Good article. Of, course it is the drive-by media, so it is riddled with anti-Conk posion...
"To truly succeed at governing, the party needs to create a foundation that has voters believing Republicans want to govern again, not just tear down Democrats or the government "
(Dumbfucks.)
"Things for the Republicans are bad, very bad. It is worse than just about any Republican wants to admit.
The party is defined too much by social issues and the brands of Bush and Cheney, rather than by what some in the party wish to define it by, mainly, limited government, personal freedom and a strong national defense.
One could argue the GOP made no progress on limiting government in their four years of total control, from 2002 to 2006. If anything, government expanded like never before.
From the Medicare prescription drug plan, to the creation of the Department of Homeland Security, and the passage of No Child Left Behind, President Bush presided over a major expansion of the reach of government.
Individually, strong cases can be made for all of these programs. But the big picture is clear for all to see: Under Republican rule, government got bigger and more intrusive.
Which brings us to personal freedoms: From the legislating of morality (Schiavo as the prime example), to the various conservative-led state bans on gay marriage, the Republicans did very little to expand personal freedoms and if anything looked like the party trying to take freedoms away."
Bad, bad Conks! Your base, as defined by the leader of the Republican Party, pictured below, has led you to nothing but ridicule. See you in, oh, 2034!
This is the paragraph that is dead on regarding my opinion.....
All this suburban flight from the Republican Party mirrors another key demographic flight from the party: college educated Americans. Education level is becoming an easier and easier predictor of political allegiance. This is not something Republicans should feel good about. Why? Because the number of voters who have some college education is growing; and at the same time, Democratic performance among these voters is growing. And the suburbs have a good chunk of college-educated residents.
I don't relish being associated with ignorant Republican supporters responding to bumper-sticker political rhetoric like this lady.....
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...and they are becoming more the norm, not the exception in the GOP. If that makes me an elitist, so be it.....
Re: T, Z, Hoagie: Yes, It's THAT Bad For Conks...
Posted: Fri May 15, 2009 8:48 am
by Cap'n Cat
Republicans have always appealed to the GED/no GED crowd. Thinkin' too, that they don't vote in great numbers.
Re: T, Z, Hoagie: Yes, It's THAT Bad For Conks...
Posted: Fri May 15, 2009 8:52 am
by Ibanez
I've voted for Republicans, Democrats,Independents and Libertarians. I think at some point, you look at who is feeding you the better tasting bullshit, and you bite the bullet at the voting booth.
Re: T, Z, Hoagie: Yes, It's THAT Bad For Conks...
Posted: Fri May 15, 2009 8:54 am
by AZGrizFan
The writer of this article should look in the mirror. Donks gleefully tore this country down for 8 years.
Just another example of the donk double standard. Do as I say, not as I do. But perfect for you sheeple.
Re: T, Z, Hoagie: Yes, It's THAT Bad For Conks...
Posted: Fri May 15, 2009 10:50 am
by Cap'n Cat
AZGrizFan wrote:The writer of this article should look in the mirror. Donks gleefully tore this country down for 8 years.
Just another example of the donk double standard. Do as I say, not as I do. But perfect for you sheeple.
Seems Z just picked up the notion of "double standard" in his civics-for-working-adults class down at Desert Caverns Junior College. Shor is using it a lot!
Nobody tore this country down more gleefully than the unrestrained Conks, 2001 to 2009!
Re: T, Z, Hoagie: Yes, It's THAT Bad For Conks...
Posted: Fri May 15, 2009 1:29 pm
by TwinTownBisonFan
Cap'n Cat wrote:
AZGrizFan wrote:The writer of this article should look in the mirror. Donks gleefully tore this country down for 8 years.
Just another example of the donk double standard. Do as I say, not as I do. But perfect for you sheeple.
Seems Z just picked up the notion of "double standard" in his civics-for-working-adults class down at Desert Caverns Junior College. Shor is using it a lot!
Nobody tore this country down more gleefully than the unrestrained Conks, 2001 to 2009!
Re: T, Z, Hoagie: Yes, It's THAT Bad For Conks...
Posted: Fri May 15, 2009 3:05 pm
by AZGrizFan
Cap'n Cat wrote:
AZGrizFan wrote:The writer of this article should look in the mirror. Donks gleefully tore this country down for 8 years.
Just another example of the donk double standard. Do as I say, not as I do. But perfect for you sheeple.
Seems Z just picked up the notion of "double standard" in his civics-for-working-adults class down at Desert Caverns Junior College. Shor is using it a lot!
Nobody tore this country down more gleefully than the unrestrained Conks, 2001 to 2009!
I only use it where it applies, Cappy. It just applies a LOT to donk logic.
Re: T, Z, Hoagie: Yes, It's THAT Bad For Conks...
Posted: Fri May 15, 2009 3:18 pm
by SeattleGriz
Cap'n Cat wrote:"To truly succeed at governing, the party needs to create a foundation that has voters believing Republicans want to govern again, not just tear down Democrats or the government "
Not so fast Cap'n. Seems the party that complains about the others unpopular ideas, are the big winners, if you are to believe this article.
Many Republicans recoil from being combative adversaries of a popular president. They shouldn't. Opposing Obama across-the-board on his sweeping domestic initiatives makes sense on substance and politics. His policies--on spending, taxes, health care, energy, intervention in the economy, etc.--would change the country in ways most Americans don't believe in. That's the substance. And a year or 18 months from now, after those policies have been picked apart and exposed and possibly defeated, the political momentum is likely to have shifted away from Obama and Democrats.
This scenario has occurred time and again. Why
do you think Democrats won the House and Senate in 2006 and bolstered their majorities in 2008? It wasn't because they were more thoughtful, offered compelling alternatives, or had improved their brand. They won because they opposed unpopular policies of President Bush and exploited Republican scandals in Congress. They were highly partisan and not very nice about it.
If Republicans scan their history, they'll discover unbridled opposition to bad Democratic policies pays off. Those two factors, unattractive policies plus strong opposition, were responsible for the Republican landslides in 1938, 1946, 1966, 1980, and 1994. A similar blowout may be beyond the reach of Republicans in 2010, but stranger things have happened in electoral politics. They'll lose nothing by trying.
Let's look at the five landslides. Republicans were crushed in three straight elections before rebounding in 1938. How come? FDR uncorked his court-packing plan, launched a jihad against disloyal Democrats, and was fairly blamed for a new economic downturn (known as "the depression within the depression"). Republicans piled on and won seven Senate and 81 House seats.
In 1946, the public was fed up with wartime regulations that many Democrats were seeking to retain. Republicans asked, "Had enough?" Voters had.
In 1966, voters reacted adversely to the vast Great Society programs enacted after the Democratic triumph in 1964. Republicans, written off as dead, gained 47 House and four Senate seats, eight governorships, and won the presidency two years later.
Ronald Reagan would, in all likelihood, have defeated President Carter in 1980 on his own merit. But public revulsion at Carter's weak foreign policy and disastrous economic record (double-digit inflation and interest rates) produced a landslide that delivered Republicans the Senate as well. Tough Republican critiques of Carterism had played an indispensable role.
Re: T, Z, Hoagie: Yes, It's THAT Bad For Conks...
Posted: Fri May 15, 2009 6:48 pm
by D1B
Cap'n Cat wrote:
AZGrizFan wrote:The writer of this article should look in the mirror. Donks gleefully tore this country down for 8 years.
Just another example of the donk double standard. Do as I say, not as I do. But perfect for you sheeple.
Seems Z just picked up the notion of "double standard" in his civics-for-working-adults class down at Desert Caverns Junior College. Shor is using it a lot!
Nobody tore this country down more gleefully than the unrestrained Conks, 2001 to 2009!
Re: T, Z, Hoagie: Yes, It's THAT Bad For Conks...
Posted: Fri May 15, 2009 6:50 pm
by D1B
AZGrizFan wrote:
Cap'n Cat wrote:
Seems Z just picked up the notion of "double standard" in his civics-for-working-adults class down at Desert Caverns Junior College. Shor is using it a lot!
Nobody tore this country down more gleefully than the unrestrained Conks, 2001 to 2009!
I only use it where it applies, Cappy. It just applies a LOT to donk logic.
Good one! You're a regular Donny Rickels!
Re: T, Z, Hoagie: Yes, It's THAT Bad For Conks...
Posted: Fri May 15, 2009 6:57 pm
by SeattleGriz
D1B wrote:
AZGrizFan wrote:
I only use it where it applies, Hockey-Puck. It just applies a LOT to donk logic.
Good one! You're a regular Donny Rickels!
Now he's Don Rickels
Re: T, Z, Hoagie: Yes, It's THAT Bad For Conks...
Posted: Fri May 15, 2009 7:05 pm
by D1B
SeattleGriz wrote:
D1B wrote:
Good one! You're a regular Donny Rickels!
Now he's Don Rickels
Shut up SeattleGriz.
Re: T, Z, Hoagie: Yes, It's THAT Bad For Conks...
Posted: Fri May 15, 2009 7:10 pm
by AZGrizFan
D1B wrote:
AZGrizFan wrote:
I only use it where it applies, Cappy. It just applies a LOT to donk logic.
Good one! You're a regular Donny Rickels!
Which would make YOU Carol Burnett.
Re: T, Z, Hoagie: Yes, It's THAT Bad For Conks...
Posted: Fri May 15, 2009 7:15 pm
by D1B
AZGrizFan wrote:
D1B wrote:
Good one! You're a regular Donny Rickels!
Which would make YOU Carol Burnett.
Okay
Re: T, Z, Hoagie: Yes, It's THAT Bad For Conks...
Posted: Fri May 15, 2009 7:17 pm
by AZGrizFan
D1B wrote:
AZGrizFan wrote:
Which would make YOU Carol Burnett.
Okay
You don't look so tough to me....
Re: T, Z, Hoagie: Yes, It's THAT Bad For Conks...
Posted: Fri May 15, 2009 8:02 pm
by SeattleGriz
D1B wrote:
SeattleGriz wrote:
Now he's Don Rickels
Shut up SeattleGriz.
Don't hate me because I'm one step ahead of you!
Wait, don't type that response. I already know what you are going to say. The answer is 12.
(The question for those who don't know is: How many fingers can D1B shove up his butt.)
Re: T, Z, Hoagie: Yes, It's THAT Bad For Conks...
Posted: Mon May 18, 2009 1:20 pm
by Cap'n Cat
You guys are funny. I love you all.
Can't wait to stumble outta that airplane in Phoenix come September, shitfaced on 19 gin Bloody Marys and riding on D1B's shoulders!
Re: T, Z, Hoagie: Yes, It's THAT Bad For Conks...
Posted: Mon May 18, 2009 4:04 pm
by Col Hogan
Cap'n Cat wrote:You guys are funny. I love you all.
Can't wait to stumble outta that airplane in Phoenix come September, shitfaced on 19 gin Bloody Marys and riding on D1B's shoulders!
But can he carry you all the way to Flagstaff???
Re: T, Z, Hoagie: Yes, It's THAT Bad For Conks...
Posted: Mon May 18, 2009 7:20 pm
by SeattleGriz
Cap'n Cat wrote:You guys are funny. I love you all.
Can't wait to stumble outta that airplane in Phoenix come September, shitfaced on 19 gin Bloody Marys and riding on D1B's shoulders!
I'll give you a piggyback ride when I see you. The wife and I are planning on being in Flagstaff for the game as well.
Re: T, Z, Hoagie: Yes, It's THAT Bad For Conks...
Posted: Mon May 18, 2009 7:31 pm
by AZGrizFan
SeattleGriz wrote:
Cap'n Cat wrote:You guys are funny. I love you all.
Can't wait to stumble outta that airplane in Phoenix come September, shitfaced on 19 gin Bloody Marys and riding on D1B's shoulders!
I'll give you a piggyback ride when I see you. The wife and I are planning on being in Flagstaff for the game as well.
Say WHAT????
When was THIS decision announced???
Re: T, Z, Hoagie: Yes, It's THAT Bad For Conks...
Posted: Mon May 18, 2009 8:42 pm
by SeattleGriz
AZGrizFan wrote:
SeattleGriz wrote:
I'll give you a piggyback ride when I see you. The wife and I are planning on being in Flagstaff for the game as well.
Say WHAT????
When was THIS decision announced???
We have been talking about going to Phoenix for awhile since we both have family and friends, but finally decided the Griz/Jacks game would be the best time to visit. Now, if I can just enjoy the game, because the grandparents will be watching the kids. Gramps is a little absent minded.
Re: T, Z, Hoagie: Yes, It's THAT Bad For Conks...
Posted: Tue May 19, 2009 6:15 pm
by DJH
Hate? The bitching comes from the Republicans, but the HATE comes from the liberals.
