Auburn/Alabama

[andy7171]

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kLZN0CabW6s[/youtube]

Lights out at the 1:12 mark!

[rkwittem]

Why is FSU getting a free pass for their pitiful schedule? Oh yeah, because they play in the ACC. The B1G has a stigma. It isn't helped when there are coaches making idiots of themselves (Pelini for obvious reasons, Jerry Kill- seriously, for your own health, retire, and Brady Hoke, who doesn't wear a headset; I even left out Illinois out of pity). Yeah, it's not a great conference, but Michigan State would be FSU's toughest opponent too. They're playing DUKE in their conference championship, in case you missed it. Va Tech was average. Miami was injury-riddled. Clemson was Clemson.....again.

The other problem is that FSU will get booted out of the NCG if OSU and Auburn win, provided Winston gets suspended. That's the only way it happens...and it may.

For the Auburn-OSU argument, there are a few points worth noting.
1. Aubie barely beat TAMU, UGA, and struggled with many other inferior teams. This isn't 08 Florida or 09 Bama as SEC champions go. I think Mizzou is a more complete team than Auburn. Where's their support?

2. Of all the edges Auburn has on Ohio State, they clearly have a superior loss to the Buckeyes' loss...

3. RJ Bell on Grantland said that he's heard from sports books in Vegas that most would favor Ohio State over Auburn if they met. Now we just need Winston to get suspended or Duke to beat them and this debate would get settled in a much more satisfying way.

[bluehenbillk]

I put Winston having no charges against him at a 98.33% chance.

[Skjellyfetti]

Why is FSU getting a free pass for their pitiful schedule?

Because our only FSU fan (tampajag) hasn't been in this thread douching it up like our resident Ohio State fan.

[Willie]

How have I been douching it up? I've spoken fact. Cunt.

[Ibanez]

Why is FSU getting a free pass for their pitiful schedule?

Because our only FSU fan (tampajag) hasn't been in this thread douching it up like our resident Ohio State fan.[/quote
Next to black falkin, you're the biggest douche

[rkwittem]

Why is FSU getting a free pass for their pitiful schedule?

Because our only FSU fan (tampajag) hasn't been in this thread douching it up like our resident Ohio State fan.

Well there goes any credibility any of you had. Basing your respect for teams based on how much you like or dislike their fans? Absolutely stupid. Even the BCS isn't that stupid. Congratulations. I had a different theory why, but you just gave me an even worse reason.

[Skjellyfetti]

An Ohio State fan came into a thread on the Alabama - Auburn game blabbing about how great Ohio State is.

The thread turned into why Ohio State should or should not be in the title game, how terrible their schedule is, etc.

You asked why FSU is getting a free pass -- it's because an FSU fan hasn't come in the thread pumping up their school. If one did, they'd get the same reaction from me.

[Skjellyfetti]

Also, just gonna drop this off here.

[rkwittem]

Also, just gonna drop this off here.

Yeah, that was 7 years ago. If you give OSU no credit for 24 straight wins, don't argue on the past for Auburn because of the SEC's recent streak. Lots has changed since that day that Urban said that. Ohio State IS better than Auburn, they are undefeated, and required zero lucky breaks to win any of their games. The Michigan 2-pt play was scouted. That's not luck- it was coaching and I refuse to accept it as proof that the Buckeyes were somehow "lucky."

In any case Auburn still needsbto beat Mizzou, which isn't exactly easy either.

[Skjellyfetti]

I'm not saying Ohio State is lucky.

I'm saying that right now -- they have 0 quality wins. I'm saying they play a shit schedule.

It's the same reason NIU doesn't deserve to be in the national championship game -- despite back-to-back undefeated regular seasons, like Ohio State.

They do have a chance this week, we'll see how they do. But, it will still only be 1 quality win.

If Auburn wins this weekend -- they'll have 4 quality wins.

It's not like it's even marginally close.

[BlueHen86]

I'm not saying Ohio State is lucky.

I'm saying that right now -- they have 0 quality wins. I'm saying they play a shit schedule.

It's the same reason NIU doesn't deserve to be in the national championship game -- despite back-to-back undefeated regular seasons, like Ohio State.

They do have a chance this week, we'll see how they do. But, it will still only be 1 quality win.

If Auburn wins this weekend -- they'll have 4 quality wins.

It's not like it's even marginally close.

...and a loss. The SEC may be the best conference, but it doesn't deserve a bye into the BCS champ game. Auburn didn't take care of business every week, Ohio St did.

[clenz]

What about NIU?

[Skjellyfetti]

I'm not saying Ohio State is lucky.

I'm saying that right now -- they have 0 quality wins. I'm saying they play a shit schedule.

It's the same reason NIU doesn't deserve to be in the national championship game -- despite back-to-back undefeated regular seasons, like Ohio State.

They do have a chance this week, we'll see how they do. But, it will still only be 1 quality win.

If Auburn wins this weekend -- they'll have 4 quality wins.

It's not like it's even marginally close.

...and a loss. The SEC may be the best conference, but it doesn't deserve a bye into the BCS champ game. Auburn didn't take care of business every week, Ohio St did.

True.

But, would Ohio State have gone undefeated playing Auburn's schedule? I would say no... but, we we'll never know.

Would Auburn have gone undefeated playing Ohio State's schedule? Easy yes for me, but we'll never know.

Would Alabama have gone undefeated against all unranked teams all season?

An undefeated season is impressive, but I don't hear anyone arguing for NIU to be in the championship game.

Undefeated Tulane was passed over in '98 for a 1-loss Florida State team.
Undefeated Boise was passed over in '06 for a 1-loss Florida team
Undefeated NIU was passed over in '12 for a 1-loss Alabama team

Do you think any of those UNDEFEATED teams should have played in the National Title? Why not?

[SuperHornet]

Boise had a case....

[BlueHen86]

What about NIU?

Bowling Green 47 NIU 27

[JohnStOnge]

I heard on the radio the other day that there's never been a case in the BCS era where an undefeated team from one of the major conferences was left out of the BCS championship game in favor of a 1 loss team from another major conference. Alabama wouldn't have done it either. If Oklahoma State wouldn't have lost to Iowa State in 2011 Oklahoma State would've been playing LSU in the BCS championship game and if either Oregon or Kansas State would've stayed undefeated last year one of them would've been in against Notre Dame.

[rkwittem]

It's a meaningless argument to use 7+ year examples as somehow "proof" that Ohio State doesn't belong. They can only play who's on their schedule. Cal was scheduled at a time when Cal was actually good. Almighty SEC power Vanderbilt bailed on playing Ohio State this year. The "we played more good teams" routine that SEC apologists/Southerners like to use is too narrow. It ignores losses and non-conference schedules. OSU had to play FAMU because Vandy bailed. Auburn played Western Carolina, Arkansas State and FAU- hardly a murderer's row. And again, they got squashed by an average LSU team. And they didn't really dominate anyone. Sorry, but your logic means FSU and Ohio State both should sit at home while we get stuck with Iron Bowl II...and that's wrong.

[Skjellyfetti]

Cal was scheduled at a time when Cal was actually good

Cal - Ohio State series was scheduled in 2002.

Cal was coming off 1-10 and 7-5 seasons.

I guess it's subjective, but I don't consider that good.

Almighty SEC power Vanderbilt bailed on playing Ohio State this year.

I'm not about to defend that. Fuck James Franklin and Vandy's athletic department.

He knew Vandy would probably need to soften their schedule to make a bowl game. He knew they would not need a difficult schedule to make it to a national championship game or anything... and he pussied out.

Much more respect for a team like Tennessee that kept their game at Oregon, despite that fact that it could have (and did) keep them from going to to a bowl game.

But, even if Ohio State did play Vandy -- it still wouldn't be a quality win. And, I wouldn't count it as a quality win for Missouri either.

Vandy is 4th in their DIVISION with a .500 record.

You probably meant it sarcastically, but Vandy certainly isn't an SEC power and wouldn't have boosted Ohio State's resume much at all.

It wouldn't have been a quality win for Ohio State and it's not a quality win for Missouri.

Sorry, but your logic means FSU and Ohio State both should sit at home while we get stuck with Iron Bowl II...and that's wrong.

Haven't said that.

[clenz]

Well shit OSU fans....better luck next year...Michigan State just fucked your shit all up

[clenz]

Also....fun reading...even before the loss Auburn clearly had the better resume.




NIU could only beat who was on their schedule last year...should they have played for the title? I mean they didn't lose in the regular season.

What if they had beaten BGSU last night? They would have beaten everyone they were forced to play...including 2 b10 schools

[Willie]

Just like the Griz game today...some strange play calling tonight. Miller can't beat everyone by himself.

[Skjellyfetti]

How have I been douching it up? I've spoken fact. Cunt.

FACTS?!

These are facts?!?!

OSU is gonna be in the championship after Saturday

Michigan State blows. They're nowhere near capable of keeping up in scoring. They have no offense, period.

Sorry bout the loss, bro. Maybe next year y'all can have a full regular season again without having to play a decent team so you can get to the playoffs. Unfortunately, it will be the playoffs, though... so, tough shit having to win back-to-back games against quality opponents.

Also, hope y'all get matched up with Alabama in the Orange Bowl.

[Willie]

Why do you wish that? Because your Vols blow dick?

And holy shit listening to these players being interviewed, I can see why they only got into MSU. Jesus they can't even speak English.

[clenz]

OSU players attend any better