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Cap'n Cat wrote:What follows is my opinion. A damned fvcking good opinion it is, too, might I say.

1. This was the culmination of a vote for hope, as a guest on Morning Joe said this morning. Though she did not necessarily agree with the award because Obama's efforts haven't born much in the way of tangible results as of yet, but she is absolutely correct and, I believe, representative of the silent majority on this. The award shows that in this (from a homeland perspective, mostly Conk-induced) shitty state the world looks like it is still looking to America for leadership. Remember the gigantic sigh of relief when that fvck Bush was finally replaced in January? This is one result.

2. Related to the above, and think about this, thick-skulled Conks, there ain't another leader in the world doing ANYTHING to relieve tensions around the world. No courage whatsoever. Obama went to Cairo and addressed the Muslim world, talking of a new beginning and of peace and respect. Reaction was very positive.
NO ONE has done anything like that. Not Putin/Medvedev, not Merkel, not Nicolas Sarkozy, not Netanyahu, not Wen Jiabao, NO ONE has done a thing to make the world more peaceful, except for Obama. The first talks with our "arch enemy", Iran, in 30 years have started, initiated by Obama. The North Korea issue, though not resolved, has calmed.

3. The award is further proof of just how shitty things became under the Cheney adminsitration. He and his puppet, Bush, and their henchmen, Rummy and Condi, et al, had brought us to the brink of world conflict...and they did it with a smirk, all in the name of uberpatriotism, such that the world was mortally offended and disgusted with THAT America.

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Obama may be seen by some (Conks) as stumbling around domestically, faced with domestic issues that have not been seen since the 1930's, but the man is a world leader on the grandest scale and is working hard to make the globe a livable place free of conflict.

He deserves this award and more power to him. He could be a seven time winner.

Conks/Racists should be ashamed, too, of their negative contribution to world peace and should embrace this man, a genuine American and, now, world leader.

Cap'n Cat wrote:...there are a couple things this supporter is not completely happy with.

1. Fortitude. Don't waffle and compromise with those Conk fvcks on anything. You're the boss, they're over a barrel. Fvck 'em right in the ass. Now. Need inspiration, listen to Limbaugh's radio show for a coupla days.

2. Speed. Close down Guantanamo, NOW! You said you'd do it, so DO IT! No more analyzing and compromising, you had three years to fvcking analyze ****, do it!

3. Gays. Dash DADT to pieces, now! You're the boss, do it!

4. Wars. Get the fvck outta Afghaniraq and Iraqistan! You said you'd do it, now do it! It's one of the reasons I voted for you! Don't prove the Conks right about campaign promises not manifesting into action.

5. Economy. Alright, we know already, you inherited this sh*t. Now, do something else about it cuz it's your 800 lb gorilla!!!

6. 800 lb gorillas. make Michelle wear a bag over her scowlin'-ass mug. Sheeit!



Bottom line, I wanna see the action I voted for, not vacillation and compromise and "thorough" analysis. We've been analyzing those motherfvckin' wars for six fvcking years!!!

Cap'n Cat wrote:What follows is my opinion. A damned fvcking good opinion it is, too, might I say.

1. This was the culmination of a vote for hope, as a guest on Morning Joe said this morning. Though she did not necessarily agree with the award because Obama's efforts haven't born much in the way of tangible results as of yet, but she is absolutely correct and, I believe, representative of the silent majority on this. The award shows that in this (from a homeland perspective, mostly Conk-induced) shitty state the world looks like it is still looking to America for leadership. Remember the gigantic sigh of relief when that fvck Bush was finally replaced in January? This is one result.

ASUG8 wrote:Reppies, Monarch

Cap'n, everything you mentioned happened after the nomination date - even still, they were just words, not tangible results. Barry has demonstrated his gift of oratory, I'd just like to see something substantive come from all his bellowing. There are at least a dozen or more people who have actually accomplished something over the last year rather than TALKING about accomplishing something. I agree he's set a different tone for the US, but he hasn't actually DONE anything. Completely undeserved IMHO.

Wake me in 4 yrs - I'm taking a soma holiday.

Ivytalk wrote:

Gotta love that post! Setting up "Putin/Medvedev" for a straw man argument, claiming that it's a European apology for dumping on us so much for 8 years, bragging about more sure-to-be-empty rounds of talks with the Iranians and the NorKors. Cap'n, you slay me!

wkuhillhound wrote:

ASUG8 wrote:Reppies, Monarch

Cap'n, everything you mentioned happened after the nomination date - even still, they were just words, not tangible results. Barry has demonstrated his gift of oratory, I'd just like to see something substantive come from all his bellowing. There are at least a dozen or more people who have actually accomplished something over the last year rather than TALKING about accomplishing something. I agree he's set a different tone for the US, but he hasn't actually DONE anything. Completely undeserved IMHO.

Wake me in 4 yrs - I'm taking a soma holiday.

If the substantive results do come, would you like it? I highly doubt it.

wkuhillhound wrote:

ASUG8 wrote:Reppies, Monarch

Cap'n, everything you mentioned happened after the nomination date - even still, they were just words, not tangible results. Barry has demonstrated his gift of oratory, I'd just like to see something substantive come from all his bellowing. There are at least a dozen or more people who have actually accomplished something over the last year rather than TALKING about accomplishing something. I agree he's set a different tone for the US, but he hasn't actually DONE anything. Completely undeserved IMHO.

Wake me in 4 yrs - I'm taking a soma holiday.

If the substantive results do come, would you like it? I highly doubt it.

Ivytalk wrote:

Gotta love that post! Setting up "Putin/Medvedev" for a straw man argument, claiming that it's a European apology for dumping on us so much for 8 years, bragging about more sure-to-be-empty rounds of talks with the Iranians and the NorKors. Cap'n, you slay me!

Ursus A. Horribilis wrote:He won it because he's not George Bush, that is about all there is to it. That would be like giving the Oscar to Patrick Swayze because he ain't Keanu Reeves.

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Rob Iola wrote:

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FIFY

ASUG8 wrote:

wkuhillhound wrote:
If the substantive results do come, would you like it? I highly doubt it.

Hey, I didn't vote for the man, but there are a lot of more deserving folks/organizations out there than BHO - agree?
IF BHO can back up what he's talking about he'll deserve some credit - I may not like it, but likely because I don't agree with some of his stances on things. I don't disagree with the guy because he's black if that's where you're going - I disagree with him because we don't see eye to eye on all issues. People of color shouldn't be enamored with him simply because they share a skin tone either but that's my opinion.

wkuhillhound wrote:

Rob Iola wrote: FIFY

I rest my case. It wouldn't matter what he did.

death dealer wrote:Couldn't they have waited to see what he actually accomplishes? If he does accomlish bringing peace to the ME, and aids in bringing the two Koreas closer, and reestablishes multilateral diplomacy on the world stage (of course, you can't have diplomacy with terrorist groups or failed states), then he may have been the most deserving in a couple of years. My biggest question is why the rush? Seems a little premature. It's apparently a fairly widespread opinion. All the commentators on both sides seem to be in agreement on that. To their credit, even this administration seems to feel this way, based on their tepid response to the award so far. What it does do is throw down the gauntlet. This is their way of saying to Obama, "you better get to work to earn this or you are going to look like even more of a failure." It's kind of a shitty thing to do to the guy, basically puts even more pressure and a brighter spotlight on him and his lack of results so far.