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Barry silences dissenters
Posted: Wed Sep 23, 2009 7:00 pm
by Hansel
The federal government resorted to bullying tactics when it ordered an investigation of Humana -- one of the country's biggest private insurers -- for its decision to send customers a letter alerting them about pending health reform legislation, a leading Republican charged Wednesday.
U.S. health officials launched the probe after the Louisville-based company mailed a letter to patients enrolled in its Medicare Advantage plans -- private options that replace standard Medicare -- warning that President Obama's health overhaul could eliminate important benefits of the program.
Humana said in its letter that if Medicare Advantage funding gets cut, "millions of seniors and disabled individuals ... could lose many of the important benefits and services that make Medicare Advantage health plans so valuable."
Obama has insisted that despite planned cuts to Medicare providers, seniors would not see their benefits reduced under a health care overhaul. But CBO Director Douglas Elmendorf contradicted that Tuesday under questioning by Finance Committee Republicans, saying seniors in the private Medicare Advantage plans could see reduced benefits under Baucus' legislation. Proposed changes "would reduce the extra benefits that would be made available to beneficiaries through Medicare Advantage plans," Elmendorf said.
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2009/09 ... -provider/
Re: Barry silences dissenters
Posted: Wed Sep 23, 2009 7:12 pm
by Wedgebuster
Good, time to shut those American hating assholes up. Should have just shot 'em or sent 'em to Gitmo.
Re: Barry silences dissenters
Posted: Wed Sep 23, 2009 7:18 pm
by Skjellyfetti
Hansel wrote:The federal government resorted to bullying tactics when it ordered an investigation of Humana -- one of the country's biggest private insurers -- for its decision to send customers a letter alerting them about pending health reform legislation, a leading Republican charged Wednesday.
U.S. health officials launched the probe after the Louisville-based company mailed a letter to patients enrolled in its Medicare Advantage plans -- private options that replace standard Medicare -- warning that President Obama's health overhaul could eliminate important benefits of the program.
Humana said in its letter that if Medicare Advantage funding gets cut, "millions of seniors and disabled individuals ... could lose many of the important benefits and services that make Medicare Advantage health plans so valuable."
Obama has insisted that despite planned cuts to Medicare providers, seniors would not see their benefits reduced under a health care overhaul. But CBO Director Douglas Elmendorf contradicted that Tuesday under questioning by Finance Committee Republicans, saying seniors in the private Medicare Advantage plans could see reduced benefits under Baucus' legislation. Proposed changes "would reduce the extra benefits that would be made available to beneficiaries through Medicare Advantage plans," Elmendorf said.
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2009/09 ... -provider/
"Barry" has nothing to do with this. The investigation was ordered through Centers for Medicare and Medicaid Services by Max Baucus.
Humana is misusing government mailing lists of Medicare recipients to spread their rumors. That's what the investigation is looking into.
Re: Barry silences dissenters
Posted: Wed Sep 23, 2009 10:49 pm
by Chizzang
Skjellyfetti wrote:
"Barry" has nothing to do with this. The investigation was ordered through Centers for Medicare and Medicaid Services by Max Baucus.
Humana is misusing government mailing lists of Medicare recipients to spread their rumors. That's what the investigation is looking into.
It's Obama..!!!
He's behind this whole thing - with his bare hands he's killing the elderly right now..!!!
Can no one stop this mad man..!!!
Re: Barry silences dissenters
Posted: Thu Sep 24, 2009 5:02 am
by Hansel
Skjellyfetti wrote:
"Barry" has nothing to do with this. The investigation was ordered through Centers for Medicare and Medicaid Services by Max Baucus.
The CMS is part of DHHS, and was who issued the gag order telling Humana to stop mailing its own clients. Obama has not named a CMS administrator yet- so who do you think is running it.
Skjellyfetti wrote:
Humana is misusing government mailing lists of Medicare recipients to spread their rumors. That's what the investigation is looking into.
Humana mailed a letter to patients enrolled in its Medicare Advantage plans, private options that replace standard Medicare. I would think Humana should be allowed to mail their own customers.
But CBO Director Douglas Elmendorf contradicted that Tuesday under questioning by Finance Committee Republicans, saying seniors in the private Medicare Advantage plans could see reduced benefits under Baucus' legislation. Proposed changes "would reduce the extra benefits that would be made available to beneficiaries through Medicare Advantage plans," Elmendorf said.
Re: Barry silences dissenters
Posted: Thu Sep 24, 2009 6:47 am
by BlueHen86
Chizzang wrote:Skjellyfetti wrote:
"Barry" has nothing to do with this. The investigation was ordered through Centers for Medicare and Medicaid Services by Max Baucus.
Humana is misusing government mailing lists of Medicare recipients to spread their rumors. That's what the investigation is looking into.
It's Obama..!!!
He's behind this whole thing - with his bare hands he's killing the elderly right now..!!!
Can no one stop this mad man..!!!
Obama is making me type this post right now...

Re: Barry silences dissenters
Posted: Thu Sep 24, 2009 7:08 am
by CID1990
Chizzang wrote:Skjellyfetti wrote:
"Barry" has nothing to do with this. The investigation was ordered through Centers for Medicare and Medicaid Services by Max Baucus.
Humana is misusing government mailing lists of Medicare recipients to spread their rumors. That's what the investigation is looking into.
It's Obama..!!!
He's behind this whole thing - with his bare hands he's killing the elderly right now..!!!
Can no one stop this mad man..!!!
That sounds vaguely familiar.
Re: Barry silences dissenters
Posted: Thu Sep 24, 2009 7:12 am
by Appaholic
Hansel wrote:
But CBO Director Douglas Elmendorf contradicted that Tuesday under questioning by Finance Committee Republicans, saying seniors in the private Medicare Advantage plans could see reduced benefits under Baucus' legislation. Proposed changes "would reduce the extra benefits that would be made available to beneficiaries through Medicare Advantage plans," Elmendorf said.
So, the rugged individualists currently receiving socialized medical care from the government will be mad if the "Socialist" President tries to decrease their current subsidies in an effort to provide socialized medicine to another citizen demographic?
Re: Barry silences dissenters
Posted: Thu Sep 24, 2009 8:40 am
by CitadelGrad
Appaholic wrote:Hansel wrote:
But CBO Director Douglas Elmendorf contradicted that Tuesday under questioning by Finance Committee Republicans, saying seniors in the private Medicare Advantage plans could see reduced benefits under Baucus' legislation. Proposed changes "would reduce the extra benefits that would be made available to beneficiaries through Medicare Advantage plans," Elmendorf said.
So, the rugged individualists currently receiving socialized medical care from the government will be mad if the "Socialist" President tries to decrease their current subsidies in an effort to provide socialized medicine to another citizen demographic?
That sounds about right. The Dems have finally won. Everyone is dependent upon the gubmint teet and all the constituencies are fighting it out for the longest suck on the teet. This is exactly what the Founders had in mind.
Re: Barry silences dissenters
Posted: Thu Sep 24, 2009 8:45 am
by AZGrizFan
Chizzang wrote:Skjellyfetti wrote:
"Barry" has nothing to do with this. The investigation was ordered through Centers for Medicare and Medicaid Services by Max Baucus.
Humana is misusing government mailing lists of Medicare recipients to spread their rumors. That's what the investigation is looking into.
It's Obama..!!!
He's behind this whole thing - with his bare hands he's killing the elderly right now..!!!
Can no one stop this mad man..!!!
Good to see you finally coming around, Cleets.

Re: Barry silences dissenters
Posted: Thu Sep 24, 2009 9:07 am
by Skjellyfetti
Hansel wrote: The CMS is part of DHHS, and was who issued the gag order telling Humana to stop mailing its own clients. Obama has not named a CMS administrator yet- so who do you think is running it.
Um, yeah he has. Her name is Charlene Frizzera.
http://www.cms.hhs.gov/CMSLeadership/08 ... #TopOfPage

Re: Barry silences dissenters
Posted: Thu Sep 24, 2009 10:04 am
by andy7171
CID1990 wrote:Chizzang wrote:
It's Obama..!!!
He's behind this whole thing - with his bare hands he's killing the elderly right now..!!!
Can no one stop this mad man..!!!
That sounds vaguely familiar.
I agree.

Re: Barry silences dissenters
Posted: Thu Sep 24, 2009 10:06 am
by AZGrizFan
andy7171 wrote:CID1990 wrote:
That sounds vaguely familiar.
I agree.

It only applies one way. Just like every other double standard the donks apply.

Re: Barry silences dissenters
Posted: Thu Sep 24, 2009 10:53 am
by Appaholic
CitadelGrad wrote:Appaholic wrote:
So, the rugged individualists currently receiving socialized medical care from the government will be mad if the "Socialist" President tries to decrease their current subsidies in an effort to provide socialized medicine to another citizen demographic?
That sounds about right. The Dems have finally won. Everyone is dependent upon the gubmint teet and all the constituencies are fighting it out for the longest suck on the teet. This is exactly what the Founders had in mind.
Recent Town Hall Meeting.....

Re: Barry silences dissenters
Posted: Thu Sep 24, 2009 10:55 am
by AZGrizFan
Appaholic wrote:CitadelGrad wrote:
That sounds about right. The Dems have finally won. Everyone is dependent upon the gubmint teet and all the constituencies are fighting it out for the longest suck on the teet. This is exactly what the Founders had in mind.
Recent Town Hall Meeting.....

The one on the LEFT teet is the democrat. The one on the RIGHT teet is the republican.

Re: Barry silences dissenters
Posted: Thu Sep 24, 2009 2:16 pm
by CitadelGrad
AZGrizFan wrote:Appaholic wrote:
Recent Town Hall Meeting.....

The one on the LEFT teet is the democrat. The one on the RIGHT teet is the republican.

Sad, but true.
Appaholic's post is what I love about CS. On AGS that pic would have earned him a ban of many months, if not a lifetime.
Re: Barry silences dissenters
Posted: Thu Sep 24, 2009 3:51 pm
by Cap'n Cat
CitadelGrad wrote:AZGrizFan wrote:
The one on the LEFT teet is the democrat. The one on the RIGHT teet is the republican.

Sad, but true.
Appaholic's post is what I love about CS. On AGS that pic would have earned him a ban of many months, if not a lifetime.
I remember that pic being posted on AGS quite a bit and not coming down...before Ralph started menopause.
Re: Barry silences dissenters
Posted: Thu Sep 24, 2009 4:22 pm
by CitadelGrad
I said that Cap'n Cat wouldn't come back to AGS unless it was to give ralph an atomic wedgie. That got me 10 penalty points and a month-long ban from MOD33. It was regarded as a personal attack. On whom, I don't know.
Re: Barry silences dissenters
Posted: Thu Sep 24, 2009 5:50 pm
by Chizzang
CitadelGrad wrote:I said that Cap'n Cat wouldn't come back to AGS unless it was to give ralph an atomic wedgie. That got me 10 penalty points and a month-long ban from MOD33. It was regarded as a personal attack. On whom, I don't know.
you were attacking their moral high ground...

Re: Barry silences dissenters
Posted: Thu Sep 24, 2009 6:02 pm
by CitadelGrad
If they do have a moral high ground, it's somewhere in the Mariana Trench.
Re: Barry silences dissenters
Posted: Thu Sep 24, 2009 6:37 pm
by Col Hogan
CitadelGrad wrote:If they do have a moral high ground, it's somewhere in the Mariana Trench.
Lower...