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Serious flaws found in war contractor oversight
Defense auditors uncover at least $6 billion in questionable charges

The children of Reagan, Cheney, Weinberger, Rummy, Dubya..........

WASHINGTON - During a routine check of a watch tower at a U.S. military base in Kuwait, an Army sergeant found the guard leaning back in a chair, his sunglasses on, apparently sound asleep. When the soldier woke the guard, an employee of a defense contractor named Combat Support Associates, he denied he'd dozed off while on duty.

"It's so weird that I can close my eyes for one second and then you appear out of nowhere," the guard said, according to the sergeant's March 2008 inspection report.


The episode illustrates the problems between the U.S. armed forces and the industrial army supporting military operations in Iraq and Afghanistan. Demand for contractor services is heavy, while oversight of their work isn't. That means problems often aren't discovered until long after the payments have been made.

Eye-popping numbers
A major trouble spot is the business systems and procedures that companies use to bill the government. The numbers are eye-popping. Defense auditors have found at least $6 billion in questionable charges generated by sloppy accounting or, worse, contractors trying to bilk the military.



This photo, provided in response to a Freedom of Information Act request for documents about the performance of defense contractor Combat Support Associates, was taken by U.S. military personnel in March, 2008. The picture, which was digitally altered to remove the guard's name, was included in an inspection report and shows a for-hire guard asleep in a watch tower at a U.S. military base in Kuwait.

"Oh, yeah, Condi, that's it. SNORE! Work my cock. Yeah!! SNORE!"



Man, "welfare queens" don't waste a fraction of that sh*t!!!


Shame, CONKS!!!

Duh...
We're going to throw money into that sink-hole for 100 more years now... face it Bush and Cheney got exactly what they wanted = the perfect War for Profit scenario...


On a lighter note:
Jeezus they misplaced $10 Billion dollars in IRAQ making ACRON look like a bunch of rank amateurs when it come to taking public funds and stealing them

Talk about "silence"!

Hey, Conks, where are you??????

Baldy, Z? naive?

Cap'n Cat wrote:Talk about "silence"!

Hey, Conks, where are you??????

Baldy, Z? naive?

OK I'll take the bait.

The guard in question looks kinda young in the picture, so I should say congratulations to your brother for at least trying to get a job! Sorry things didn't work out. Now we know why he is unemployed.

A piece of advice to d1b: don't try to get out of it when you get caught red-handed like that.

As for Cleets, we are damm lucky he is neither an accountant nor a judge. Stick with physics.

Did anyone wish to have a serious discussion of public corruption related to defense contracts, or do you just want to throw some shit back and forth?

This is the problem with having "right-sized" the military during Clinton's abortion and then expect them to fight two protracted wars.

If we had MILITARY people standing those watches, we could courtmartial the FUCK out of them, and send them to Leavenworth. That's a bit more incentive than "Hey man, WAKE UP!"

So, in conclusion, I Blame Clinton for this.

AZGrizFan wrote:This is the problem with having "right-sized" the military during Clinton's abortion and then expect them to fight two protracted wars.

If we had MILITARY people standing those watches, we could courtmartial the FUCK out of them, and send them to Leavenworth. That's a bit more incentive than "Hey man, WAKE UP!"

So, in conclusion, I Blame Clinton for this.

Gee, what a shock.

Cap'n Cat wrote:Talk about "silence"!

Hey, Conks, where are you??????

Baldy, Z? naive?

Let's see....

Gross generalization.....check

Name calling....check






What's there to discuss?????

For the record, I am against all public corruption and any fraud, waste and abuse of public funds or the public trust.

...and just in case God, in His infinite wisdom, should cause cap or d1 to have some sort of epiphany...

native wrote:For the record, I am against all public corruption and any fraud, waste and abuse of public funds or the public trust.

...and just in case God, in His infinite wisdom, should cause cap or d1 to have some sort of epiphany...

Sounds like you're running for office....

Corruption is corruption and doesnt need an "R" or a "D" behind it.

It happens on both sides of the isle and the people responsible should be prosecuted for it.

I love how the media labels everyone now:

Right wing Vegetarian
Left wing Gun Nut
Left wing Homo
Right wing Christian

ALPHAGRIZ1 wrote: Right wing Vegetarian
Left wing Gun Nut
Left wing Homo
Right wing Christian

Reminds me of a song...

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native wrote:For the record, I am against all public corruption and any fraud, waste and abuse of public funds or the public trust.

...and just in case God, in His infinite wisdom, should cause cap or d1 to have some sort of epiphany...

Who is for it?

Cap'n Cat wrote:http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/33205803/ns ... -military/

Serious flaws found in war contractor oversight
Defense auditors uncover at least $6 billion in questionable charges

The children of Reagan, Cheney, Weinberger, Rummy, Dubya..........

WASHINGTON - During a routine check of a watch tower at a U.S. military base in Kuwait, an Army sergeant found the guard leaning back in a chair, his sunglasses on, apparently sound asleep. When the soldier woke the guard, an employee of a defense contractor named Combat Support Associates, he denied he'd dozed off while on duty.

"It's so weird that I can close my eyes for one second and then you appear out of nowhere," the guard said, according to the sergeant's March 2008 inspection report.


The episode illustrates the problems between the U.S. armed forces and the industrial army supporting military operations in Iraq and Afghanistan. Demand for contractor services is heavy, while oversight of their work isn't. That means problems often aren't discovered until long after the payments have been made.

Eye-popping numbers
A major trouble spot is the business systems and procedures that companies use to bill the government. The numbers are eye-popping. Defense auditors have found at least $6 billion in questionable charges generated by sloppy accounting or, worse, contractors trying to bilk the military.



This photo, provided in response to a Freedom of Information Act request for documents about the performance of defense contractor Combat Support Associates, was taken by U.S. military personnel in March, 2008. The picture, which was digitally altered to remove the guard's name, was included in an inspection report and shows a for-hire guard asleep in a watch tower at a U.S. military base in Kuwait.

"Oh, yeah, Condi, that's it. SNORE! Work my cock. Yeah!! SNORE!"



Man, "welfare queens" don't waste a fraction of that sh*t!!!


Shame, CONKS!!!

Tell me about it, or better yet, tell Democrat John Murtha. I worked on a project that was traced back to him and it's under review for Fraud, Waste and Abuse as well as Misappropriation of Funds. Biggest fraud was with Kuchera (who had the prime contractor).

http://www.crewsmostcorrupt.org/summaries/murtha.php

http://rawstory.com/08/news/2009/09/16/ ... ress-list/

native wrote:

Cap'n Cat wrote:Talk about "silence"!

Hey, Conks, where are you??????

Baldy, Z? naive?

OK I'll take the bait.

The guard in question looks kinda young in the picture, so I should say congratulations to your brother for at least trying to get a job! Sorry things didn't work out. Now we know why he is unemployed.

A piece of advice to d1b: don't try to get out of it when you get caught red-handed like that.

As for Cleets, we are damm lucky he is neither an accountant nor a judge. Stick with physics.

Did anyone wish to have a serious discussion of public corruption related to defense contracts, or do you just want to throw some shit back and forth?

Appaholic wrote:

native wrote:For the record, I am against all public corruption and any fraud, waste and abuse of public funds or the public trust.

...and just in case God, in His infinite wisdom, should cause cap or d1 to have some sort of epiphany...

Sounds like you're running for office....

Clearly not. The "God" thing gave it away, especially capitalization of the word, "His." That kind of verbiage won't fly for an aspiring politician.

Cap'n Cat wrote:

native wrote:
OK I'll take the bait.

The guard in question looks kinda young in the picture, so I should say congratulations to your brother for at least trying to get a job! Sorry things didn't work out. Now we know why he is unemployed.

A piece of advice to d1b: don't try to get out of it when you get caught red-handed like that.

As for Cleets, we are damm lucky he is neither an accountant nor a judge. Stick with physics.

Did anyone wish to have a serious discussion of public corruption related to defense contracts, or do you just want to throw some **** back and forth?

Thank you for the refreshing honesty, Cap.

there are some crickets in here. I am the only one to post information about contracting and I get crickets.

MarkCCU wrote:there are some crickets in here. I am the only one to post information about contracting and I get crickets.

When I was on active duty, in charge of a Fleet Introduction Team for a $125M aircraft "block upgrade" program, I was constantly badgered by a contractor who overtly threw John Murtha's name around and threatened me (in a nice way, but a threat, nonetheless) to make sure his company's equipment was included in the upgrade.

It was not.

What a scumbag!

I complained, and my boss supported me in NOT including the unneeded equipment in the upgrade, but that was as far as it went.

MarkCCU wrote:there are some crickets in here. I am the only one to post information about contracting and I get crickets.

In a later assignment as CIO of a large government organization, my boss had approved a multi-million dollar spend plan for our information technology and development programs. After he spent a couple of hours one afternoon with Congressman Livingston, at that time chair of the House Ways and Means Committee, our plan was changed and we were forced into some sub-optimal architectural decisions.

A couple of years following the tour as CIO, when I complained about the performance of the system residing on the sub-optimal architecture at a commanding officer's conference, for some reason I subsequently received lower marks on my fitness report and did not get the next promotion.

Go figure!

This thread makes me sick to my stomach....
So many dead young men (on both sides) so the previous administration can reap financial rewards and the US can be mired in a 100 year war for profit...

Bush's cabinet members stock portfolios hitting triple digit gains as boys bleed to death in the sand

Truly the devils work...

Cleets Part 2 wrote:This thread makes me sick to my stomach....
So many dead young men (on both sides) so the previous administration can reap financial rewards and the US can be mired in a 100 year war for profit...

Bush's cabinet members stock portfolios hitting triple digit gains as boys bleed to death in the sand

Truly the devils work...

You have not made a case for your proposition, only thrown a bunch of conspiracy shit on the wall. It is sooo disconnected. Do you really believe your own hyperbolic busllshit, or do you just want to joust a little?

Yeah, I was the lead logistician on a program backed by Murtha and when MARCORSYSCOM (Marine Corps System Command) asked about the status of retro fixing of the system and it's future, I told my boss it is a lost cause. Me, the lead Software Engineer and Project Engineer said it should be scrapped. Of course, the next day I was told I was insubordinate, demoted and put on a different project. 10 months later, they took my suggestions to heart and have scrapped the multi-million program.

native, on duty:

Waste is waste, and should be prosecuted.


What is telling, though, is the free pass that corrupt companies like Haliburton get, while ACORN gets nailed.

NO bias there, right?


And Murtha is a scumbag.

BiPartisan Post

dbackjon wrote:Waste is waste, and should be prosecuted.


What is telling, though, is the free pass that corrupt companies like Haliburton get, while ACORN gets nailed.

NO bias there, right?


And Murtha is a scumbag.

BiPartisan Post

Reppies. Conks owned again.

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