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NCAA investigating Cam Newton?
Posted: Thu Nov 04, 2010 4:10 pm
by Skjellyfetti
During the height of star quarterback Cam Newton's recruitment out of junior college last year, a man saying he represented Newton allegedly was soliciting a six-figure payment to secure his signature on a national letter-of-intent, ESPN.com has learned.
Former Mississippi State quarterback John Bond told ESPN.com a teammate of Bond's at Mississippi State in the early 1980s contacted him soon after Newton's official visit to Mississippi State during the Ole Miss game in December, and said he was representing Newton.
"He said it would take some cash to get Cam," Bond said. "I called our athletic director, Greg Byrne, and he took it from there. That was pretty much it." Multiple sources told ESPN.com that Mississippi State called the SEC office with Bond's information shortly after he brought it to the attention of the school.
Sources told ESPN.com the former teammate is Kenny Rogers, who played at Mississippi State from 1982-85. Rogers operates a Chicago-based company called Elite Football Preparation, which holds camps in Chicago, Alabama and Mississippi. A Lexis search for that business lists Kenneth Rogers as the contact and his title as "agent." A Birmingham News story from 2008 said Elite Football Preparation "matches high school athletes with college programs."
Bond said the former teammate told him other schools had already offered $200,000, but since Newton really liked Mississippi State and had a relationship with head coach Dan Mullen dating to when both were at Florida, Mississippi State could get him for $180,000.
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Re: NCAA investigating Cam Newton?
Posted: Thu Nov 04, 2010 4:30 pm
by 93henfan
I bet the NCAA will investigate this one really meticulously.

Re: NCAA investigating Cam Newton?
Posted: Fri Nov 05, 2010 6:31 am
by CrackerRiley
So, this investigation will go on for the rest of the season. When/if they find anything Auburn will have already played in the "championship" game leaving Boise/TCU/Utah out of it. Then they will have their season vacated after it's all said and done. Sounds only logical to me.
Re: NCAA investigating Cam Newton?
Posted: Tue Nov 09, 2010 9:19 pm
by siuham
Getting more fun.
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Prior to Newton's commitment to Auburn, one of the recruiters said Cecil Newton told him it would take "more than a scholarship" to bring his son to Mississippi State, a request the source said the school would not meet. Cecil Newton also referred the recruiter to a third person that would provide more specifics, the source said.
After Newton committed to Auburn, another source said an emotional Cam Newton phoned another recruiter to express regret about his change of commitment from Mississippi State, stating that his father Cecil had chosen Auburn for him because "the money was too much."
Re: NCAA investigating Cam Newton?
Posted: Wed Nov 10, 2010 8:14 am
by 89Hen
Wow. Heard they're investigating Cecil Newton's bank accounts and those of his church. I'll wait to say much, but IF this turns out to be true, WAFJ. Auburn should get the death penalty.
Re: NCAA investigating Cam Newton?
Posted: Wed Nov 10, 2010 8:21 am
by bandl
Like CR said earlier though....the NCAA won't do anything or announce their investigation results until AFTER the NC game. That way they can still deny TCU/BSU from the title game even if it means yanking the title from Auburn, should Auburn play in the game and win it.
Re: NCAA investigating Cam Newton?
Posted: Wed Nov 10, 2010 8:39 am
by 89Hen
bandl wrote:Like CR said earlier though....the NCAA won't do anything or announce their investigation results until AFTER the NC game. That way they can still deny TCU/BSU from the title game even if it means yanking the title from Auburn, should Auburn play in the game and win it.
Not sure I believe myself, but if that happens, this may be the year I stop watching I-A football.

Re: NCAA investigating Cam Newton?
Posted: Wed Nov 10, 2010 8:44 am
by dbackjon
bandl wrote:Like CR said earlier though....the NCAA won't do anything or announce their investigation results until AFTER the NC game. That way they can still deny TCU/BSU from the title game even if it means yanking the title from Auburn, should Auburn play in the game and win it.
I wouldn't doubt it.
Re: NCAA investigating Cam Newton?
Posted: Wed Nov 10, 2010 8:47 am
by clenz
Let's say the Newton family put bids out to Mississippi State but nothing came of it, so he went to Auburn without getting money.
Is asking for money, in-and-of-itself, a violation? If so, and they only put a pid out to Miss. State how could the NCAA punish anyone here other than Newton? Miss State didn't pay anyone, and neither did Auburn. What violation would have occurred?
Re: NCAA investigating Cam Newton?
Posted: Wed Nov 10, 2010 8:50 am
by bandl
89Hen wrote:bandl wrote:Like CR said earlier though....the NCAA won't do anything or announce their investigation results until AFTER the NC game. That way they can still deny TCU/BSU from the title game even if it means yanking the title from Auburn, should Auburn play in the game and win it.
Not sure I believe myself, but if that happens, this may be the year I stop watching I-A football.

I'm not sure I believe it myself....or maybe I don't WANT to believe it....but would you put it past them? Would you be THAT shocked if it were to happen? I wouldn't...
Meh. And I'd still watch some One-Eh football, just because I do enjoy watching good football teams play some good football.

Re: NCAA investigating Cam Newton?
Posted: Wed Nov 10, 2010 8:52 am
by bandl
clenz wrote:Let's say the Newton family put bids out to Mississippi State but nothing came of it, so he went to Auburn without getting money.
Is asking for money, in-and-of-itself, a violation? If so, and they only put a pid out to Miss. State how could the NCAA punish anyone here other than Newton? Miss State didn't pay anyone, and neither did Auburn. What violation would have occurred?
I believe soliciting is a violation, from both standpoints (recruit or school). I slept in my own bed last night though, so I'm not an expert on the matter today.
Re: NCAA investigating Cam Newton?
Posted: Wed Nov 10, 2010 8:54 am
by clenz
bandl wrote:clenz wrote:Let's say the Newton family put bids out to Mississippi State but nothing came of it, so he went to Auburn without getting money.
Is asking for money, in-and-of-itself, a violation? If so, and they only put a pid out to Miss. State how could the NCAA punish anyone here other than Newton? Miss State didn't pay anyone, and neither did Auburn. What violation would have occurred?
I believe soliciting is a violation, from both standpoints (recruit or school). I slept in my own bed last night though, so I'm not an expert on the matter today.
Okay.
So let's say his father was pimping him out, along with that agent and Cam is innocent here, and had no idea/involvement in this...Crazy I know to think he is innocent until proven guilty and not guilty until proven innocent.... Does Cam get punished?
Re: NCAA investigating Cam Newton?
Posted: Wed Nov 10, 2010 8:56 am
by bandl
clenz wrote:bandl wrote:
I believe soliciting is a violation, from both standpoints (recruit or school). I slept in my own bed last night though, so I'm not an expert on the matter today.
Okay.
So let's say his father was pimping him out, along with that agent and Cam is innocent here, and had no idea/involvement in this...Crazy I know to think he is innocent until proven guilty and not guilty until proven innocent.... Does Cam get punished?
This is the NCAA we're talking about here....they follow their own rules. The first of which is, they set their own rules and only abide by their own rules when it suits them.

Re: NCAA investigating Cam Newton?
Posted: Wed Nov 10, 2010 9:11 am
by 93henfan
89Hen wrote:bandl wrote:Like CR said earlier though....the NCAA won't do anything or announce their investigation results until AFTER the NC game. That way they can still deny TCU/BSU from the title game even if it means yanking the title from Auburn, should Auburn play in the game and win it.
Not sure I believe myself, but if that happens, this may be the year I stop watching I-A football.

I-A programs have been flat out paying finders fees and lavishing players and families with gifts for decades. This is not news.
Did you happen to watch ESPN's 30 for 30 last night (Marcus Dupree episode)? Oklahoma bought a house (a doublewide trailer actually, but that's what she wanted) for Dupree's mother, among many other things.
Re: NCAA investigating Cam Newton?
Posted: Thu Nov 11, 2010 1:23 pm
by siuham
I'm going to requote this part because people apparently missed it and what it implies:
After Newton committed to Auburn, another source said an emotional Cam Newton phoned another recruiter to express regret about his change of commitment from Mississippi State, stating that his father Cecil had chosen Auburn for him because "the money was too much."
Saying that (if it were true) is an implication that Cam's
father selected Auburn for Cam because
Auburn gave them too much money to ignore.
That's the implication.