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Happy Trails to the Fat Man

Posted: Mon Nov 30, 2009 1:17 pm
by hank scorpio
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Someone should have told him to recruit a defense!
SOUTH BEND, Ind. (AP) -- A person familiar with the decision says Notre Dame has fired coach Charlie Weis.

The move comes after a string of disappointing seasons that was capped by four agonizing losses, including the regular-season finale on Saturday night at Stanford.

The person confirmed the firing to The Associated Press on the condition of anonymity because the official announcement had yet to be made. An announcement by the school was expected later Monday.

The New York Daily News first reported the firing.

A brash offensive coordinator with the NFL champion New England Patriots when he was hired five years ago, Weis raised Irish expectations with back-to-back appearances in BCS bowl games in his first two seasons.

Since then, one of the nation's most storied football programs has gone 16-21 -- the most losses ever by the Irish in a three-year span.

Weis wound up with a 35-27 record in his five seasons, a record worse than his two predecessors, Tyrone Willingham and Bob Davie, who also were fired.

Weis has six years left on a 10-year contract signed midway through his first season, just after a thriller against top-ranked USC that ended in a 34-31 loss.

The way that game played out served as a model for the Weis era. Clinging to a 31-28 lead with less than 2 minutes to play, Notre Dame allowed the Trojans to convert on a fourth-and-9 from their own 26. That ultimately set up a quarterback sneak in the waning moments, when Reggie Bush pushed Matt Leinhart into the end zone for the winning score.

In the end, Weis went 35-27 in his five years as Irish head coach, a .565 winning percentage that was worse than the .583 posted by his two predecessors, Tyrone Willingham and Bob Davie. They were both fired, too. He leaves with one of the worst winning percentages of any Fighting Irish coach: Only four of Notre Dame's previous 27 coaches won at a lower percentage.

What made Weis' fall worse for fans of one of the nation's most storied football programs was that it began so promisingly.

Weis came to Notre Dame brimming with confidence after serving as offensive coordinator for the three-time Super Bowl champion New England Patriots.

The first two seasons under Weis produced more victories (19) than any other Notre Dame, more than the first years of Knute Rockne, more than Frank Leahy, more than Ara Parseghian. Both seasons ended with BCS bowl losses.

Asked about his start at the time, Weis said: "I really haven't done anything yet."

He didn't know he had reached the high point of his tenure.

With Brady Quinn, Jeff Samardzija and other key players gone in 2007, the Irish started 0-5 for the first time in school history. They finished 3-9, leaving Weis one loss shy of matching Davie's school record of 16 losses in his first three seasons.

Most shocking, though, was the fact the Irish finished last in the NCAA in total offense just three years after Weis said at his introductory news conference that when it comes to X's and O's "we have the greatest advantage."

The past two seasons the Irish have collapsed in November. They got off to a 5-2 start before going 1-4 down the stretch a year ago, and started 6-2 this season before slumping -- starting with a once-unthinkable second loss in three years to Navy.

Among the people considered likely candidates are Oklahoma coach Bob Stoops, Cincinnati coach Brian Kelly, TCU coach Gary Patterson and Stanford coach Jim Harbaugh. The task for athletic director Jack Swarbrick, who is in his second year on the job, is to find a coach who can end the longest title drought in Notre Dame history.

The school has not topped the AP's final poll since the end of the 1988 season.
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2009/f ... ef=BrkNews

Re: Happy Trails to the Fat Man

Posted: Mon Nov 30, 2009 2:33 pm
by BlueHen86
ESPN reports thsat Weis exspects to land on his feet somewhere - I hope he doesn't break his ankles. :D

Seriously though, he has supposedly been contacted by some NFL teams about becoming an offensive coordinator. I'm sure there will be some college opportunities available for him as well.

Re: Happy Trails to the Fat Man

Posted: Mon Nov 30, 2009 2:41 pm
by AZGrizFan
The Irish will never be relevant in the National Title picture again. I agree wholeheartedly with Colin CowTurd on this one: Superstar defensive players are not smart enough to qualify to get in to Notre Dame. They will never have a stellar defense, and thus will never go 10-1 or 11-0 again unless they join the MAC or Big East. :coffee:

This is why Florida's coach went to Florida (despite being a Notre Dame guy).

Re: Happy Trails to the Fat Man

Posted: Mon Nov 30, 2009 2:49 pm
by dbackjon
:rofl:


Could only win with Willingham's recruits

Re: Happy Trails to the Fat Man

Posted: Mon Nov 30, 2009 4:40 pm
by SuperHornet
Poorly written article. It repeated itself about Weis' overall record compared to the combined record of Willingham and Davie, and the fact that they were axed as well.

SI has become tr@sh since the mid-'80s.

That said, as far as I'm concerned, South Bend is a who-cares program. Give me Navy, USF, or just about anyone in FCS any day of the week.

Re: Happy Trails to the Fat Man

Posted: Thu Dec 03, 2009 9:40 pm
by Shellin
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No real point starting a new thread for this one since it fits in so nicely :)

Mark Mangino is out at Kansas as well.

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?id=4711389

Re: Happy Trails to the Fat Man

Posted: Thu Dec 03, 2009 9:43 pm
by DJH
dbackjon wrote::rofl:


Could only win with Willingham's recruits
Willingham couldn't win with Willingham's recruits.

Re: Happy Trails to the Fat Man

Posted: Thu Dec 03, 2009 11:11 pm
by SuperHornet
Depends on which "fat man" you're talking about. One could point to Weis, Mangino, or even Donald Gerth, the former long-time president of Sac State that didn't know how to support a sports program to save his life and showed up only when he could steal the glory of a team that did well.

Re: Happy Trails to the Fat Man

Posted: Fri Dec 04, 2009 7:00 am
by JMU DJ
I thought this was going to be about Mark Mangino

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Re: Happy Trails to the Fat Man

Posted: Fri Dec 04, 2009 10:13 am
by Marcus Garvey
JMU DJ wrote:I thought this was going to be about Mark Mangino

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I did too.
To get anything done for the football program within KU's athletic department, you pretty much have to be a world class asshole and bully. Of course, that type of personality doesn't confine itself strictly to dealing with the administrative side of things. The stories have shown that. I'm sure he painted a huge target on his back (and let's face it, that target would be f--king huge on Mangino's back), and the KU athletic department has been waiting for this day.

I've got no problem with him getting fired/forced to resign. However, I suspect Kansas will hire some pushover of a shitty coach and go back to sucking at football for the next 5 to 7 years.

And fare thee well Baby Mangino
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