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On Web site, Moussavi says he's girding himself for 'martydom'

The Facebook page of Iran's top opposition presidential candidate quoted him Saturday as saying he is preparing to die and urging his followers to go on strike if authorities arrest him.


Protesters square off Saturday against police and militia members in Tehran.

1 of 3 more photos » Mir Hossein Moussavi, who has led a protest against the government over last week's election, said he is preparing himself for "martyrdom" and is quoted as telling supporters to "protest" and "not go to work."

The authenticity of the message could not immediately be established.

Security police made "a very large show of force" in midtown and southeastern Tehran, using tear gas and clubs to beat back protesters as clashes erupted during the unrest.

This comes as demonstrators emerged on city streets to protest last week's elections in defiance of supreme leader Ayatollah Ali Khamenei's Friday pronouncement that protests must end.

Police fired guns in the air, and Iran's Press TV also reported the use of water cannons to disperse protesters. Watch police and protesters clash Saturday »

In Washington, President Obama called Saturday for the Iranian government to stop violence and injustice against civilians.


http://www.cnn.com/2009/WORLD/meast/06/ ... index.html

While there is obviously unrest - they need to show more outside of Tehran.

Tehran is overwhelmingly supportive of Moussavi - more than any other place in Iran - of course it's going to be crazy, but it's casting this impression over all of Iran.

DuckDuckGriz wrote:While there is obviously unrest - they need to show more outside of Tehran.

Tehran is overwhelmingly supportive of Moussavi - more than any other place in Iran - of course it's going to be crazy, but it's casting this impression over all of Iran.

Unfortunately, Tehran is about the only place we are getting reports from.

dbackjon wrote:

DuckDuckGriz wrote:While there is obviously unrest - they need to show more outside of Tehran.

Tehran is overwhelmingly supportive of Moussavi - more than any other place in Iran - of course it's going to be crazy, but it's casting this impression over all of Iran.

Unfortunately, Tehran is about the only place we are getting reports from.

Yes that is unfortunate - but of course we'd love to get the impression that Iran is buckling at the knees. I had a friend living in Nairobi two years ago when Kenya was rioting after their election - and I compared the media reports and the general feeling we had to what he was actually seeing - and he was shocked with how sensationalized it was.

DuckDuckGriz wrote:

dbackjon wrote:
Unfortunately, Tehran is about the only place we are getting reports from.

Yes that is unfortunate - but of course we'd love to get the impression that Iran is buckling at the knees. I had a friend living in Nairobi two years ago when Kenya was rioting after their election - and I compared the media reports and the general feeling we had to what he was actually seeing - and he was shocked with how sensationalized it was.

Great audio/video of the night noise in Tehran

http://www.bbc.co.uk/persian/iran/2009/ ... test.shtml

This video isn't for the faint at heart and it was apparently just stuck up at Youtube. It'a a video of a young lady dying in the conflict from what I can tell. I don't know the details of this so forgive me. It's heartbreaking to see this stuff and she is bloody so you may not want to go and look.

Been listening to the news a bit while cooking dinner and it is getting crazy over there. I figured it would be just a matter of time before the protesters and the people in power would clash and it would get bad.

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one ironic thing about the situation is that the government that is putting down these demonstrations is made up of the very people who took to the streets back in 1978 and 1979, which led to the downfall of the Shah...

They have become the oppressors and the people are starting to rise up again...

Col Hogan wrote:one ironic thing about the situation is that the government that is putting down these demonstrations is made up of the very people who took to the streets back in 1978 and 1979, which led to the downfall of the Shah...

They have become the oppressors and the people are starting to rise up again...

No doubt Col. I can't believe the change in 30 yrs. from the same country that overthrew the Shah for being too liberal with the societies values to now going completely back the other way. Letting them come to the conclusion that more liberties for themselves is the way to go on these types of issues.

Just heard a news blip and it said that it is getting worse by the minute over there with no end in sight.

Col Hogan wrote:one ironic thing about the situation is that the government that is putting down these demonstrations is made up of the very people who took to the streets back in 1978 and 1979, which led to the downfall of the Shah...

They have become the oppressors and the people are starting to rise up again...

as the who said so well "meet the new boss, same as the old boss"

as for where it is occurring: there are reports of uprisings in shiraz (which is the second or third largest city)... now those are from twitter... so grain of salt, yes... but thousands of reports are pretty hard to fake

TwinTownBisonFan wrote:

Col Hogan wrote:one ironic thing about the situation is that the government that is putting down these demonstrations is made up of the very people who took to the streets back in 1978 and 1979, which led to the downfall of the Shah...

They have become the oppressors and the people are starting to rise up again...

as the who said so well "meet the new boss, same as the old boss"

as for where it is occurring: there are reports of uprisings in shiraz (which is the second or third largest city)... now those are from twitter... so grain of salt, yes... but thousands of reports are pretty hard to fake

Obama=Bush. You may be onto something here.

And Khomenei and Khamenei sound the same and look the same...

Skjellyfetti wrote:And Khomenei and Khamenei sound the same and look the same...

....and in reality probably ARE the same. Simply a power play.

AZGrizFan wrote:

TwinTownBisonFan wrote:
as the who said so well "meet the new boss, same as the old boss"

as for where it is occurring: there are reports of uprisings in shiraz (which is the second or third largest city)... now those are from twitter... so grain of salt, yes... but thousands of reports are pretty hard to fake

Obama=Bush. You may be onto something here.

I will kiss you on the lips for that one at the Lumberjack Challenge...

Col Hogan wrote:

AZGrizFan wrote:
Obama=Bush. You may be onto something here.

I will kiss you on the lips for that one at the Lumberjack Challenge...

I await your arrival with baited breath.

Ahmadinejad-----what a fuckin' buffoon:

"Definitely by hasty remarks you will not be placed in the circle of friendship with the Iranian nation. Therefore I advise you to correct your interfering stances," Ahmadinejad was quoted as saying.

Robert DeNiro would be disappointed.

AZGrizFan wrote:Ahmadinejad-----what a fuckin' buffoon:

"Definitely by hasty remarks you will not be placed in the circle of friendship with the Iranian nation. Therefore I advise you to correct your interfering stances," Ahmadinejad was quoted as saying.

Robert DeNiro would be disappointed.

I would be pretty torqued too if I couldn't be part of the axis of evils' circle of friendship.

Skjellyfetti wrote:And Khomenei and Khamenei sound the same and look the same...

And you and TwinTownBisonFan sound the same and look the same!

AZGrizFan wrote:

Col Hogan wrote:
I will kiss you on the lips for that one at the Lumberjack Challenge...

I await your arrival with baited breath.

Real funny, azzholes.

You two are a couple rank Conk cvnts. Hope you're proud of yourselves.

Ivytalk wrote:

Skjellyfetti wrote:And Khomenei and Khamenei sound the same and look the same...

And you and TwinTownBisonFan sound the same and look the same!

And Capn' and Ralph are sounding more and more the same these days...