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Religious groups in India have warned they will oppose any move to legalize homosexuality as the federal government prepares to hold talks on a law that classifies same-sex acts as crimes.

India's Hindu nationalist main opposition has in the meantime called for a national debate on the legislation that law minister M. Veerappa Moily last week said would come up for a discussion within the government.

"This is a sensitive issue and warrants a debate within the Indian society at large before arriving at any decision," said Sidharth Nath Singh, spokesman for the opposition Bharatiya Janata Party.

An Indian court is due to give its judgment on a petition filed by a nonprofit group that has challenged the anti-gay provision of the penal code.

In a news conference last week, Moily refused to spell out his government's stand on it because it awaits judicial determination. But his comments that the federal home minister was "contemplating" a meeting with his Cabinet colleagues on the law drew widespread coverage in the largely conservative country.

"Hope floats at rainbow parades," read a caption on a front-page picture from a gay parade in New Delhi in Monday's Times of India newspaper.

"We are against calling homosexuality a criminal activity, but we are certainly in principle against legalizing it, because that would mean the state endorsing same-sex relationships," said Babu Joseph, spokesman for the Catholic Bishops' Conference of India.

Homosexuality "violates fundamental norms of a family," he said.

In his remarks, Kamal Faruqui of India's Muslim Personal Law Board outlined what he said was Islam's position on same-sex unions.

"Islam is totally against it. Islam does not allow any unnatural act. No Muslim in the world, let alone India, can ever support it," Faruqui said.

India's top Sikh administration echoed similar opposition.

"Homosexuality is unnatural," said Sukhdev Singh Bhaur, general secretary of the Shiromani Gurdwara Parbandhak Committee, which administers historical Sikh shrines, mainly in Punjab state. "We oppose any proposal to give legitimacy to such acts," Bhaur added


So pardon me, andy, Joe, etc. Fuck the Indian Catholic bishop, fuck the Muslims, Fuck the Sikhs, Fuck the Hindus.

it's india dude... you can't be surprised when it's not as progressive as other places...

never forget this is a country where the caste system still exists in many ways and locations

TwinTownBisonFan wrote:it's india dude... you can't be surprised when it's not as progressive as other places...

never forget this is a country where the caste system still exists in many ways and locations

Well aware of that - I see that with all of my Indian doctors at my job...

dbackjon wrote:

TwinTownBisonFan wrote:it's india dude... you can't be surprised when it's not as progressive as other places...

never forget this is a country where the caste system still exists in many ways and locations

Well aware of that - I see that with all of my Indian doctors at my job...

And they don't eat cow. (India right?)

grizzaholic wrote:

dbackjon wrote:
Well aware of that - I see that with all of my Indian doctors at my job...

And they don't eat cow. (India right?)

That is right.

the dots have the right idea......

Well, dback, I guess that means a trip to the Taj Mahal is out of the question for this year, eh?

Ivytalk wrote:Well, dback, I guess that means a trip to the Taj Mahal is out of the question for this year, eh?

Like it every WAS an option

dbackjon wrote:Fuck India, and fuck any company that outsources there.
So pardon me, andy, Joe, etc. Fuck the Indian Catholic bishop, fuck the Muslims, Fuck the Sikhs, Fuck the Hindus.

Jon,
This is colossal waste of your valuable time and energy...
Life on life's terms buddy - in other words - I believe your valuable time and energy are better served expressing a positive message with love and understanding...

People respond to "positivity" more enthusiastically than they do to aggressive militant agitators...

Just my 2 cents: I know you're frustrated man

TwinTownBisonFan wrote:it's india dude... you can't be surprised when it's not as progressive as other places...

never forget this is a country where the caste system still exists in many ways and locations

Uhh, it's religion. They're no different than the asshole catholics and christians here or the muslims in Iran - patriarchal society ruled by bronze age religious customs and anti human ethics.

dbackjon wrote:Fuck India, and fuck any company that outsources there.

Religious groups in India have warned they will oppose any move to legalize homosexuality as the federal government prepares to hold talks on a law that classifies same-sex acts as crimes.

India's Hindu nationalist main opposition has in the meantime called for a national debate on the legislation that law minister M. Veerappa Moily last week said would come up for a discussion within the government.

"This is a sensitive issue and warrants a debate within the Indian society at large before arriving at any decision," said Sidharth Nath Singh, spokesman for the opposition Bharatiya Janata Party.

An Indian court is due to give its judgment on a petition filed by a nonprofit group that has challenged the anti-gay provision of the penal code.

In a news conference last week, Moily refused to spell out his government's stand on it because it awaits judicial determination. But his comments that the federal home minister was "contemplating" a meeting with his Cabinet colleagues on the law drew widespread coverage in the largely conservative country.

"Hope floats at rainbow parades," read a caption on a front-page picture from a gay parade in New Delhi in Monday's Times of India newspaper.

"We are against calling homosexuality a criminal activity, but we are certainly in principle against legalizing it, because that would mean the state endorsing same-sex relationships," said Babu Joseph, spokesman for the Catholic Bishops' Conference of India.

Homosexuality "violates fundamental norms of a family," he said.

In his remarks, Kamal Faruqui of India's Muslim Personal Law Board outlined what he said was Islam's position on same-sex unions.

"Islam is totally against it. Islam does not allow any unnatural act. No Muslim in the world, let alone India, can ever support it," Faruqui said.

India's top Sikh administration echoed similar opposition.

"Homosexuality is unnatural," said Sukhdev Singh Bhaur, general secretary of the Shiromani Gurdwara Parbandhak Committee, which administers historical Sikh shrines, mainly in Punjab state. "We oppose any proposal to give legitimacy to such acts," Bhaur added


So pardon me, andy, Joe, etc. Fuck the Indian Catholic bishop, fuck the Muslims, Fuck the Sikhs, Fuck the Hindus.

They ain't perfect, Jon, but they are the world's largest democracy. Would you rather they have a Chinese-like government?

Kind of a lame response, GATW.

Yeah, getting your legs chopped off ain't too bad - could be worse, could've been your head.

Instead of excusing the bigotry, how about a democracy that RESPECTS human rights...

dbackjon wrote:Kind of a lame response, GATW.

Yeah, getting your legs chopped off ain't too bad - could be worse, could've been your head.

Instead of excusing the bigotry, how about a democracy that RESPECTS human rights...

I am so going to kick your ass when I see you next week in Phoenix..!!!
Play nice MR.

LOL @ Cleets coming to phoenix when he knows both me and Z are out of town.

Get your ass to Baltimore Monday night.

dbackjon wrote:Kind of a lame response, GATW.

Yeah, getting your legs chopped off ain't too bad - could be worse, could've been your head.

Instead of excusing the bigotry, how about a democracy that RESPECTS human rights...

I didn't mean to come across like I was excusing it. Like others have said though, it's going to take time for a still-modernizing country like India to get to the point we're at as far as accepting homosexuality, but the fact that they're a democracy means they'll get there faster than if they were a theocracy or dictatorship.

dbackjon wrote:LOL @ Cleets coming to phoenix when he knows both me and Z are out of town.

Get your ass to Baltimore Monday night.

Would you rather know he is coming to town and having him offer to meet up for drinks or have him show up to town for 3 days and call you on the last day telling you that he is about to catch his flight out of town.

grizzaholic wrote:

dbackjon wrote:LOL @ Cleets coming to phoenix when he knows both me and Z are out of town.

Get your ass to Baltimore Monday night.

Would you rather know he is coming to town and having him offer to meet up for drinks or have him show up to town for 3 days and call you on the last day telling you that he is about to catch his flight out of town.

Excellent point, Grizza

grizzaholic wrote:

dbackjon wrote:LOL @ Cleets coming to phoenix when he knows both me and Z are out of town.

Get your ass to Baltimore Monday night.

Would you rather know he is coming to town and having him offer to meet up for drinks or have him show up to town for 3 days and call you on the last day telling you that he is about to catch his flight out of town.

Would you rinse the sand out of your vagina...

Cleets Part 2 wrote:

grizzaholic wrote:
Would you rather know he is coming to town and having him offer to meet up for drinks or have him show up to town for 3 days and call you on the last day telling you that he is about to catch his flight out of town.

Would you rinse the sand out of your vagina...

HEY...I forgot the

Guess they don't like a little curry on their left thumb holes.

dbackjon wrote:**** India, and **** any company that outsources there.

Guess no more Dunkin Doughnuts for you then....

BDKJMU wrote:

dbackjon wrote:**** India, and **** any company that outsources there.

Guess no more Dunkin Doughnuts for you then....

Never stop there anyways