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Palin Doubles Down on 'Death Panels'

Posted: Thu Aug 13, 2009 7:44 am
by Appaholic
Former Alaska GOP Gov. Sarah Palin defended her claim that the Democratic health care proposal would create “death panels” in a statement Wednesday night slamming President Barack Obama.

“Yesterday President Obama responded to my statement that Democratic health care proposals would lead to rationed care; that the sick, the elderly and the disabled would suffer the most under such rationing; and that under such a system, these ‘unproductive’ members of society could face the prospect of government bureaucrats determining whether they deserve health care,” Palin wrote in a note on her Facebook page.

“The provision that President Obama refers to is Section 1233 of HR 3200, entitled ‘Advance Care Planning Consultation.’ With all due respect, it’s misleading for the president to describe this section as an entirely voluntary provision that simply increases the information offered to Medicare recipients,” she continued.

“Section 1233 authorizes advanced care planning consultations for senior citizens on Medicare every five years, and more often ‘if there is a significant change in the health condition of the individual ... or upon admission to a skilled nursing facility, a long-term care facility... or a hospice program.’"

http://news.yahoo.com/s/politico/200908 ... tico/26078

Re: Palin Doubles Down on 'Death Panels'

Posted: Thu Aug 13, 2009 7:45 am
by Appaholic
FACT CHECK: No 'death panel' in health care bill

WASHINGTON – Former Republican vice presidential candidate Sarah Palin says the health care overhaul bill would set up a "death panel." Federal bureaucrats would play God, ruling on whether ailing seniors are worth enough to society to deserve life-sustaining medical care. Palin and other critics are wrong.

Nothing in the legislation would carry out such a bleak vision. The provision that has caused the uproar would instead authorize Medicare to pay doctors for counseling patients about end-of-life care, if the patient wishes.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090811/ap_ ... f_life_q_a

Re: Palin Doubles Down on 'Death Panels'

Posted: Thu Aug 13, 2009 7:49 am
by danefan
haha. At what point does the media stop reporting what this woman has to say?

How long until she ends up a talk show host on Fox News in the 11pm slot?

Re: Palin Doubles Down on 'Death Panels'

Posted: Thu Aug 13, 2009 7:56 am
by ALPHAGRIZ1
Palin has more balls than any of the men in Congress.

She stands up and tells it like it is and she is right.

Re: Palin Doubles Down on 'Death Panels'

Posted: Thu Aug 13, 2009 7:59 am
by ASUMountaineer
ALPHAGRIZ1 wrote:Palin has more balls than any of the men in Congress.

She stands up and tells it like it is and she is right.
:rofl: :rofl: You betcha! :rofl: :rofl:

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Re: Palin Doubles Down on 'Death Panels'

Posted: Thu Aug 13, 2009 8:18 am
by Benne
Appaholic wrote:FACT CHECK: No 'death panel' in health care bill

WASHINGTON – Former Republican vice presidential candidate Sarah Palin says the health care overhaul bill would set up a "death panel." Federal bureaucrats would play God, ruling on whether ailing seniors are worth enough to society to deserve life-sustaining medical care. Palin and other critics are wrong.

Nothing in the legislation would carry out such a bleak vision. The provision that has caused the uproar would instead authorize Medicare to pay doctors for counseling patients about end-of-life care, if the patient wishes.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090811/ap_ ... f_life_q_a
Since when did facts matter. This place is a fcuking zoo.

Re: Palin Doubles Down on 'Death Panels'

Posted: Thu Aug 13, 2009 8:24 am
by Appaholic
Benne wrote:
Appaholic wrote:FACT CHECK: No 'death panel' in health care bill

WASHINGTON – Former Republican vice presidential candidate Sarah Palin says the health care overhaul bill would set up a "death panel." Federal bureaucrats would play God, ruling on whether ailing seniors are worth enough to society to deserve life-sustaining medical care. Palin and other critics are wrong.

Nothing in the legislation would carry out such a bleak vision. The provision that has caused the uproar would instead authorize Medicare to pay doctors for counseling patients about end-of-life care, if the patient wishes.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090811/ap_ ... f_life_q_a
Since when did facts matter. This place is a fcuking zoo.
So, I take it you're not in agreement with the Fact Check?

Re: Palin Doubles Down on 'Death Panels'

Posted: Thu Aug 13, 2009 8:29 am
by Appaholic
ALPHAGRIZ1 wrote:Palin has more balls than any of the men in Congress.

She stands up and tells it like it is and she is right.
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Re: Palin Doubles Down on 'Death Panels'

Posted: Thu Aug 13, 2009 8:30 am
by Benne
Appaholic wrote:
Benne wrote:
Since when did facts matter. This place is a fcuking zoo.
So, I take it you're not in agreement with the Fact Check?
Love fact check, wish more people used it. I'm mearly suggesting that we are living in a time that if you whine loud enough, that trumps facts.

Re: Palin Doubles Down on 'Death Panels'

Posted: Thu Aug 13, 2009 8:31 am
by Appaholic
Benne wrote:
Appaholic wrote:
So, I take it you're not in agreement with the Fact Check?
Love fact check, wish more people used it. I'm mearly suggesting that we are living in a time that if you whine loud enough, that trumps facts.
You are so true....it's a shame....our culture of fear allows the white noise to drown out rational thought....

Re: Palin Doubles Down on 'Death Panels'

Posted: Thu Aug 13, 2009 8:46 am
by AZGrizFan
Appaholic wrote:
Benne wrote:
Love fact check, wish more people used it. I'm mearly suggesting that we are living in a time that if you whine loud enough, that trumps facts.
You are so true....it's a shame....our culture of fear allows the white noise to drown out rational thought....
that's a large assumption. :coffee: :coffee:

Re: Palin Doubles Down on 'Death Panels'

Posted: Thu Aug 13, 2009 8:50 am
by Appaholic
AZGrizFan wrote:
Appaholic wrote:
You are so true....it's a shame....our culture of fear allows the white noise to drown out rational thought....
that's a large assumption. :coffee: :coffee:
what? the rational thought? I was kind of hoping you never get to hear from the rational folks. Guess all the idiots getting air time to sh!t out of their mouth really are representative of the population as a whole...

Re: Palin Doubles Down on 'Death Panels'

Posted: Thu Aug 13, 2009 8:51 am
by ALPHAGRIZ1
I will believe fact check when you start believing the Heritage Foundation.

Deal?

Re: Palin Doubles Down on 'Death Panels'

Posted: Thu Aug 13, 2009 8:53 am
by Appaholic
ALPHAGRIZ1 wrote:I will believe fact check when you start believing the Heritage Foundation.

Deal?
I believe neither as they all have an agenda.....but I would believe either of them before anything Palin formulated and espoused \knowledge about outside of the score of the Wasilla JV hockey team....

Re: Palin Doubles Down on 'Death Panels'

Posted: Thu Aug 13, 2009 10:13 am
by polsongrizz
Appaholic wrote: Palin formulated and espoused knowledge of the score of the Wasilla JV hockey team....
Code for, the whole hockey team has actually scored Hat Tricks with Palindrone and Daughters. :o :nod:

Re: Palin Doubles Down on 'Death Panels'

Posted: Thu Aug 13, 2009 10:18 am
by hank scorpio
Like I said yesterday, and now I know I was correct:
Georgia Sen. Johnny Isakson, a Republican who co-sponsored a similar measure in the Senate, said it was "nuts" to claim the bill encourages euthanasia.

"You're putting the authority in the individual rather than the government," Isakson said. "I don't know how that got so mixed up."
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/32403916/ns ... itol_hill/

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John Hardy "Johnny" Isakson (born December 28, 1944), is an American politician, who has been the Republican junior United States Senator from Georgia since 2005. Previously, he represented Georgia's 6th Congressional district in the House from 1999 to 2005.
Isakson has been given an "A" rating by the National Rifle Association, the "Hero of the Taxpayer" award by Citizens Against Government Waste, and a "92" rating on a scale of 100 by the Christian Coalition of America (incidentally, the same score Mac Collins received). He also received a "100" rating from the American Conservative Union. National Journal recently rated him the 7th most conservative Senator in the Senate.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Johnny_Isakson

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Re: Palin Doubles Down on 'Death Panels'

Posted: Thu Aug 13, 2009 10:30 am
by danefan
hank scorpio wrote:Like I said yesterday, and now I know I was correct:
Georgia Sen. Johnny Isakson, a Republican who co-sponsored a similar measure in the Senate, said it was "nuts" to claim the bill encourages euthanasia.

"You're putting the authority in the individual rather than the government," Isakson said. "I don't know how that got so mixed up."
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/32403916/ns ... itol_hill/

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John Hardy "Johnny" Isakson (born December 28, 1944), is an American politician, who has been the Republican junior United States Senator from Georgia since 2005. Previously, he represented Georgia's 6th Congressional district in the House from 1999 to 2005.
Isakson has been given an "A" rating by the National Rifle Association, the "Hero of the Taxpayer" award by Citizens Against Government Waste, and a "92" rating on a scale of 100 by the Christian Coalition of America (incidentally, the same score Mac Collins received). He also received a "100" rating from the American Conservative Union. National Journal recently rated him the 7th most conservative Senator in the Senate.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Johnny_Isakson

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But but but....I thought Sarah Palin was the voice of the Conservative Republicans. :geek:

Re: Palin Doubles Down on 'Death Panels'

Posted: Thu Aug 13, 2009 10:35 am
by ASUMountaineer
danefan wrote:
hank scorpio wrote:Like I said yesterday, and now I know I was correct:



http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/32403916/ns ... itol_hill/

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Johnny_Isakson

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But but but....I thought Sarah Palin was the voice of the Conservative Republicans. :geek:
Conservative Republicans is an oxy moron. :nod: (IE: Alfie)

Re: Palin Doubles Down on 'Death Panels'

Posted: Thu Aug 13, 2009 10:41 am
by AZGrizFan
Appaholic wrote:
AZGrizFan wrote:
that's a large assumption. :coffee: :coffee:
what? the rational thought? I was kind of hoping you never get to hear from the rational folks. Guess all the idiots getting air time to sh!t out of their mouth really are representative of the population as a whole...
That's some wishful thinkin' there, Appa. :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

Re: Palin Doubles Down on 'Death Panels'

Posted: Thu Aug 13, 2009 11:32 am
by Wedgebuster
Face it folks, she is the standard bearer for the remnants of the old Republican Party, the craziest remnant, the "Retardlicans." Unless the super innovative Republicans can hurry up and brush the dust and rust off another Bush, she will be their nominee.

:nod:

Re: Palin Doubles Down on 'Death Panels'

Posted: Thu Aug 13, 2009 12:47 pm
by houndawg
ALPHAGRIZ1 wrote:Palin has more balls than any of the men in Congress.

She stands up and tells it like it is and she is right.

Jeezus, kid, you sound like T'man with his brains beaten out. :rofl:

Re: Palin Doubles Down on 'Death Panels'

Posted: Thu Aug 13, 2009 1:40 pm
by AZGrizFan
Wedgebuster wrote:Face it folks, she is the standard bearer for the remnants of the old Republican Party, the craziest remnant, the "Retardlicans." Unless the super innovative Republicans can hurry up and brush the dust and rust off another Bush, she will be their nominee.

:nod:
Me thinks not. She's got about as much chance of being the Republican nominee as the Hildabeast does of being the Donk nominee in 2012. ZERO.

Re: Palin Doubles Down on 'Death Panels'

Posted: Thu Aug 13, 2009 2:13 pm
by Wedgebuster
AZGrizFan wrote:
Wedgebuster wrote:Face it folks, she is the standard bearer for the remnants of the old Republican Party, the craziest remnant, the "Retardlicans." Unless the super innovative Republicans can hurry up and brush the dust and rust off another Bush, she will be their nominee.

:nod:
Me thinks not. She's got about as much chance of being the Republican nominee as the Hildabeast does of being the Donk nominee in 2012. ZERO.
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Re: Palin Doubles Down on 'Death Panels'

Posted: Thu Aug 13, 2009 2:16 pm
by bobbythekidd
AZGrizFan wrote:Me thinks not. She's got about as much chance of being the Republican nominee as the Hildabeast does of being the Donk nominee in 2012. ZERO.
Captain Ahab? Is that you? :?: :lol: