Pac-10 fires first salvo?

[danefan]

Regarding semi-pro...

Only a few of the FBS teams make money now. How the hell they going to afford to pay players?

And no way in hell do schools like LA-Monroe, Idaho, etc have any type of money to pay players.

Paying players is a slippery slope that I would bet all schools not named USC/Texas/Florida would like to avoid

At this point it would look that way but you know if they roll down this road then they are gonna model some of the moves they make after how the NFL has marketed and then who knows how the money will shake out?

I actually was just thinking more of the 4 super conferences though when ruminating.

Yes, I am only thinking of the semi-pro BCS league with the SEC/Pac 16/Big 16 and perhaps the ACC 16 as shown above.

[danefan]

Federal aid certainly does give Congress a lot of leaway, but Federal Aid and the NCAA are mutually exclusive concepts.

What do you mean when you say "the NCAA provides a framework for schools to meet Title IX requirements?"

They are, but if too many schools are left on the outside, you will see howling.

The NCAA (and NAIA) by sponsoring sports, setting scholarship guidelines, etc provide the framework for schools to show that they are in Title IX compliance.

I don't think those actions really provide the framework for being Title IX compliant. But even if they do, those guidelines can easily be replicated by a new governing body that mirrors the NCAA in that regard.

[dbackjon]

At this point it would look that way but you know if they roll down this road then they are gonna model some of the moves they make after how the NFL has marketed and then who knows how the money will shake out?

I actually was just thinking more of the 4 super conferences though when ruminating.

Yes, I am only thinking of the semi-pro BCS league with the SEC/Pac 16/Big 16 and perhaps the ACC 16 as shown above.

They gotta play somebody...unless they just play themselves only, or non-semipro teams are willing to REALLY take a beating for cash.

[danefan]

Yes, I am only thinking of the semi-pro BCS league with the SEC/Pac 16/Big 16 and perhaps the ACC 16 as shown above.

They gotta play somebody...unless they just play themselves only, or non-semipro teams are willing to REALLY take a beating for cash.

16 x 3 = 48 teams
16 x 4 = 64 teams

Plenty of teams to fill a schedule, that would likely include multiple intra-divisional games like the NFL. I wouldn't expect to see games against the remaining NCAA teams though.

[dbackjon]

They gotta play somebody...unless they just play themselves only, or non-semipro teams are willing to REALLY take a beating for cash.

16 x 3 = 48 teams
16 x 4 = 64 teams

Plenty of teams to fill a schedule, that would likely include multiple intra-divisional games like the NFL. I wouldn't expect to see games against the remaining NCAA teams though.

Which would mean each team only gets 6 home games, versus the 8 that most of the big guys have today. Loss of 2 home games is millions of dollars to the big guys.

[danefan]

16 x 3 = 48 teams
16 x 4 = 64 teams

Plenty of teams to fill a schedule, that would likely include multiple intra-divisional games like the NFL. I wouldn't expect to see games against the remaining NCAA teams though.

Which would mean each team only gets 6 home games, versus the 8 that most of the big guys have today. Loss of 2 home games is millions of dollars to the big guys.

Scheduling gives me headaches, but I assume your analysis is based on a 12 game season. I would imagine they'd expand to at least a 14 or 15 game season.

[Ursus A. Horribilis]

16 x 3 = 48 teams
16 x 4 = 64 teams

Plenty of teams to fill a schedule, that would likely include multiple intra-divisional games like the NFL. I wouldn't expect to see games against the remaining NCAA teams though.

Which would mean each team only gets 6 home games, versus the 8 that most of the big guys have today. Loss of 2 home games is millions of dollars to the big guys.

Loss of home games in the NFL must be horrendous then also? If they set it up so they are basincally one group that shares revenues then it isn't gonna matter as much. The whole of the thing will offset those few home games lost.

They may not be moving that way but I wouldn't be surprised to see it if this all comes to fruition and you see 4 16 team conferences. It may take a while but they may get there.

[Ursus A. Horribilis]

Which would mean each team only gets 6 home games, versus the 8 that most of the big guys have today. Loss of 2 home games is millions of dollars to the big guys.

Scheduling gives me headaches, but I assume your analysis is based on a 12 game season. I would imagine they'd expand to at least a 14 or 15 game season.

I was thinking they would get to more games as well.

[Ursus A. Horribilis]

Scheduling for 14 would be very easy in the 2 division 4 conference scenario also. You could play your normal 1/2 and then one team from each of the other 1/2 divisions.

[dbackjon]

Which would mean each team only gets 6 home games, versus the 8 that most of the big guys have today. Loss of 2 home games is millions of dollars to the big guys.

Scheduling gives me headaches, but I assume your analysis is based on a 12 game season. I would imagine they'd expand to at least a 14 or 15 game season.

Yes - based on 12-game schedule. I really think you will see a lot of resistance to going much beyond that from a number of schools.

And I can't see a NFL style revenue sharing. If anything, you are going to end up with an exagerated version of MLB, with teams being even more bottom feeders than they are now.

Hopefully the Presidents are smart enough to realize that they could end up killing college athletics completely if they get too greedy.

[Ursus A. Horribilis]

Scheduling gives me headaches, but I assume your analysis is based on a 12 game season. I would imagine they'd expand to at least a 14 or 15 game season.

Yes - based on 12-game schedule. I really think you will see a lot of resistance to going much beyond that from a number of schools.

And I can't see a NFL style revenue sharing. If anything, you are going to end up with an exagerated version of MLB, with teams being even more bottom feeders than they are now.

Hopefully the Presidents are smart enough to realize that they could end up killing college athletics completely if they get too greedy.

Could happen but I wouldn't bank on that.

[bandl]

Scheduling gives me headaches, but I assume your analysis is based on a 12 game season. I would imagine they'd expand to at least a 14 or 15 game season.

Yes - based on 12-game schedule. I really think you will see a lot of resistance to going much beyond that from a number of schools.

And I can't see a NFL style revenue sharing. If anything, you are going to end up with an exagerated version of MLB, with teams being even more bottom feeders than they are now.

Hopefully the Presidents are smart enough to realize that they could end up killing college athletics completely if they get too greedy.

If the IVY LEAGUE (they are supposedly to be smarterer than the rest of us peeple, right?) presidents aren't smart enough to realize the added benefit of letting their schools participate in the FCS playoffs, what makes you think these presidents have any sense, or care, as to what is beneficial to their college athletes??

[dbackjon]

Yes - based on 12-game schedule. I really think you will see a lot of resistance to going much beyond that from a number of schools.

And I can't see a NFL style revenue sharing. If anything, you are going to end up with an exagerated version of MLB, with teams being even more bottom feeders than they are now.

Hopefully the Presidents are smart enough to realize that they could end up killing college athletics completely if they get too greedy.

If the IVY LEAGUE (they are supposedly to be smarterer than the rest of us peeple, right?) presidents aren't smart enough to realize the added benefit of letting their schools participate in the FCS playoffs, what makes you think these presidents have any sense, or care, as to what is beneficial to their college athletes??

Ivy League is just plain stubborness Ivory Tower shit

[bandl]

If the IVY LEAGUE (they are supposedly to be smarterer than the rest of us peeple, right?) presidents aren't smart enough to realize the added benefit of letting their schools participate in the FCS playoffs, what makes you think these presidents have any sense, or care, as to what is beneficial to their college athletes??

Ivy League is just plain stubborness Ivory Tower shit

Agreed...and stubborness often times simply equates to outright stupidity and/or ignorance