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It seems unlikely that US taxpayers will recoup their tax dollars from the auto bailouts... Not a surprise...

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/co ... 04072.html

Nobody with a brain stem (translation: conservatives) thought we'd EVER recoup that money. Only the koolaid drinkers believe that line of bullshit.

Great! So, we're not getting our money back and people who had legitimate cause to sue GM for safety issues are screwed as well due to bankruptcy....buy Ford.

Appaholic wrote:Great! So, we're not getting our money back and people who had legitimate cause to sue GM for safety issues are screwed as well due to bankruptcy....buy Toyota.

FIFY.

Don't forget all the people that had a preferred interest getting screwed.

AZGrizFan wrote:

Appaholic wrote:Great! So, we're not getting our money back and people who had legitimate cause to sue GM for safety issues are screwed as well due to bankruptcy....buy Toyota.

FIFY.

I don't own their stock....yet...

Appaholic wrote:

AZGrizFan wrote:
FIFY.

I don't own their stock....yet...

I don't either, but I own TWO of their products. And haven owned 10 in my lifetime of driving.

AZGrizFan wrote:

Appaholic wrote:
I don't own their stock....yet...

I don't either, but I own TWO of their products. And haven owned 10 in my lifetime of driving.

Sounds like my Honda....just clicked 219k....need to replace battery (stranded me at grocery store last night for about 10mins)....japs can build a fokking car....

AZGrizFan wrote:

Appaholic wrote:Great! So, we're not getting our money back and people who had legitimate cause to sue GM for safety issues are screwed as well due to bankruptcy....buy Toyota.

FIFY.

Toyota? NO WAY! The unrepentant Toyo Kogyo corporation still has blood on its hands from unacknowledged WWII atrocities.

bobbythekidd wrote:Don't forget all the people that had a preferred interest getting screwed.

...for blatant political reasons by an administration unconstitutionally picking the winners and losers.

Appaholic wrote:

AZGrizFan wrote:
I don't either, but I own TWO of their products. And haven owned 10 in my lifetime of driving.

Sounds like my Honda....just clicked 219k....need to replace battery (stranded me at grocery store last night for about 10mins)....japs can build a fokking car....

Honda!

Mr. Honda was never part of the Zaibatsu conglomerate system which actively supported Japanese atrocities in WWII.

native wrote:

AZGrizFan wrote:
FIFY.

Toyota? NO WAY! The unrepentant Toyo Kogyo corporation still has blood on its hands from unacknowledged WWII atrocities.

...& the Werhmacht rolled through Europe powered by GM & Ford motors....it's globalization...

I just bought a 2009 4Runner Sport. I love it.

I needed something that I can get serviced in Vietnam and South Africa.

As for the atrocities, I'd call it even if they would just stop bellyaching and playing the victims over Hiroshima.