains to be seen, but there's no way to spin Trump's time in office as being a boon for Putin and for Russia. There are plenty of reasons not to vote for Trump so it's not like we have to have this Russia/Putin angle to not vote for him. And it really just gives the MAGA's another thing to point to that the left and the mainstream media will twist any story in their drive to stop another Trump term.
This isn’t some secret or conspiracy theory. If you’re unwilling to consider the volumes of well cited and credentialed reporting on this, not to mention Trump and overt love affair with Putin, I can’t help you.GannonFan wrote: ↑Wed Oct 23, 2024 8:17 amI never understand this weird obsession with folks on the left going on and on about how Trump was really Putin's puppet. It defies reality given that Trump was pretty antagonistic versus Russia throughout his administration. Now, whether that was Trump's doing or not remains to be seen, but there's no way to spin Trump's time in office as being a boon for Putin and for Russia. There are plenty of reasons not to vote for Trump so it's not like we have to have this Russia/Putin angle to not vote for him. And it really just gives the MAGA's another thing to point to that the left and the mainstream media will twist any story in their drive to stop another Trump term.
Here's a take from the BBC just yesterday detailing how Russia would likely not want a second Trump term given that the first Trump term was not Russia friendly. I don't think the BBC is pro-Russia or pro-MAGA. But it's a view from outside the two bubbles that exist in our politics here of lately.
https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c4g95r3lnr2o
raging TDSkalm wrote: ↑Wed Oct 23, 2024 8:25 amThis isn’t some secret or conspiracy theory. If you’re unwilling to consider the volumes of well cited and credentialed reporting on this, not to mention Trump and overt love affair with Putin, I can’t help you.GannonFan wrote: ↑Wed Oct 23, 2024 8:17 am
I never understand this weird obsession with folks on the left going on and on about how Trump was really Putin's puppet. It defies reality given that Trump was pretty antagonistic versus Russia throughout his administration. Now, whether that was Trump's doing or not remains to be seen, but there's no way to spin Trump's time in office as being a boon for Putin and for Russia. There are plenty of reasons not to vote for Trump so it's not like we have to have this Russia/Putin angle to not vote for him. And it really just gives the MAGA's another thing to point to that the left and the mainstream media will twist any story in their drive to stop another Trump term.
Here's a take from the BBC just yesterday detailing how Russia would likely not want a second Trump term given that the first Trump term was not Russia friendly. I don't think the BBC is pro-Russia or pro-MAGA. But it's a view from outside the two bubbles that exist in our politics here of lately.
https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c4g95r3lnr2o
Ok, so the BBC is wrong then and are now pro-MAGA. Sure.kalm wrote: ↑Wed Oct 23, 2024 8:25 amThis isn’t some secret or conspiracy theory. If you’re unwilling to consider the volumes of well cited and credentialed reporting on this, not to mention Trump and overt love affair with Putin, I can’t help you.GannonFan wrote: ↑Wed Oct 23, 2024 8:17 am
I never understand this weird obsession with folks on the left going on and on about how Trump was really Putin's puppet. It defies reality given that Trump was pretty antagonistic versus Russia throughout his administration. Now, whether that was Trump's doing or not remains to be seen, but there's no way to spin Trump's time in office as being a boon for Putin and for Russia. There are plenty of reasons not to vote for Trump so it's not like we have to have this Russia/Putin angle to not vote for him. And it really just gives the MAGA's another thing to point to that the left and the mainstream media will twist any story in their drive to stop another Trump term.
Here's a take from the BBC just yesterday detailing how Russia would likely not want a second Trump term given that the first Trump term was not Russia friendly. I don't think the BBC is pro-Russia or pro-MAGA. But it's a view from outside the two bubbles that exist in our politics here of lately.
https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c4g95r3lnr2o
Can you both be right? Can doneOLD have been "pretty antagonistic versus Russia" but also admire and want to please putin?GannonFan wrote: ↑Wed Oct 23, 2024 8:17 amI never understand this weird obsession with folks on the left going on and on about how Trump was really Putin's puppet. It defies reality given that Trump was pretty antagonistic versus Russia throughout his administration. Now, whether that was Trump's doing or not remains to be seen, but there's no way to spin Trump's time in office as being a boon for Putin and for Russia. There are plenty of reasons not to vote for Trump so it's not like we have to have this Russia/Putin angle to not vote for him. And it really just gives the MAGA's another thing to point to that the left and the mainstream media will twist any story in their drive to stop another Trump term.
Here's a take from the BBC just yesterday detailing how Russia would likely not want a second Trump term given that the first Trump term was not Russia friendly. I don't think the BBC is pro-Russia or pro-MAGA. But it's a view from outside the two bubbles that exist in our politics here of lately.
https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c4g95r3lnr2o
Of course both can be right.UNI88 wrote: ↑Wed Oct 23, 2024 8:52 amCan you both be right? Can doneOLD have been "pretty antagonistic versus Russia" but also admire and want to please putin?GannonFan wrote: ↑Wed Oct 23, 2024 8:17 am
I never understand this weird obsession with folks on the left going on and on about how Trump was really Putin's puppet. It defies reality given that Trump was pretty antagonistic versus Russia throughout his administration. Now, whether that was Trump's doing or not remains to be seen, but there's no way to spin Trump's time in office as being a boon for Putin and for Russia. There are plenty of reasons not to vote for Trump so it's not like we have to have this Russia/Putin angle to not vote for him. And it really just gives the MAGA's another thing to point to that the left and the mainstream media will twist any story in their drive to stop another Trump term.
Here's a take from the BBC just yesterday detailing how Russia would likely not want a second Trump term given that the first Trump term was not Russia friendly. I don't think the BBC is pro-Russia or pro-MAGA. But it's a view from outside the two bubbles that exist in our politics here of lately.
https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c4g95r3lnr2o
You could explain doneOLD being willing to throw Ukraine to the russian wolves simple because he's petulant twat and they refused to be coerced into investigating biden for him.