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Nice to see 3 non AQ teams in the top 5.

Another week, another team passes Boise. I had a feeling that TCU would jump them, but I thought it would happen after the Utah game.

I am also okay with this. I'd love to see TCU in the BCS Championship game. I'd be happy with any non-BCS conference team making it. Boise St vs either TCU or Utah would be the best possible outcome.

BlueHen86 wrote:Another week, another team passes Boise. I had a feeling that TCU would jump them, but I thought it would happen after the Utah game.

I am also okay with this. I'd love to see TCU in the BCS Championship game. I'd be happy with any non-BCS conference team making it. Boise St vs either TCU or Utah would be the best possible outcome.

actually it wouldn't. Just like last year's Fiesta Bowl, there is no way to tell how good those teams really are unless they play an Auburn/Oregon/Alabama/ conference champion that isn't from the Big Easy or ACC

youngterrier wrote:

BlueHen86 wrote:Another week, another team passes Boise. I had a feeling that TCU would jump them, but I thought it would happen after the Utah game.

I am also okay with this. I'd love to see TCU in the BCS Championship game. I'd be happy with any non-BCS conference team making it. Boise St vs either TCU or Utah would be the best possible outcome.

actually it wouldn't. Just like last year's Fiesta Bowl, there is no way to tell how good those teams really are unless they play an Auburn/Oregon/Alabama/ conference champion that isn't from the Big Easy or ACC

I think it would. A Boise vs. TCU/Utah BCS championship game would make the BCS conference teams reconsider a playoff. They would argue that they need a playoff because strength of schedule puts their teams are at an unfair advantage under the current system.

TCU absolutely deserves to be ahead of Boise. TCU's schedule is quite a bit stronger than Boise's. However, TCU has been more of a victim of being leapfrogged than Boise has. For this magic of Boise/TCU making the title game to happen, Auburn needs to lose. I think Oregon is on cruise control unless Arizona or OSU make the stumble. TCU or Utah stand to really gain next week with a win.

Schedule remaining for Utah:
TCU
@ Notre Dame
@ San Diego State
BYU

Schedule remaining for TCU:
@ Utah
San Diego State
@ New Mexico

TCU is obviously got the easier schedule here.. and are being boosted with a win over a surprising Baylor who's looking tough. Oregon State continuing to rise is helping them too.

Oregon jumping Auburn was surprising.

I've been a big support of TCU, and have been shocked at the lack of outcry there has been for TCU.

Go Frogs!

clenz wrote:I've been a big support of TCU, and have been shocked at the lack of outcry there has been for TCU.

Go Frogs!

Losing the bowl game to a Boise team that returned everyone will do that. Is there any reason to think TCU is better than they were last year? The Baylor win looks good now, but will lose some polish after they lose to Okie State and OU. Their win over Oregon State was no better than Boise's win over Oregon State. I'm not saying TCU isn't a good team, but do you think they are better than last year?

Bottom line... do you know how much it's gonna suck to have Boise vs TCU in the second place bowl again this year? It would be their third straight bowl pairing.

89Hen wrote:

clenz wrote:I've been a big support of TCU, and have been shocked at the lack of outcry there has been for TCU.

Go Frogs!

Losing the bowl game to a Boise team that returned everyone will do that. Is there any reason to think TCU is better than they were last year? The Baylor win looks good now, but will lose some polish after they lose to Okie State and OU. Their win over Oregon State was no better than Boise's win over Oregon State. I'm not saying TCU isn't a good team, but do you think they are better than last year?

Bottom line... do you know how much it's gonna suck to have Boise vs TCU in the second place bowl again this year? It would be their third straight bowl pairing.

I do believe TCU is better than last year.

I also think that the sum of TCU's schedule is tougher than that of BSU's thus far, and through the end of the season.

TCU wins out they finish solidly a head of BSU.

clenz wrote:I do believe TCU is better than last year.

Do you think Boise is better than last year?

89Hen wrote:

clenz wrote:I do believe TCU is better than last year.

Do you think Boise is better than last year?

Yes.


I see what you are going for, and that doesn't change the fact I feel TCU is the stronger team, and more deserving at this point.

clenz wrote:I see what you are going for, and that doesn't change the fact I feel TCU is the stronger team, and more deserving at this point.

I'm honestly not making a case for Boise being better than TCU, I'm just trying to show why Boise is getting more "outcry" than TCU. I haven't seen TCU play a single down... which ALSO speaks to why Boise gets more attention. They've had at least three games on national TV. Add in two BCS bowl wins... it's pretty easy to see why they're the poster child for BCS bashing.

TCU's SOS is way better than Boise's, up and down the schedule. My cousin was outraged that Boise was below TCU.. so I looked some things up. Taking out OSU/VaTech for Boise and OSU/Baylor, and Boise's opponents have 14 wins. TCUs have 22. Boise has Nevada and Hawaii left as "big" games. TCU has Utah and San Diego State. TCU will have the better SOS. Besides, who gives a fuck about last year.. that was last year.

MrTitleist wrote:TCU's SOS is way better than Boise's, up and down the schedule.

Not really.

Sagarin has TCU with the #72 schedule and Boise with #74.

89Hen wrote:

MrTitleist wrote:TCU's SOS is way better than Boise's, up and down the schedule.

Not really.

Sagarin has TCU with the #72 schedule and Boise with #74.

Did 89Hen just make an argument using a computer generated ranking system?

Willie wrote:Oregon jumping Auburn was surprising.

Not at all. They were rectifying their mistake from the week prior.

Screamin_Eagle174 wrote:

Willie wrote:Oregon jumping Auburn was surprising.

Not at all. They were rectifying their mistake from the week prior.

SEC > PAC

AZGrizFan wrote:Did 89Hen just make an argument using a computer generated ranking system?

Only because there is no human ranking of the schedules. My own raking shows that Utah and Boise's schedules are pretty much the same.

Willie wrote:

Screamin_Eagle174 wrote:
Not at all. They were rectifying their mistake from the week prior.

SEC > PAC

Not by much this year.

Grizalltheway wrote:

Willie wrote: SEC > PAC

Not by much this year.

You're joking right? Other than Oregon and MAYBE Oregon State, who is worth a shit in the PAC this year?

Willie wrote:

Grizalltheway wrote:
Not by much this year.

You're joking right? Other than Oregon and MAYBE Oregon State, who is worth a shit in the PAC this year?

Stanford and Arizona

youngterrier wrote:

Willie wrote: You're joking right? Other than Oregon and MAYBE Oregon State, who is worth a shit in the PAC this year?

Stanford and Arizona

Ah, for some reason I always forget them.

Either way, the SEC > PAC, still.

Willie wrote:

youngterrier wrote: Stanford and Arizona

Ah, for some reason I always forget them.

Either way, the SEC > PAC, still.

That doesn't automatically mean Auburn is better than Oregon.

Thus far in the schedules, Boise's teams have 24 combined wins. TCU's have 33.

Also Pac10 > SEC.