CitadelGrad's PSU Bitch thread

[SDHornet]

That's because he is suffering from dementia.

As was JoPa, apparently.

Yeah so to some folks that makes what hid did (and didn't do) ok.

[CitadelGrad]

are unconstitutional, according to at least one law firm.

http://michaelbucknerlaw.wordpress.com/ ... enn-state/

If the media reports are true, then the NCAA has charted an unprecedented, and perhaps unconstitutional, course of action. Federal and state courts have consistently held that membership organizations, including athletics associations like the NCAA, are required to provide procedures that protect their members against arbitrary and irrational action. Thus, an NCAA rule or decision cannot be applied unreasonably so that it creates different classes of schools. Accordingly, any NCAA sanction against Penn State at this stage may potentially violate federal and state notions of due and fair process for several reasons, .........

[grizzaholic]

The public's mind is already made up on them. They should just take the punishment and never mention it again. The more they drag this out and fight and make it front page news the slower it will leave the public's eye. The attention span of this country is so small this will be gone in a year or two, if they fight and drag this out in the courts for 3 years and continue saying nothing happened and no cover-up was blah blah blah it will hurt the institution more.

[∞∞∞]

From what I read, PSU officials and Emmert met this week to discuss the sanctions and PSU agreed to them.

[grizzaholic]

From everything I've read, PSU officials and Emmert met this week to discuss the sanctions and PSU agreed to them.

You have to be wrong. Citgrad knows more than anyone here about this situation.

[free7694]

are unconstitutional, according to at least one law firm.

http://michaelbucknerlaw.wordpress.com/ ... enn-state/

If the media reports are true, then the NCAA has charted an unprecedented, and perhaps unconstitutional, course of action. Federal and state courts have consistently held that membership organizations, including athletics associations like the NCAA, are required to provide procedures that protect their members against arbitrary and irrational action. Thus, an NCAA rule or decision cannot be applied unreasonably so that it creates different classes of schools. Accordingly, any NCAA sanction against Penn State at this stage may potentially violate federal and state notions of due and fair process for several reasons, .........

If that's the case, it's a gross misapplication of the Constitution. The NCAA is a private entity, it can do whatever the hell it wants, and Penn State deserves anything and everything coming to it from the NCAA and then some. Hell, if I was Jim Delaney, I'd kick Penn State's ass out of the Big Ten, too.

[BlueHen86]

The public's mind is already made up on them. They should just take the punishment and never mention it again. The more they drag this out and fight and make it front page news the slower it will leave the public's eye. The attention span of this country is so small this will be gone in a year or two, if they fight and drag this out in the courts for 3 years and continue saying nothing happened and no cover-up was blah blah blah it will hurt the institution more.

This is going to drag on for years. NCAA sanctions or no NCAA sanctions. There is no quick way for Penn St to put this behind them.

But I agree, they should accept the punishment. It's the best move from a PR standpoint.

[CitadelGrad]

From what I read, PSU officials and Emmert met this week to discuss the sanctions and PSU agreed to them.

That's the rumor and it's probably true. Still, Penn State's compliance with the NCAA still doesn't let the NCAA off the hook for ignoring it's own rules and procedures. Clearly, the NCAA was determined to sanction Penn State with or without Penn State cooperation and by circumventing its own procedures. It also speaks to the weakness of the current leadership at Penn State.

[CitadelGrad]

From everything I've read, PSU officials and Emmert met this week to discuss the sanctions and PSU agreed to them.

You have to be wrong. Citgrad knows more than anyone here about this situation.

I do. That's pretty clear. You can't even get the basic facts of the matter correct.

[BlueHen86]

From what I read, PSU officials and Emmert met this week to discuss the sanctions and PSU agreed to them.

That's the rumor and it's probably true. Still, Penn State's compliance with the NCAA still doesn't let the NCAA off the hook for ignoring it's own rules and procedures. Clearly, the NCAA was determined to sanction Penn State with or without Penn State cooperation and by circumventing its own procedures. It also speaks to the weakness of the current leadership at Penn State.

Which is no where near a bad as the weakness of the previous leadership at Penn St.

The current leadership is doing the right thing, if the previous leadership did the right thing Penn St. wouldn't be in this mess.

[BlueHen86]

You have to be wrong. Citgrad knows more than anyone here about this situation.

I do. That's pretty clear. You can't even get the basic facts of the matter correct.

[grizzaholic]

You have to be wrong. Citgrad knows more than anyone here about this situation.

I do. That's pretty clear. You can't even get the basic facts of the matter correct.

Perhaps you and Franks should have a lunch date and get on board with the Penn State/Paterno spin team? Probably lots of money to be made.

[dbackjon]

Penn State should be barred from hosting home games for 10 years - long enough for all those that profited from the Cult of Joe to hurt some.

[clenz]

If n one knows what the sanctions are how can it be known if they are constitutional?

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[clenz]

Also how is this putting psu in a different class than the rest pods the ncaa?

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[MrTitleist]

Just saw this on Twitter:
https://twitter.com/TZorange/status/227 ... to/1/large" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

[rkwittem]

If n one knows what the sanctions are how can it be known if they are constitutional?

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Dude, Franks Tanks and CitGrad know everything. Don't question them. They're all experts on morality, legality, and NCAA regulations. We're just part of the unenlightened rabble.

[rkwittem]

Just saw this on Twitter:
https://twitter.com/TZorange/status/227 ... to/1/large" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

O.M.G. INSANE. (but I kinda like it)

[SDHornet]

That's the rumor and it's probably true. Still, Penn State's compliance with the NCAA still doesn't let the NCAA off the hook for ignoring it's own rules and procedures. Clearly, the NCAA was determined to sanction Penn State with or without Penn State cooperation and by circumventing its own procedures. It also speaks to the weakness of the current leadership at Penn State.

Which is no where near a bad as the weakness of the previous leadership at Penn St.

The current leadership is doing the right thing, if the previous leadership did the right thing Penn St. wouldn't be in this mess.

This sums it up quite well.

[Tod]

Just saw this on Twitter:
https://twitter.com/TZorange/status/227 ... to/1/large" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Well, if so...

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MOTHER OF GOD!

[clenz]

Holy shit...SMU got off easy

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[Screamin_Eagle174]

Epic. I particularly like that the current players who wish to transfer (all of them) will not count against the scholarship number, opening up the option to play at pretty much any school they want (and who also wants them). I'm guessing if it's to another FBS/BCS school that they'll be able to play right away?

[BDKJMU]

From what I read, PSU officials and Emmert met this week to discuss the sanctions and PSU agreed to them.

Just saw this on Twitter:
https://twitter.com/TZorange/status/227 ... to/1/large" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

No way are both rumors totally true. I can see Penn State meeting with Emmert and agreeing to extremely harsh penalties, but holy s**t, I can't see them agreeing to all that without putting up a legal challenge.

[SuperHornet]

Holy shit...SMU got off easy

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Exactly. If that tweet is even HALF true, the NCAA is DEFINITELY overstepping their bounds. IMO, this is a LE issue, NOT a sports issue. The NCAA should see their way OUT.

[SuperHornet]

are unconstitutional, according to at least one law firm.

http://michaelbucknerlaw.wordpress.com/ ... enn-state/

If the media reports are true, then the NCAA has charted an unprecedented, and perhaps unconstitutional, course of action. Federal and state courts have consistently held that membership organizations, including athletics associations like the NCAA, are required to provide procedures that protect their members against arbitrary and irrational action. Thus, an NCAA rule or decision cannot be applied unreasonably so that it creates different classes of schools. Accordingly, any NCAA sanction against Penn State at this stage may potentially violate federal and state notions of due and fair process for several reasons, .........

I don't know about unconstitutional, but I think an argument can be made that this bogus course violates antitrust laws, or at least an egregious overstepping of their bounds into a LE matter....