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The Chase for 70 (Bowl Eligible Teams)

Posted: Wed Nov 24, 2010 11:16 am
by dbackjon
There are 35 Bowls this year, so 70 slots. Current NCAA rules state that a team must be at least get at least 6 Countable wins, and be .500 or better.

Currently, there are 65 teams that have met the criteria (6 countable wins).
34 teams have more than 6 losses, and Arizona State can not get to 6 countable wins (they played two FCS teams).

There are 3 5-5 teams (Oregon State, FIU and Troy) that need one win in the last two games to get to 6 wins.
Oregon State plays Stanford and Oregon, so likely they will not make it.
FIU plays Arkansas State and MTSU - good chance
Troy plays WKU and FAU - should win at least one.

That gets us to 67.

The other 17 teams all have 6 losses, so all will have to run the table to get to .500:
Big East:
Cincinatti UCONN Pitt - NOPE
Louisville Rutgers - possible
Rutgers Louisville WVU - NOPE

Best case scenario - one additional team. Big East Louisville to beat/eliminate Rutgers

Big 12
Colorado Nebraska - NOPE
Texas Texas A&M - NOPE

Likely neither will qualify, unless there are upsets

CUSA
Houston Texas Tech - NOPE

MAC
Western Mich Bowling Green - POSSIBLE

PAC-10
Washington Cal WSU - NOT LIKELY
California Washington - LIKELY
UCLA ASU USC - NOT LIKELY

SEC
Tennessee Kentucky - Possible
Georgia Ga Tech - Possible

SunBelt
UL-M ULL - POSSIBLE
MTSU FAU FIU - NOPE
FAU MTSU Troy - NOPE

WAC
Louisiana Tech SJSU Nevada - NOPE
Idaho Fresno SJSU - NOPE



Will a bowl have to take a sub .500 team? One can only hope!

Re: The Chase for 70 (Bowl Eligible Teams)

Posted: Wed Nov 24, 2010 11:19 am
by ASUG8
The absurdity that is the BCS is yet again demonstrated. Better they should just hand out participant trophies and rings to all the players so nobody feels like they failed. :?

Re: The Chase for 70 (Bowl Eligible Teams)

Posted: Wed Nov 24, 2010 11:23 am
by GrizFanStuckInUtah
Isn't there some rule where they can count an FCS win like every 5 years or something? I'm too lazy to look it up, but it seems like I had heard that.

Maybe Montana can go Bowling instead? We have 6 Div I wins. :mrgreen:

Re: The Chase for 70 (Bowl Eligible Teams)

Posted: Wed Nov 24, 2010 11:28 am
by dbackjon
GrizFanStuckInUtah wrote:Isn't there some rule where they can count an FCS win like every 5 years or something? I'm too lazy to look it up, but it seems like I had heard that.

Maybe Montana can go Bowling instead? We have 6 Div I wins. :mrgreen:

No - you can count ONE FCS win per year, as long as that FCS team offers 58 schollies.

You are thinking of the old rule.

Re: The Chase for 70 (Bowl Eligible Teams)

Posted: Wed Nov 24, 2010 11:42 am
by DJH
what a joke...

Re: The Chase for 70 (Bowl Eligible Teams)

Posted: Wed Nov 24, 2010 12:52 pm
by BlackFalkin
It will be funny when they have to take a sub .500 bowl for the McDonald's Dollar menu bowl

Re: The Chase for 70 (Bowl Eligible Teams)

Posted: Wed Nov 24, 2010 10:02 pm
by MrTitleist
Montana would like a post season game. KEEP THE STREAK ALIVE!!!

Re: The Chase for 70 (Bowl Eligible Teams)

Posted: Wed Nov 24, 2010 10:15 pm
by SuperHornet
Do they have a contingency plan? For me, the options are:

1. Drop the requirements.

2. Call up an available FCS team.

3. Dump the bowl.

Am I missing any possibilities? My guess is they would either go with #1 to keep the $$ stream (or what fakes as that) going or #3 to keep up appearances. Anything to keep FCS under their thumb.

Yet, I could see Delaware lose early, take a bowl spot, and do well, if not beat a lower-tier FBS school that would have lost to a 6-6 FBS that didn't materialize. And that's just an example. There are several others (both in and out of the playoffs) who would do just as well under the same scenario. It's just that the bowl folk won't admit that such schools even exist.

Re: The Chase for 70 (Bowl Eligible Teams)

Posted: Wed Nov 24, 2010 10:29 pm
by BlueHen86
SuperHornet wrote:Do they have a contingency plan? For me, the options are:

1. Drop the requirements.

2. Call up an available FCS team.

3. Dump the bowl.

Am I missing any possibilities? My guess is they would either go with #1 to keep the $$ stream (or what fakes as that) going or #3 to keep up appearances. Anything to keep FCS under their thumb.

Yet, I could see Delaware lose early, take a bowl spot, and do well, if not beat a lower-tier FBS school that would have lost to a 6-6 FBS that didn't materialize. And that's just an example. There are several others (both in and out of the playoffs) who would do just as well under the same scenario. It's just that the bowl folk won't admit that such schools even exist.
They are already talking about dropping the 6 wins requirement.

I don't see an FCS team getting a bowl invite. Although, if ASU losses you could pair with Michigan in a bowl game. Unlikely, but you could at least market that game.

Re: The Chase for 70 (Bowl Eligible Teams)

Posted: Wed Nov 24, 2010 10:48 pm
by dbackjon
First option might be a team like Arizona State that has two FCS wins.

Then, on to 5-7 teams.

Re: The Chase for 70 (Bowl Eligible Teams)

Posted: Wed Nov 24, 2010 10:56 pm
by BlueHen86
dbackjon wrote:First option might be a team like Arizona State that has two FCS wins.

Then, on to 5-7 teams.
Or let a team play in two bowl games.

A dumb idea, but so is the BCS, so they might try it. :lol:

Re: The Chase for 70 (Bowl Eligible Teams)

Posted: Thu Nov 25, 2010 12:38 pm
by SuperHornet
BlueHen86 wrote:
dbackjon wrote:First option might be a team like Arizona State that has two FCS wins.

Then, on to 5-7 teams.
Or let a team play in two bowl games.

A dumb idea, but so is the BCS, so they might try it. :lol:
There IS precedent for that, even if the NCAA chooses not to recognize it.

Then-COP played in the now-defunct Grape Bowl (in Lodi, CA) against Utah State on 15 Dec one year, followed by the Sun Bowl (I forget who they played, perhaps Rice) on New Year's Day. The crappy NCAA only recognizes the New Year's Day game.

Posted: Thu Nov 25, 2010 3:38 pm
by tampajag
BlueHen86 wrote:


Or let a team play in two bowl games.

A dumb idea, but so is the BCS, so they might try it. :lol:
There IS precedent for that, even if the NCAA chooses not to recognize it.

Then-COP played in the now-defunct Grape Bowl (in Lodi, CA) against Utah State on 15 Dec one year, followed by the Sun Bowl (I forget who they played, perhaps Rice) on New Year's Day. The crappy NCAA only recognizes the New Year's Day game.
Grape Bowl and Sun Bowl? They should have played in the Raisin Bowl next. :lol:

Re:

Posted: Thu Nov 25, 2010 7:02 pm
by BlueHen86
tampajag wrote:

There IS precedent for that, even if the NCAA chooses not to recognize it.

Then-COP played in the now-defunct Grape Bowl (in Lodi, CA) against Utah State on 15 Dec one year, followed by the Sun Bowl (I forget who they played, perhaps Rice) on New Year's Day. The crappy NCAA only recognizes the New Year's Day game.
Grape Bowl and Sun Bowl? They should have played in the Raisin Bowl next. :lol:
:lol:

Nice. :thumb:

Re: The Chase for 70 (Bowl Eligible Teams)

Posted: Thu Nov 25, 2010 9:31 pm
by FargoBison
Bye Bye Texas!

Re:

Posted: Thu Nov 25, 2010 11:51 pm
by SuperHornet
tampajag wrote:

There IS precedent for that, even if the NCAA chooses not to recognize it.

Then-COP played in the now-defunct Grape Bowl (in Lodi, CA) against Utah State on 15 Dec one year, followed by the Sun Bowl (I forget who they played, perhaps Rice) on New Year's Day. The crappy NCAA only recognizes the New Year's Day game.
Grape Bowl and Sun Bowl? They should have played in the Raisin Bowl next. :lol:
Funny. But the Raisin Bowl didn't exist then....

Re: Re:

Posted: Fri Nov 26, 2010 10:13 am
by BlueHen86
SuperHornet wrote:
tampajag wrote: Grape Bowl and Sun Bowl? They should have played in the Raisin Bowl next. :lol:
Funny. But the Raisin Bowl didn't exist then....
And your sense of humor doesn't exist now. :lol:

Re: The Chase for 70 (Bowl Eligible Teams)

Posted: Fri Nov 26, 2010 10:38 am
by Ibanez
ASUG8 wrote:The absurdity that is the BCS is yet again demonstrated. Better they should just hand out participant trophies and rings to all the players so nobody feels like they failed. :?
The BCS is like kindergarten. Nobody is really the "winner". They are all special and winners in thier own right. I would love to see Boise and TCU play a real matchup against an Auburn, PennState or top school. Give them a real game against some tough teams and let's see how things play out. Last I saw, Boise is going to play Auburn(after they defeat Alabama tonight) and they will play Oregon for the "Championship".

South Carolina plays FSU in Atlanta...what?! That'll be a nice Bowl Win for Gamecock Nation.

Re:

Posted: Fri Nov 26, 2010 10:40 am
by Ibanez
tampajag wrote:

There IS precedent for that, even if the NCAA chooses not to recognize it.

Then-COP played in the now-defunct Grape Bowl (in Lodi, CA) against Utah State on 15 Dec one year, followed by the Sun Bowl (I forget who they played, perhaps Rice) on New Year's Day. The crappy NCAA only recognizes the New Year's Day game.
Grape Bowl and Sun Bowl? They should have played in the Raisin Bowl next. :lol:
Bowl names are ridiculous. We have Godaddy.com Bowl, Fight Hunger Bowl, Meineke Bowl. :roll:

Re: The Chase for 70 (Bowl Eligible Teams)

Posted: Fri Nov 26, 2010 11:09 am
by tampajag
Ibanez wrote:
ASUG8 wrote:The absurdity that is the BCS is yet again demonstrated. Better they should just hand out participant trophies and rings to all the players so nobody feels like they failed. :?
The BCS is like kindergarten. Nobody is really the "winner". They are all special and winners in thier own right. I would love to see Boise and TCU play a real matchup against an Auburn, PennState or top school. Give them a real game against some tough teams and let's see how things play out. Last I saw, Boise is going to play Auburn(after they defeat Alabama tonight) and they will play Oregon for the "Championship".

South Carolina plays FSU in Atlanta...what?! That'll be a nice Bowl Win for Gamecock Nation.
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: that's funny

Re: The Chase for 70 (Bowl Eligible Teams)

Posted: Fri Nov 26, 2010 11:37 am
by tampajag
dbackjon wrote:There are 35 Bowls this year, so 70 slots. Current NCAA rules state that a team must be at least get at least 6 Countable wins, and be .500 or better.

Currently, there are 65 teams that have met the criteria (6 countable wins).
34 teams have more than 6 losses, and Arizona State can not get to 6 countable wins (they played two FCS teams).

There are 3 5-5 teams (Oregon State, FIU and Troy) that need one win in the last two games to get to 6 wins.
Oregon State plays Stanford and Oregon, so likely they will not make it.
FIU plays Arkansas State and MTSU - good chance
Troy plays WKU and FAU - should win at least one.

That gets us to 67.

The other 17 teams all have 6 losses, so all will have to run the table to get to .500:
Big East:
Cincinatti UCONN Pitt - NOPE
Louisville Rutgers - 34-13 4th
Rutgers Louisville WVU - 13-34 4th

Best case scenario - one additional team. Big East Louisville to beat/eliminate Rutgers

Big 12
Colorado Nebraska - NOPE
Texas Texas A&M - HELL NO!! :lol:

Likely neither will qualify, unless there are upsets

CUSA
Houston Texas Tech - NOPE

MAC
Western Mich Bowling Green - POSSIBLE

PAC-10
Washington Cal WSU - NOT LIKELY
California Washington - LIKELY
UCLA ASU USC - NOT LIKELY

SEC
Tennessee Kentucky - Possible
Georgia Ga Tech - Possible

SunBelt
UL-M ULL - POSSIBLE
MTSU FAU FIU - NOPE
FAU MTSU Troy - NOPE

WAC
Louisiana Tech SJSU Nevada - NOPE
Idaho Fresno SJSU - NOPE



Will a bowl have to take a sub .500 team? One can only hope!
fixed to reflect current games.

Re: The Chase for 70 (Bowl Eligible Teams)

Posted: Fri Nov 26, 2010 4:16 pm
by FargoBison
Looks like Colorado's hopes are dead.

Re: The Chase for 70 (Bowl Eligible Teams)

Posted: Fri Nov 26, 2010 7:31 pm
by catamount man
as of this VERY MOMENT, 66 slots have been filled. need 4 more to get to 6 wins. UL-Monroe should beat UL-Lafayette tomorrow, Cal should beat Washington, UGA should beat Ga Tech and FIU should beat Arkansas State. 70! SOLVED!

Re: The Chase for 70 (Bowl Eligible Teams)

Posted: Fri Nov 26, 2010 8:23 pm
by youngterrier
I just got in a verbal joust on Facebook about how much better of a team Wofford is the best team in the state to cheer for in comparison to USC/Clemson...easy to say numbers don't lie, and won :lol: App fans should try the same with North Carolina schools :lol:

Re: The Chase for 70 (Bowl Eligible Teams)

Posted: Fri Nov 26, 2010 8:35 pm
by AZGrizFan
dbackjon wrote:First option might be a team like Arizona State that has two FCS wins.

Then, on to 5-7 teams.
IF the ASU team that played tonight had shown up in Wisconsin and/or Stanford, they'd be in a bowl already. :ohno: :ohno: :ohno: