Furman cuts baseball and lacrosse

[CitadelGrad]

https://www.greenvilleonline.com/story/ ... fiSRP-t9kg

[AshevilleApp]

Wrestling?

[CID1990]

They cut baseball and lacrosse


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[CitadelGrad]

I was thinking of another school that cut wrestling.

[CID1990]

I was thinking of another school that cut wrestling.

How do you confuse such a shitty school with any other?


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[Ivytalk]

So they didn’t cut any chick sports?

[89Hen]

Buddy of mine's son went there this year to play lax. F. Or FU.

[Pwns]

IMO, most DI schools have no business being over the minimum number of sports to compete in DI unless you have a niche sport that makes a decent amount of money. Probably a step in the right direction, but why baseball? Come on, your in the SoCon and in a hot-weather region.

[GannonFan]

IMO, most DI schools have no business being over the minimum number of sports to compete in DI unless you have a niche sport that makes a decent amount of money. Probably a step in the right direction, but why baseball? Come on, your in the SoCon and in a hot-weather region.

Sadly, that's the reality. What do these sports bring to these schools in reality anyway? Most of these sports lose money, most only bring a small fraction of kids onto campus as part of these teams (to counter the "diversifies the campus" argument), and most of these sports go relatively unwatched by the schools they represent. So if they lose money, no one knows they're there, and no one watches these games, what do these sports really add to the university?

[89Hen]

https://www.athleticdirectoru.com/artic ... it-matter/

[CitadelGrad]

IMO, most DI schools have no business being over the minimum number of sports to compete in DI unless you have a niche sport that makes a decent amount of money. Probably a step in the right direction, but why baseball? Come on, your in the SoCon and in a hot-weather region.

That would pretty much reduce every athletic dept. in the country to football and men's basketball. Of course, Title IX would require a couple of women's sports, as well.

[dbackjon]

IMO, most DI schools have no business being over the minimum number of sports to compete in DI unless you have a niche sport that makes a decent amount of money. Probably a step in the right direction, but why baseball? Come on, your in the SoCon and in a hot-weather region.

That would pretty much reduce every athletic dept. in the country to football and men's basketball. Of course, Title IX would require a couple of women's sports, as well.

Minimum for DI is 14, 16 if you play FBS

[CitadelGrad]

That would pretty much reduce every athletic dept. in the country to football and men's basketball. Of course, Title IX would require a couple of women's sports, as well.

Minimum for DI is 14, 16 if you play FBS

I know. I was referring to the economic aspect of it. Football and men's basketball are the only profitable sports. The rest leech from those two sports.

[dbackjon]

Minimum for DI is 14, 16 if you play FBS

I know. I was referring to the economic aspect of it. Football and men's basketball are the only profitable sports. The rest leech from those two sports.

There are only a handful of schools that make money on Football outside the P5. Probably a larger list for basketball, but I doubt Furman basketball makes money.

[GannonFan]

I know. I was referring to the economic aspect of it. Football and men's basketball are the only profitable sports. The rest leech from those two sports.

There are only a handful of schools that make money on Football outside the P5. Probably a larger list for basketball, but I doubt Furman basketball makes money.

But I would argue that at least for football and/or basketball, at least some people actually do show up to watch those games other than parents and friends of the people playing the games. Generally speaking (and I know there are niches for everything - wrestling in the Midwest, baseball in the south, a specific popular sport for a particular college here and there) it is mainly friends and family for plenty of the other sports. Why do they even exist then? I would do away with the specific minimum - which is really there just to make it expensive and therefore trying to keep D1 sports the province of the either rich schools or the schools that will bleed money just to be in D1. Let the sports stand on their own - if a school really wants a tennis team, leave it up to them. Same with golf, same with cross country, etc. If there are schools willing to have these sports, rather than using them as counters to get to the 15 minimum, then great, have them. Otherwise, just focus on the few sports the school is actually good at and also the sports that people actually know about and care enough about to show up and see them every now and then.

[dbackjon]

There are only a handful of schools that make money on Football outside the P5. Probably a larger list for basketball, but I doubt Furman basketball makes money.

But I would argue that at least for football and/or basketball, at least some people actually do show up to watch those games other than parents and friends of the people playing the games. Generally speaking (and I know there are niches for everything - wrestling in the Midwest, baseball in the south, a specific popular sport for a particular college here and there) it is mainly friends and family for plenty of the other sports. Why do they even exist then? I would do away with the specific minimum - which is really there just to make it expensive and therefore trying to keep D1 sports the province of the either rich schools or the schools that will bleed money just to be in D1. Let the sports stand on their own - if a school really wants a tennis team, leave it up to them. Same with golf, same with cross country, etc. If there are schools willing to have these sports, rather than using them as counters to get to the 15 minimum, then great, have them. Otherwise, just focus on the few sports the school is actually good at and also the sports that people actually know about and care enough about to show up and see them every now and then.

Then why have sports at all?

[CitadelGrad]

But I would argue that at least for football and/or basketball, at least some people actually do show up to watch those games other than parents and friends of the people playing the games. Generally speaking (and I know there are niches for everything - wrestling in the Midwest, baseball in the south, a specific popular sport for a particular college here and there) it is mainly friends and family for plenty of the other sports. Why do they even exist then? I would do away with the specific minimum - which is really there just to make it expensive and therefore trying to keep D1 sports the province of the either rich schools or the schools that will bleed money just to be in D1. Let the sports stand on their own - if a school really wants a tennis team, leave it up to them. Same with golf, same with cross country, etc. If there are schools willing to have these sports, rather than using them as counters to get to the 15 minimum, then great, have them. Otherwise, just focus on the few sports the school is actually good at and also the sports that people actually know about and care enough about to show up and see them every now and then.

Then why have sports at all?

Because most college towns are boring as fuck without them. Just imagine State College, PA, West Lafayette, IN, Tuscaloosa, AL, Lawrence, KS, Lincoln, NE and Champaign, Il without them.

[Skjellyfetti]

Those towns would be boring without universities... but, not boring without just college sports.

I live in one of those towns and have only been to a couple of football and basketball games. There's plenty to do besides sports. If there was no university here, it would be boring as hell, though.

[CitadelGrad]

Those towns would be boring without universities... but, not boring without just college sports.

I live in one of those towns and have only been to a couple of football and basketball games. There's plenty to do besides sports. If there was no university here, it would be boring as hell, though.

Those towns wouldn't even exist without the universities. It's the sports tourism that brings in the fans and their $$$.

[Skjellyfetti]

All of those towns existed before the university was founded with the exception of State College. They'd exist, we just wouldn't have heard of them. They'd be like a Rantoul, IL or a Eutaw, AL.

[89Hen]

All of those towns existed before the university was founded with the exception of State College. They'd exist, we just wouldn't have heard of them. They'd be like a Rantoul, IL or a Eutaw, AL.

+1

Except everyone has heard of Eutaw.

[GannonFan]

But I would argue that at least for football and/or basketball, at least some people actually do show up to watch those games other than parents and friends of the people playing the games. Generally speaking (and I know there are niches for everything - wrestling in the Midwest, baseball in the south, a specific popular sport for a particular college here and there) it is mainly friends and family for plenty of the other sports. Why do they even exist then? I would do away with the specific minimum - which is really there just to make it expensive and therefore trying to keep D1 sports the province of the either rich schools or the schools that will bleed money just to be in D1. Let the sports stand on their own - if a school really wants a tennis team, leave it up to them. Same with golf, same with cross country, etc. If there are schools willing to have these sports, rather than using them as counters to get to the 15 minimum, then great, have them. Otherwise, just focus on the few sports the school is actually good at and also the sports that people actually know about and care enough about to show up and see them every now and then.

Then why have sports at all?

Like I said, have the ones that people actually do care about. In very few places is there a need or an interest in a college golf team. And there are plenty of sports just like that that very few people even know those teams exist. Keep the few that people do care about.

[BDKJMU]

That would pretty much reduce every athletic dept. in the country to football and men's basketball. Of course, Title IX would require a couple of women's sports, as well.

Minimum for DI is 14, 16 if you play FBS

That is correct. Also minimum of 6 men's either way.

Back a doz+ years ago, when JMU dropped a # of sports (including wrestling), I thought the then minimum required was 17, but not totally sure..I just remember hearing then that JMU with 6 mens'/11 womens' was at the minimum...