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This column does a good job of explaining why.
http://www.johnziegler.com/editorials_d ... torial=219
However, despite what you have heard in the news media, there are also some very significant problems with the report itself and, at least at this point, there is still a whole lot more speculative smoke than actual evidentiary fire in its findings.
The most glaring omission in the report is that Freeh did speak to any of the primary witnesses in the case. Not Paterno. Not Tim Curley. Not Mike McQueary (whom he referred to as “McQuade” in the press conference). Not Jerry Sandusky.
Secondly, Freeh seems to promise far more in his press release/conclusions than he actually delivers in real evidence. Most of the media of course, at best, only read the summary and not the actual report. Thanks to that, it appears that most people have no idea that the real evidence backing up Freeh’s conclusions is, given the strong language he uses, remarkably thin.
http://www.johnziegler.com/editorials_d ... torial=219
However, despite what you have heard in the news media, there are also some very significant problems with the report itself and, at least at this point, there is still a whole lot more speculative smoke than actual evidentiary fire in its findings.
The most glaring omission in the report is that Freeh did speak to any of the primary witnesses in the case. Not Paterno. Not Tim Curley. Not Mike McQueary (whom he referred to as “McQuade” in the press conference). Not Jerry Sandusky.
Secondly, Freeh seems to promise far more in his press release/conclusions than he actually delivers in real evidence. Most of the media of course, at best, only read the summary and not the actual report. Thanks to that, it appears that most people have no idea that the real evidence backing up Freeh’s conclusions is, given the strong language he uses, remarkably thin.
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Re: The Freeh Report is a hatchet job
Another apologist. Excellent. 

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Re: The Freeh Report is a hatchet job
Good luck talking to Paterno. Mums the word.CitadelGrad wrote:This column does a good job of explaining why.
http://www.johnziegler.com/editorials_d ... torial=219
However, despite what you have heard in the news media, there are also some very significant problems with the report itself and, at least at this point, there is still a whole lot more speculative smoke than actual evidentiary fire in its findings.
The most glaring omission in the report is that Freeh did speak to any of the primary witnesses in the case. Not Paterno. Not Tim Curley. Not Mike McQueary (whom he referred to as “McQuade” in the press conference). Not Jerry Sandusky.
Secondly, Freeh seems to promise far more in his press release/conclusions than he actually delivers in real evidence. Most of the media of course, at best, only read the summary and not the actual report. Thanks to that, it appears that most people have no idea that the real evidence backing up Freeh’s conclusions is, given the strong language he uses, remarkably thin.

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Re: The Freeh Report is a hatchet job
So how soon until they tear down the statue of the old creep? Nike already took his name off the Childrens Center at their HQ.
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Re: The Freeh Report is a hatchet job
HIs name was quickly removed from an award.andy7171 wrote:So how soon until they tear down the statue of the old creep? Nike already took his name off the Childrens Center at their HQ.
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Re: The Freeh Report is a hatchet job
Let the cleansing begin.
In the shower.
In the shower.
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Re: The Freeh Report is a hatchet job
The appropriate thing to do is leave the statue up, and simply turn it around a bit so that it's looking the other way.andy7171 wrote:So how soon until they tear down the statue of the old creep?

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Re: The Freeh Report is a hatchet job
bench wrote:The appropriate thing to do is leave the statue up, and simply turn it around a bit so that it's looking the other way.andy7171 wrote:So how soon until they tear down the statue of the old creep?

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Re: The Freeh Report is a hatchet job
Benchy....he don't post much, but when he does, they're home runs. He's like Mark Reynolds.andy7171 wrote:bench wrote:
The appropriate thing to do is leave the statue up, and simply turn it around a bit so that it's looking the other way.

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Re: The Freeh Report is a hatchet job
bench wrote:The appropriate thing to do is leave the statue up, and simply turn it around a bit so that it's looking the other way.andy7171 wrote:So how soon until they tear down the statue of the old creep?


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Re: The Freeh Report is a hatchet job
Not this year!AZGrizFan wrote:Benchy....he don't post much, but when he does, they're home runs. He's like Mark Reynolds.andy7171 wrote:
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Re: The Freeh Report is a hatchet job
bench wrote:The appropriate thing to do is leave the statue up, and simply turn it around a bit so that it's looking the other way.andy7171 wrote:So how soon until they tear down the statue of the old creep?

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Re: The Freeh Report is a hatchet job
CitadelGrad wrote: The most glaring omission in the report is that Freeh did speak to any of the primary witnesses in the case. Not Paterno. Not Tim Curley. Not Mike McQueary (whom he referred to as “McQuade” in the press conference). Not Jerry Sandusky.
Really? Is that the best this tool came up with? You don't even have to goto Day 1 of Law School to understand why people currently charged with crimes aren't going to talk to investigators without their attorneys advising them so....
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Re: The Freeh Report is a hatchet job
Bravo.bench wrote:The appropriate thing to do is leave the statue up, and simply turn it around a bit so that it's looking the other way.andy7171 wrote:So how soon until they tear down the statue of the old creep?

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Re: The Freeh Report is a hatchet job
if left up
they will have to use taxpayer money to guard it against vandelism
they will have to use taxpayer money to guard it against vandelism

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Re: The Freeh Report is a hatchet job
I don't believe the report was a complete hatchet job, but I feel some of Freeh's conclusions were not backed up by hard facts. Nobody disputes the information he uncovered, but mant reasonable folks do question the hard conclusions he came to from the facts at hand.
I found the below article to be quite good.
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I found the below article to be quite good.
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Re: The Freeh Report is a hatchet job
There was a janitor that was a witness to these acts as well he never questioned!!!CitadelGrad wrote:This column does a good job of explaining why.
http://www.johnziegler.com/editorials_d ... torial=219
However, despite what you have heard in the news media, there are also some very significant problems with the report itself and, at least at this point, there is still a whole lot more speculative smoke than actual evidentiary fire in its findings.
The most glaring omission in the report is that Freeh did speak to any of the primary witnesses in the case. Not Paterno. Not Tim Curley. Not Mike McQueary (whom he referred to as “McQuade” in the press conference). Not Jerry Sandusky.
Secondly, Freeh seems to promise far more in his press release/conclusions than he actually delivers in real evidence. Most of the media of course, at best, only read the summary and not the actual report. Thanks to that, it appears that most people have no idea that the real evidence backing up Freeh’s conclusions is, given the strong language he uses, remarkably thin.
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Re: The Freeh Report is a hatchet job
That's because he is suffering from dementia.dal4018 wrote:There was a janitor that was a witness to these acts as well he never questioned!!!CitadelGrad wrote:This column does a good job of explaining why.
http://www.johnziegler.com/editorials_d ... torial=219
However, despite what you have heard in the news media, there are also some very significant problems with the report itself and, at least at this point, there is still a whole lot more speculative smoke than actual evidentiary fire in its findings.
The most glaring omission in the report is that Freeh did speak to any of the primary witnesses in the case. Not Paterno. Not Tim Curley. Not Mike McQueary (whom he referred to as “McQuade” in the press conference). Not Jerry Sandusky.
Secondly, Freeh seems to promise far more in his press release/conclusions than he actually delivers in real evidence. Most of the media of course, at best, only read the summary and not the actual report. Thanks to that, it appears that most people have no idea that the real evidence backing up Freeh’s conclusions is, given the strong language he uses, remarkably thin.
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Re: The Freeh Report is a hatchet job
No bravo. That quip was making the rounds on Twitter days ago.ASUMountaineer wrote:Bravo.bench wrote:
The appropriate thing to do is leave the statue up, and simply turn it around a bit so that it's looking the other way.
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Re: The Freeh Report is a hatchet job
As was JoPa, apparently.CitadelGrad wrote:That's because he is suffering from dementia.dal4018 wrote:There was a janitor that was a witness to these acts as well he never questioned!!!

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Re: The Freeh Report is a hatchet job
Now that UNH doesn't post very often we have CitadelGrad to keep us up to date on the Twitter goings on.CitadelGrad wrote:That quip was making the rounds on Twitter days ago.

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Maybe bench started it there too. Double Secret Bravo.CitadelGrad wrote:No bravo. That quip was making the rounds on Twitter days ago.ASUMountaineer wrote:
Bravo.
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First time I had seen it. So, get over it.CitadelGrad wrote:No bravo. That quip was making the rounds on Twitter days ago.ASUMountaineer wrote:
Bravo.
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Re: The Freeh Report is a hatchet job
bench posted it last friday. It was the first time I had seen it too. Triple dog bravo!ASUMountaineer wrote:First time I had seen it. So, get over it.CitadelGrad wrote:
No bravo. That quip was making the rounds on Twitter days ago.
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