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Boise State to stay in Mountain West
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Boise State has backed out on a commitment to join the Big East and will remain a member of the Mountain West in 2013 - and San Diego State could be next to reverse course.

Boise State and the Mountain West announced Monday they had come to an agreement to keep the Broncos playing in the league they have been a part of the past two seasons.


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Mountain West might not be done; UTEP, other Texas schools discussed
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Why stop at 11?

With the feeble state of the Big East and a wide-open lane to take control of the smaller conference realm, the Mountain West has room to get aggressive after Boise State decided to stay in the Mountain West and eschew the Big East.

Mountain West Commissioner Craig Thompson said today the league has been in talks with 3-5 teams. San Diego State -- which originally planned to join the Big East in a package deal with Boise -- is one of them.

A league source says UTEP, SMU and Houston have recently shown interest in becoming members.

BYU is the biggest prize available, but the Cougars seem committed to independence -- at least for now.

Thompson sees his league having as many members as his board of directors wants, whether that's 11 or 14. ESPN first reported the Boise news.

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it won't be 11, they are first trying to get BYU back(probably won't happen) then let SDSU back in for #12 after making them sweat b/c the AD was running his mouth every week on how they outgrew the MWC and the nBE is better. MWC will probably make them pay half of BSU's BE exit fee before they get reinvited. If Houston says yes, we go to 14 w/ UH, SMU, SDSU. If UH and SMU are still out then we have to decide if the added content from UTEP, Tulsa or UTSA are worth it to go to 14. The new tv deal allows us to shop all of our 2/3 tier games. BSU gets to shop all of its home games 1/2/3 tier.
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Mountain West to pay up to $3 million in Boise State exit fees:
- The Mountain West agrees to pay up to $3 million of Boise State's exit fees to the Big East and the Big West. The money will come from Boise State's year-end distribution, which was to be forfeited, and is expected to be $2.5 million. The Mountain West will pick up the rest from its general fund.


— The Mountain West will extend an option to San Diego State to join the league before offering membership to any other institution. The right of first option to San Diego State shall expire on Jan. 31.


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The stage is primed for SDSU's return. That move should save their football and hoops programs from certain disaster.
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San Diego State will remain a member of the Mountain West Conference and will not join the Big East this fall.
The Mountain West's Board of Directors voted Wednesday afternoon to reinstate San Diego State this fall. The Aztecs were scheduled to leave the MWC and join the Big East on July 1 as a football-only member and the Big West in all other sports. However, the Aztecs will remain a member of the Mountain West in all sports.
San Diego State's decision comes on the heels of Boise State's Dec. 31 decision to remain in the MWC and not join the Big East as a football-only member.

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Thank God. Aztec hoops did not deserve that terrible fate. :clap:

And the MWC solidifies itself as the best of the rest. :nod:
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woohoo we're #6 we're #6 we're #6 AKA the tallest midget!
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Big 12 reportedly exploring alliance with ACC and 2 other leagues
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In an effort to reap the benefits of conference expansion without actually adding more teams, the Big 12 is exploring an alliance with the ACC and two other unspecified leagues, according to Kirk Bohls.

The move is only considered to be in its exploratory stages at this point, but any deal would include football and basketball, with the potential to later expand to other sports.

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The Sun Belt is looking to add two or more football playing schools, and that need became more urgent recently when Middle Tennessee State and Florida Atlantic announced they would be leaving the conference June 30, a year earlier than planned.

The two schools agreed to pay the Sun Belt a $750,000 exit fee to speed up their switch to Conference USA.

That leaves the Sun Belt with 10 member schools, only eight of which play football.

Commissioner Karl Benson said the conference would play a seven-game conference football schedule this fall and a double round-robin 18 game conference schedule in basketball.

“We will shift our attention back to the future of the league and what our membership will consist of,” Benson said. “As of now, there are no pending invitations to the Sun Belt membership. However, we know there are a number of teams interested in joining our league.”

One of those schools is Georgia Southern, which school president Brooks Keel stated last summer was interested in moving its football program up to the FBS level.

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I'm hearing UMKC to the WAC is going to happen. WTF? I wonder if they got word that the Horizon will be taking 3 or 4 or that if the MVC loses Creighton they might tap into the Dakotas or both.
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It’s a program without a home, likely to play as an independent in 2013. But wherever they land, whether it’s in the Big South – the two sides have been in talks – or elsewhere, the Hawks, a middle-of-the-pack NEC team with a sub-par defense in recent years, need to get this thing cranked up on the field.

“We’re committed to football, and we’re committed to finding a home and increasing scholarships to the necessary levels,’’ declared Monmouth president Paul Gaffney.

All of which makes this annual exercise known as National Signing Day that much more important.

Say the most likely scenario comes to fruition and the Hawks find themselves in the Big South, facing teams with up to 63 scholarships in 2014. If they hope to beat the likes of Coastal Carolina and Liberty, finding better athletes, not just more athletes, is the key.

As they gradually increase scholarships, and hopefully expand the coaching staff and facilities at Kessler Field, the team has to make strides on the field. Because when they reach the magical number of 57 scholarships, or scholarship equivalents, thus enabling them to play an FBS opponent and come home with a nice check, everything else has to be up-to-speed as well.
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UMKC to the WAC done

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This could mean they know the MVC is going to replace Creighton w/ SDSU, NDSU, USD. Horizon could still lose Detroit to the A10, and take Oakland IPFW to get back to 10. Denver could do a BSU and come back to the WAC.
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Fresno St. Alum wrote:I'm hearing UMKC to the WAC is going to happen. WTF? I wonder if they got word that the Horizon will be taking 3 or 4 or that if the MVC loses Creighton they might tap into the Dakotas or both.

Why the heck would they do that? Unless Summit is going to collapse - but that would take a lot of dominos.
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danefan wrote:
It’s a program without a home, likely to play as an independent in 2013. But wherever they land, whether it’s in the Big South – the two sides have been in talks – or elsewhere, the Hawks, a middle-of-the-pack NEC team with a sub-par defense in recent years, need to get this thing cranked up on the field.

“We’re committed to football, and we’re committed to finding a home and increasing scholarships to the necessary levels,’’ declared Monmouth president Paul Gaffney.

All of which makes this annual exercise known as National Signing Day that much more important.

Say the most likely scenario comes to fruition and the Hawks find themselves in the Big South, facing teams with up to 63 scholarships in 2014. If they hope to beat the likes of Coastal Carolina and Liberty, finding better athletes, not just more athletes, is the key.

As they gradually increase scholarships, and hopefully expand the coaching staff and facilities at Kessler Field, the team has to make strides on the field. Because when they reach the magical number of 57 scholarships, or scholarship equivalents, thus enabling them to play an FBS opponent and come home with a nice check, everything else has to be up-to-speed as well.
http://www.app.com/article/20130206/NJC ... -for-Hawks" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Would be nice to see them at Full Schollie.
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Dear gods of college realignment....keep the fucking dakota schools....or any summit school away from the MVC.
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clenz wrote:Dear gods of college realignment....keep the fucking dakota schools....or any summit school away from the MVC.

SDSU and NDSU have higher RPI's than any school in the MVC other than Creighton or Wichita.

UNI was once a Summit League school. Why the hate?
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clenz wrote:Dear gods of college realignment....keep the fucking dakota schools....or any summit school away from the MVC.

SDSU and NDSU have higher RPI's than any school in the MVC other than Creighton or Wichita.

UNI was once a Summit League school. Why the hate?
If you really believe SDSU/NDSU are on the same level as UNI, Illinois State, Indiana State, Creighton, Wichita State...heck even Missouri State and Southern Illinois when it comes to national profile you're crazy.


UNI moved into the MVC before it became what it is today. The MVC is head and shoulders above the Summit. Depending what happens with the C7 league, there are much better options for the MVC to pursue.
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clenz wrote:
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SDSU and NDSU have higher RPI's than any school in the MVC other than Creighton or Wichita.

UNI was once a Summit League school. Why the hate?
If you really believe SDSU/NDSU are on the same level as UNI, Illinois State, Indiana State, Creighton, Wichita State...heck even Missouri State and Southern Illinois when it comes to national profile you're crazy.


UNI moved into the MVC before it became what it is today. The MVC is head and shoulders above the Summit. Depending what happens with the C7 league, there are much better options for the MVC to pursue.

No one said that MVC is not head and shoulders above the Summit League as a whole. But the Dakota schools have the potential to be up there with all the above schools. And frankly, NDSU is at the level of all those schools mentioned, except Creighton, and they are likely ditching the MVC.


What better options does MVC have?
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- The University of Missouri-Kansas City has accepted an invitation to join the Western Athletic Conference. UMKC will begin play in the WAC during the next athletic year, effective July 1, 2013.
UMKC has notified the Summit League of its intention to withdraw from that conference, effective June 30, 2013.

UMKC will be immediately eligible for postseason championship play at both the conference and NCAA level in each of its 16 sports. The WAC holds an automatic NCAA postseason berth in each of the sponsored team sports.
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dbackjon wrote:
Fresno St. Alum wrote:I'm hearing UMKC to the WAC is going to happen. WTF? I wonder if they got word that the Horizon will be taking 3 or 4 or that if the MVC loses Creighton they might tap into the Dakotas or both.

Why the heck would they do that? Unless Summit is going to collapse - but that would take a lot of dominos.
Horizon will fill the Butler hole w/ Summit, also a good shot they lose Detroit, fill that w/ Summit. MVC will likely lose Creighton to the C7, fill that w/ SDSU, will they come alone? NDSU is good at basketball and fb anyway might as well take them, doubt they sit at 11 so USD lucks out. If MVC takes UWM(I don't see it they aren't what they were) then the HL fills that hole w/ a Summit. What if the HL goes to 12, could be 2 more Summit.
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dbackjon wrote:
clenz wrote: If you really believe SDSU/NDSU are on the same level as UNI, Illinois State, Indiana State, Creighton, Wichita State...heck even Missouri State and Southern Illinois when it comes to national profile you're crazy.


UNI moved into the MVC before it became what it is today. The MVC is head and shoulders above the Summit. Depending what happens with the C7 league, there are much better options for the MVC to pursue.

No one said that MVC is not head and shoulders above the Summit League as a whole. But the Dakota schools have the potential to be up there with all the above schools. And frankly, NDSU is at the level of all those schools mentioned, except Creighton, and they are likely ditching the MVC.


What better options does MVC have?
NDSU's average RPI since they started the D1 move in 2004 is 200 give or take 20 spots. That's not exactly MVC quality.

SDSU's RPI is just as bad.


The MVC is the predominant "mid-major" league that will do everything to protect that. NDSU and SDSU do nothing to protect that. Potential isn't what realignment is about.

SDSU's basketball facility is a lot like the ancient ruins...old and falling apart. NDSU's facility is garbage and their selling point to the MVC is "We'll build a brand new arena if you invite us...ignore the fact we aren't actually building a new one and just renovating what we have...and that the majority of the bleachers are still retractable, and we will lose seats by doing the renovation....and that the arena would be the smallest in the conference by over 2,000 seats....oh and ignore the fact you have members in southern Kansas, Indiana, and southern Illinois and we are in Fargo...I hear the Tuesday night trips for womens basketball from Evansville to Fargo is well worth the expense."


The fact is if NDSU/SDSU get in that means Creighton is gone and likely one other school....If Creighton leaves and one of the Dakota's is selected as a replacement watch for WSU, SIU, UNI, MSU, ISUr, Evansville, and InSU to look for new homes.

UNI is building a relationship with the MAC, Illinois St is right in with the MAC footprint and a UNI/ISUr pairing would be perfect for them (also perfect as both really want MAC football right now). MSU has hopes of FBS football and would likely be willing to take Sun Belt to get there. Southern Illinois may not actually have a choice, they are in such a financial mess right now. Evansville is a perfect fit for the Horizon. WSU would be a nice fit for the MWC if they wanted to get more of a balance between BB and FB


It should also be known there is no impact on the Dakota's being in the MVFC and a chance at MVC. They are two separate conferences, but since the name change from Gateway to MVFC people think they are the same.







As far as team the MVC would go after:
Tulsa - was in MVC until 1996, brings OK market, keeps southern schools happier
St. Louis - depending what happens with the C7
Depaul - depending what happens with the C7
UW-Mil. - not a popular option with some but right in the footprint
Murray St - see UW-M
Oral Roberts - was in MVC, keeps southern schools happy...decent record in the past
Denver - Not sure how the fit as they are far outside the footprint...but apparently there was some interest, Denver market would be huge...but I've heard them rumored as much as anyone else.
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its either them or UW-Milwaukee who hasn't been good for a while.
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Fresno St. Alum wrote:its either them or UW-Milwaukee who hasn't been good for a while.
UW-Mil isn't popular with some, but has a lot more support than any of the Dakota's honestly.
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To use RPI since transition is not valid - of course there is a ramp up period
UNI to MAC?? LOL how are you going to pay for 44 more schollies?
Tulsa? What are they doing with their FB?
DePaul? right....
St. Louis - maybe. More likely to C7
MIL? and you are looking down on the Dakotas?
ORU - see MIL
Denver? OK...

The Dakota schools are the best institutional fit for the MVC
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