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Toyota's sales have fallen 38 percent in the first six months of the year -- to 770,000 cars and trucks from nearly 1.25 million vehicles in the first six months of 2008. U.S. industry auto sales fell 35 percent in the first half of the year.

I smell another bailout! Apparantly, they need to Citdog selling for them....

UAW ruining another company.

Tis a shame

I buy one vehicle about every decade
and it is the same vehicle every time

The regular old Ford F-150

I'm due for a new one in 2017

ALPHAGRIZ1 wrote:UAW ruing another company.

Tis a shame

But Alfie, without the UAW, how would HS graduate legacy auto workers get middle-class income of +$50/hr with guaranteed OT?....

Appaholic wrote:

ALPHAGRIZ1 wrote:UAW ruing another company.

Tis a shame

But Alfie, without the UAW, how would HS graduate legacy auto workers get middle-class income of +$50/hr with guaranteed OT?....

They'd better be careful. That $$ is getting them perilously close to Obama's TAX HIKE range.

Cleets Part 2 wrote:I buy one vehicle about every decade
and it is the same vehicle every time

The regular old Ford F-150

I'm due for a new one in 2017

Cleets, you should upgrade to the F-250 -- if they still make it in post-Obama America!

Ivytalk wrote:

Cleets Part 2 wrote:I buy one vehicle about every decade
and it is the same vehicle every time

The regular old Ford F-150

I'm due for a new one in 2017

Cleets, you should upgrade to the F-250 -- if they still make it in post-Obama America!

The F-250 is HUGE..!!!
When I was in Boston I had a pet truck (besides my F-150)
I had a gold colored 1971 GMC pick-up that was in really good condition - I loved that old truck

Ooh... this is a nice one..!!!

I will never buy another GM, Chevy, Chrysler or Ford.

I want all my money supporting any other auto company that isnt owned or taking cash from the citizens of the US.

The sooner we get them out of business the quicker we save money.

ALPHAGRIZ1 wrote:I will never buy another GM, Chevy, Chrysler or Ford.

I want all my money supporting any other auto company that isnt owned or taking cash from the citizens of the US.

The sooner we get them out of business the quicker we save money.

Man, Alfie, you're one short-sighted motherfucker. Say the same thing when money went to help Chrylser way back when? My old man bought a Reliant K car right in the middle of that bailout with the expressed purpose of helping Chrysler get back on their feet to help pay back the govt early. Which they did, if you're old enough to recall.

Government helps, they get out.

Cap'n Cat wrote:

ALPHAGRIZ1 wrote:I will never buy another GM, Chevy, Chrysler or Ford.

I want all my money supporting any other auto company that isnt owned or taking cash from the citizens of the US.

The sooner we get them out of business the quicker we save money.

Man, Alfie, you're one short-sighted motherfucker. Say the same thing when money went to help Chrylser way back when? My old man bought a Reliant K car right in the middle of that bailout with the expressed purpose of helping Chrysler get back on their feet to help pay back the govt early. Which they did, if you're old enough to recall.

Government helps, they get out.

I have never owned a Dodge/Chrysler product because of that.

Our politicians are selling out this country to their corporate friends and its BS.

My business doesnt get bailed out if I run it into the ground, why should theirs? GM did nothing to prevent this, they didnt save for a rainy day they just raped and pillaged and I am done supporting them.

Toyota, Infinity and Honda from now on...............

ALPHAGRIZ1 wrote:I have never owned a Dodge/Chrysler product because of that.

Our politicians are selling out this country to their corporate friends and its BS.

My business doesnt get bailed out if I run it into the ground, why should theirs? GM did nothing to prevent this, they didnt save for a rainy day they just raped and pillaged and I am done supporting them.

Toyota, Infinity and Honda from now on...............

Ironic considering the thread title.

I'm thinking my next car will be a Ford Fusion, Ford Escape, or F-150

clenz wrote:I'm thinking my next car will be a Ford Fusion, Ford Escape, or F-150

have heard positive comparisons in terms of quality for the last few years Fusion vs. Toyota Camry. that's high praise...

I drove an Escape for a summer - handles well, doesn't feel tippy, gets good mileage for an suv.

i've heard a lot about Ford vis-a-vis quality improving significantly... that's an obvious good thing.

TwinTownBisonFan wrote:

clenz wrote:I'm thinking my next car will be a Ford Fusion, Ford Escape, or F-150

have heard positive comparisons in terms of quality for the last few years Fusion vs. Toyota Camry. that's high praise...

I drove an Escape for a summer - handles well, doesn't feel tippy, gets good mileage for an suv.

i've heard a lot about Ford vis-a-vis quality improving significantly... that's an obvious good thing.

Sara's aunt works for the Ford plant in Louisville so the family gets good Ford family discounts. Her mother has an Escape and her father has a Fusion, her aunt has a new Focus, and her uncle has a new F150.

I've driven all of them, the Fusion and Escape extensively, and I love them. They are amazing. We are actually taking the Fusion to CO, it gets about 32 MPG

bobbythekidd wrote:

ALPHAGRIZ1 wrote:I have never owned a Dodge/Chrysler product because of that.

Our politicians are selling out this country to their corporate friends and its BS.

My business doesnt get bailed out if I run it into the ground, why should theirs? GM did nothing to prevent this, they didnt save for a rainy day they just raped and pillaged and I am done supporting them.

Toyota, Infinity and Honda from now on...............

Ironic considering the thread title.

Bob, the title is a little misleading. Toyota probably wasn't profitable in its most recent accounting year. Should have been expected based on the economy.

UNI88 wrote:

bobbythekidd wrote: Ironic considering the thread title.

Bob, the title is a little misleading. Toyota probably wasn't profitable in its most recent accounting year. Should have been expected based on the economy.

exactly... none of the automakers were profitable in the last 12 months... no way

I love my black '02 Ford SuperCrew. 192,500 original, all Cap'n Cat miles. Been to California, Montana, Florida and Maine and damned near ever other place in betwixt 'em all. Replaced an alternator, got new brakes and been through three sets o' tires. No other problems. Aimin' for 250,000.

Toyota North American unit sales were down more than 25% in FY09 from FY08. They still sold over 2 million vehicles in North America though.

Cap'n Cat wrote:I love my black '02 Ford SuperCrew. 192,500 original, all Cap'n Cat miles. Been to California, Montana, Florida and Maine and damned near ever other place in betwixt 'em all. Replaced an alternator, got new brakes and been through three sets o' tires. No other problems except that it pollutes more than half a dozen conk owned factories and eats more gas than an Abrams Tank while only creating low paying service station jobs. Aimin' for 250,000.

FIFY

UNI88 wrote:

Cap'n Cat wrote:I love my black '02 Ford SuperCrew. 192,500 original, all Cap'n Cat miles. Been to California, Montana, Florida and Maine and damned near ever other place in betwixt 'em all. Replaced an alternator, got new brakes and been through three sets o' tires. No other problems except that it pollutes more than half a dozen conk owned factories and eats more gas than an Abrams Tank while only creating low paying service station jobs. Aimin' for 250,000.

FIFY

Yeah, she's a gas guzzlin' tank, for certain.



Rarely drive it, however. Drive D1B's Subaru.

We have only Toyotas here at the main headquarters, now apparently no better than the other junk peddlers crap.

I've got 61k miles on my 2007 Fusion - all at 30mpg. Save for the rattle or two, it's a great car. Haven't even had to replace the stock Michelins yet, though that's coming with the next oil change. My grandfather owns the oldest continuously operating Ford dealership in NC, one of the oldest in the country, so my family drives Fords. My wife has a Honda Accord and that's a great car - but it also cost about $5k more than my Fusion, both similarly equipped.

BeauFoster wrote:I've got 61k miles on my 2007 Fusion - all at 30mpg. Save for the rattle or two, it's a great car. Haven't even had to replace the stock Michelins yet, though that's coming with the next oil change. My grandfather owns the oldest continuously operating Ford dealership in NC, one of the oldest in the country, so my family drives Fords. My wife has a Honda Accord and that's a great car - but it also cost about $5k more than my Fusion, both similarly equipped.

Fords are the only cars for Cap'n Cat, though I would certainly buy any American made vehicle.