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Anti-American POS Boxer takes offense at being called Ma'am

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This one's just pathetic...I'll let CA Assemblyman Chuck Devore's blog article speak for itself.

http://www.chuckdevore.com/blog.asp?artid=71
What is it about liberals and the military? Why are liberals uncomfortable with the military? Why do some liberals apparently despise our military? Is it because the armed services remind them that not every international dispute can be solved with soothing words uttered by a diplomat? Is it because they view military expenditures as taking money away from greater health and welfare spending?

The latest liberal-military confrontation occurred in a hearing room on Capitol Hill on June 16, 2009 when Brigadier General Michael Walsh called California’s junior senator “Ma’am” – a perfectly acceptable sign of military respect to both a U.S. Senator or a senior female officer. What happened next was remarkable. Barbara Boxer immediately dressed down the general officer, saying, “I had a… You know… do me a favor, could you say ‘Senator’ instead of ‘Ma’am’ – it’s just a thing, I worked so hard to get that title so I’d appreciate it, yes thank you.”

According to the U.S. Army’s own guide to protocol, Members of the U.S. Senate should be verbally addressed as “Sir,” “Ma’am” or “Senator.” So, General Walsh was simply following longstanding tradition.

Ironically, when addressing senior officers, with the exception of generals whom most junior officers and enlisted personnel will call “General,” the most respectful form of address is “Sir” or “Ma’am” with use of the actual rank in address being reserved oftentimes in situations when the senior officer has not yet earned respect from an enlisted person, as in “Yes, Lieutenant!” as opposed to “Yes, Ma’am!”

Of course, this wasn’t Barbara Boxer’s first confrontation with the U.S. military – not by a long shot. Boxer cut her political teeth on the anti-Vietnam war protests around the Bay Area back in the day and never really changed her outlook on the uniformed defenders of the Constitution of the United States. Who can forget her confrontation with American hero Gen. David Petraeus back in 2007 when she called him a liar and then wrote a now laughable blog for the Huffington Post on September 14, 2007 which she headlined, “General Petraeus, Take Off the Rose-Colored Glasses” calling for an immediate end (read: “defeat”) to the war in Iraq.

Perhaps it’s time for the Barbara Boxer to have a new title: “Ex-Senator.”
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...you see...

...what Boxer and the other Uber-libs who feel emboldened to "correct" a Brigadier General don't understand...

...a Brigadier General doesn't collect campaign donations from special interests, lie to the public to get elected, then sit around in walnut paneled offices kibbitzing with their largest donors on ways to line their pockets...

...Brigadier Generals EARN their rank and respect. Here's a brief list of Brig. General Walsh's accomplishments...

Awarded two Bronze Star medals, four Legions of Merit, a Ranger Tab, Parachutist Wings, and a combat patch. Born in Brooklyn, he graduated from the Polytechnic Institute of New York with a bachelor's degree in Civil Engineering, earned a Master's Degree in Construction Management from the University of Florida. He served as the Commander of the Corps Gulf Region Division in Baghdad, Iraq; Commander of the South Atlantic Region in Atlanta, Chief of Staff of USACE in DC, Executive Director of Civil Works in DC, District Commander of the Sacramento District in California, and District Commander of the San Francisco District, also in California.

Yet some self-centered uppity bitch, who has pulled all stops to destroy our nations' military and push environmental legislation so burdensome to industry even SHE admits it will have a "significant" detrimental impact to American business, feels SHE has earned the right to "correct" a Brigadier General?

Boxer's hasn't earned the "right" to shine the General's boots.







(...cue TTBF with the "it's a non-issue" apologism... :roll: )
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I am no apologist, but this is a non issue. Boxer simply doesn't know any military protocol and thought Ma'am is a lower form of salutation than Senator.
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bobbythekidd wrote:I am no apologist, but this is a non issue. Boxer simply doesn't know any military protocol and thought Ma'am is a lower form of salutation than Senator.
While I basically agree with you, the way she addressed it to the General showed both a lack of knowledge of protocol (excusable) and a basic contempt for the military (not excusable)... :twocents:
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Col Hogan wrote:
bobbythekidd wrote:I am no apologist, but this is a non issue. Boxer simply doesn't know any military protocol and thought Ma'am is a lower form of salutation than Senator.
While I basically agree with you, the way she addressed it to the General showed both a lack of knowledge of protocol (excusable) and a basic contempt for the military (not excusable)... :twocents:
Looked the same to me. What a fuckin' bitch. :shake:
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Col Hogan wrote:
bobbythekidd wrote:I am no apologist, but this is a non issue. Boxer simply doesn't know any military protocol and thought Ma'am is a lower form of salutation than Senator.
While I basically agree with you, the way she addressed it to the General showed both a lack of knowledge of protocol (excusable) and a basic contempt for the military (not excusable)... :twocents:
The contempt for the military is to be expected. No shock value in this one. Her ignorance may actually be the bigger story, but it is still a tiny story. :twocents:
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hey T... she's gonna be YOUR Senator until she decides to retire, this changes nothing...

she was polite, asked him nicely, even explained her rationale... it's actually the same as calling a general "sir" when the term of respect is "general"... they've earned it. same as a member of the Senate, who has earned one of the most prestigious titles one can attain.

of course, never underestimate conks making a mountain out of what isn't even a molehill... especially if they can trump it up to further their bullshit about Democrats and the military... yawn.
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On its face, it just looks like an ignorant senator. However, Dennis Prager brings up an interesting point: you would never hear a male senator say what Boxer said. You would also not ever hear President Obama tell someone, "Don't call me sir, call me Mr. President." People would think they had lost their minds.

Here's the full article:

http://jewishworldreview.com/0609/prager062309.php3
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TwinTownBisonFan wrote:hey T... she's gonna be YOUR Senator until she decides to retire, this changes nothing...

she was polite, asked him nicely, even explained her rationale... it's actually the same as calling a general "sir" when the term of respect is "general"... they've earned it. same as a member of the Senate, who has earned one of the most prestigious titles one can attain.

of course, never underestimate conks making a mountain out of what isn't even a molehill... especially if they can trump it up to further their bullshit about Democrats and the military... yawn.
Dude you are really losing a lot of credibility with this shit. How the fuck was she polite about it? She talked to him in an annoyed tone and didn't "offer" an explanation so much as she tried to act like she was Col. Nathan Jessup talking to Kaffee. Jesus Christ if she's gonna steal lines why not take it to the limit?

Senator Boxer: Colonel, we live in a world that has taxes, and those taxes have to be guarded by politicians with false promises. Whose gonna do it? You? You, General Walsh? I have a greater responsibility than you could possibly fathom. You weep for the gays, and you curse the President. You have that luxury. You have the luxury of not knowing what I know. That campaign promises die, while tragic, probably saved political capital. And my existence, while grotesque and incomprehensible to you, saves liberal agendas. You don't want the truth because deep down in places you don't talk about at parties, you want me on that hill, you need me on that hill. We use words like vacation, recess, & tax shelters. We use these words as the backbone of a life spent defending something. You use them as a punchline. I have neither the time nor the inclination to explain myself to a man who rises and sleeps under the blanket of the very socialism that I provide, and then questions the manner in which I provide it. I would rather you just said thank you, and went on your way, Otherwise, I suggest you pick up a Constitution, and stamp on it. Either way, I don't give a damn what you think you are entitled to.

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It isn't a big issue as you have said TTBF, but c'mon man stop acting like what she said and the way she said it showed any sign of respect.
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I am not buying the lack of military knowledge crap. She has been around Washington long enough to know better. She was being a azzhole.

She showed her disdain for the military with her indignation. Boxer was asking for respect in regards to her position without giving consideration to the General for his.
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travelinman67 wrote:This one's just pathetic...I'll let CA Assemblyman Chuck Devore's blog article speak for itself.

http://www.chuckdevore.com/blog.asp?artid=71
What is it about liberals and the military? Why are liberals uncomfortable with the military? Why do some liberals apparently despise our military? Is it because the armed services remind them that not every international dispute can be solved with soothing words uttered by a diplomat? Is it because they view military expenditures as taking money away from greater health and welfare spending?

The latest liberal-military confrontation occurred in a hearing room on Capitol Hill on June 16, 2009 when Brigadier General Michael Walsh called California’s junior senator “Ma’am” – a perfectly acceptable sign of military respect to both a U.S. Senator or a senior female officer. What happened next was remarkable. Barbara Boxer immediately dressed down the general officer, saying, “I had a… You know… do me a favor, could you say ‘Senator’ instead of ‘Ma’am’ – it’s just a thing, I worked so hard to get that title so I’d appreciate it, yes thank you.”

According to the U.S. Army’s own guide to protocol, Members of the U.S. Senate should be verbally addressed as “Sir,” “Ma’am” or “Senator.” So, General Walsh was simply following longstanding tradition.

Ironically, when addressing senior officers, with the exception of generals whom most junior officers and enlisted personnel will call “General,” the most respectful form of address is “Sir” or “Ma’am” with use of the actual rank in address being reserved oftentimes in situations when the senior officer has not yet earned respect from an enlisted person, as in “Yes, Lieutenant!” as opposed to “Yes, Ma’am!”

Of course, this wasn’t Barbara Boxer’s first confrontation with the U.S. military – not by a long shot. Boxer cut her political teeth on the anti-Vietnam war protests around the Bay Area back in the day and never really changed her outlook on the uniformed defenders of the Constitution of the United States. Who can forget her confrontation with American hero Gen. David Petraeus back in 2007 when she called him a liar and then wrote a now laughable blog for the Huffington Post on September 14, 2007 which she headlined, “General Petraeus, Take Off the Rose-Colored Glasses” calling for an immediate end (read: “defeat”) to the war in Iraq.

Perhaps it’s time for the Barbara Boxer to have a new title: “Ex-Senator.”
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...you see...

...what Boxer and the other Uber-libs who feel emboldened to "correct" a Brigadier General don't understand...

...a Brigadier General doesn't collect campaign donations from special interests, lie to the public to get elected, then sit around in walnut paneled offices kibbitzing with their largest donors on ways to line their pockets...

...Brigadier Generals EARN their rank and respect. Here's a brief list of Brig. General Walsh's accomplishments...

Awarded two Bronze Star medals, four Legions of Merit, a Ranger Tab, Parachutist Wings, and a combat patch. Born in Brooklyn, he graduated from the Polytechnic Institute of New York with a bachelor's degree in Civil Engineering, earned a Master's Degree in Construction Management from the University of Florida. He served as the Commander of the Corps Gulf Region Division in Baghdad, Iraq; Commander of the South Atlantic Region in Atlanta, Chief of Staff of USACE in DC, Executive Director of Civil Works in DC, District Commander of the Sacramento District in California, and District Commander of the San Francisco District, also in California.

Yet some self-centered uppity bitch, who has pulled all stops to destroy our nations' military and push environmental legislation so burdensome to industry even SHE admits it will have a "significant" detrimental impact to American business, feels SHE has earned the right to "correct" a Brigadier General?

Boxer's hasn't earned the "right" to shine the General's boots.







(...cue TTBF with the "it's a non-issue" apologism... :roll: )
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General Walsh should have just called her a cunt.....'cause that's what she is.
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