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FINAL SCORES 12/18
BYU 52, UTEP 24
Northern Illinois 40, Fresno State 17

IN PROGRESS
Troy 41, Ohio U 14 8:31 3Q

Troy 48
Ohio U 21
FINAL

What is it with the blowouts today? Blowouts in the college bowls and blowouts in the Cali HS bowls, too. Egad! Heck, the only games today that weren't blowouts were the D-I playoffs and the D-II, D-III, and NAIA Championship games....

Fresno State got WORKED by a directional Illinois school from possibly the weakest conference in I-A.

So much for the MWC's big signature addition from the WAC.

AZGrizFan wrote:Fresno State got WORKED by a directional Illinois school from possibly the weakest conference in I-A.

So much for the MWC's big signature addition from the WAC.

Ain't that the truth. And we actually thought for a minute that joining the WAC full-time would be a good thing? Seeing that score, I wouldn't be surprised if the average BSC team would beat Fresneck.

Of course, in their defense, NIU had the added emotion of losing Jerry Kill. They wanted to send him out a winner, and did they ever.

SuperHornet wrote:

AZGrizFan wrote:Fresno State got WORKED by a directional Illinois school from possibly the weakest conference in I-A.

So much for the MWC's big signature addition from the WAC.

Ain't that the truth. And we actually thought for a minute that joining the WAC full-time would be a good thing? Seeing that score, I wouldn't be surprised if the average BSC team would beat Fresneck.

Of course, in their defense, NIU had the added emotion of losing Jerry Kill. They wanted to send him out a winner, and did they ever.

I don't believe Jerry was on the sidelines. I distinctly heard the announcers discussing how it was the NIU coach's first game as head coach.

Louisville had to come from behind to nip Southern Miss, 31-28 in the Beef O'Brady's Bowl.

FWIW, I'm 3-1 so far in bowl picks. Waiting for Boise to put the wood to Utah tonight

Same old, same old. Some teams show up to play these games, some show up to party. Not much really on the line in these things, nobody remembers in a few years who played in these stinkers, let alone who won. Both conferences/schools get the same pay out regardless who wins.

Everybody gets a cookie!

I don't think I've watched a minute of any bowl game so far. Looking at most of the matchups I don't know if that is going to change until TCU plays Wisconsin.

Boise State beat Utah 26-3.

SDSU beat Navy 35-14. Now my pick'em's probably ruined by now.

Since the BCS championship game era, the other bowls really have no meaning unless your school is participating. This is what the NCAA feared if a playoff system was installed.

bonarae wrote:SDSU beat Navy 35-14. Now my pick'em's probably ruined by now.

SDSU dominated. The most impressive aspect was the Aztecs ability to limit Navy on the ground. Note that Hillman is a freshman this season and 4 of the 5 starting OL for SDSU return next season. There is college football once again in San Diego...finally...

Oh and Hawaii got destroyed by Tulsa in Hawaii in the Hawaii Bowl 62-35. The new look of the MWC is looking better and better everyday. Everyone say hello to the WAC II.

Gil Dobie wrote:Since the BCS championship game era, the other bowls really have no meaning unless your school is participating. This is what the NCAA feared if a playoff system was installed.

I don't get that arguement, early bowls have never really mattered, I didn't even really pay attention to pre-New Year's Eve Bowls until FSU started making them. Under the old system the only games that mattered were the New Year's Bowls.

tampajag wrote:

Gil Dobie wrote:Since the BCS championship game era, the other bowls really have no meaning unless your school is participating. This is what the NCAA feared if a playoff system was installed.

I don't get that arguement, early bowls have never really mattered, I didn't even really pay attention to pre-New Year's Eve Bowls until FSU started making them. Under the old system the only games that mattered were the New Year's Bowls.

Maybe it's just me, I used to watch all the bowls, and there used to be office pools on the bowl games, now it's just the championship game that anyone watches.

Gil Dobie wrote:

tampajag wrote: I don't get that arguement, early bowls have never really mattered, I didn't even really pay attention to pre-New Year's Eve Bowls until FSU started making them. Under the old system the only games that mattered were the New Year's Bowls.

Maybe it's just me, I used to watch all the bowls, and there used to be office pools on the bowl games, now it's just the championship game that anyone watches.

I think it's because E$PN promotes that game more than others

tampajag wrote: I don't get that arguement, early bowls have never really mattered, I didn't even really pay attention to pre-New Year's Eve Bowls until FSU started making them. Under the old system the only games that mattered were the New Year's Bowls.

Well, BCS changed everything how the FBS works.

Maybe it's just me, I used to watch all the bowls, and there used to be office pools on the bowl games, now it's just the championship game that anyone watches.

Times have changed.

bonarae wrote:

tampajag wrote: I don't get that arguement, early bowls have never really mattered, I didn't even really pay attention to pre-New Year's Eve Bowls until FSU started making them. Under the old system the only games that mattered were the New Year's Bowls.

Well, BCS changed everything how the FBS works.

Maybe it's just me, I used to watch all the bowls, and there used to be office pools on the bowl games, now it's just the championship game that anyone watches.

Times have changed.

really? more than how the old system did? You mean like how the #3 team got to win a title because #1 and #2 couldn't play even though they lost to #1 at the end of the season.('97 Sugar Bowl). Yes I'm still bitter about that whipping.

I'm not saying the BCS is perfect or even good. But it's better than what they had.Although that's like saying it's better to be peed on by R.Kelly instead of a homeless man.

tampajag wrote:

bonarae wrote:
Well, BCS changed everything how the FBS works.



Times have changed.

really? more than how the old system did? You mean like how the #3 team got to win a title because #1 and #2 couldn't play even though they lost to #1 at the end of the season.('97 Sugar Bowl). Yes I'm still bitter about that whipping.

I'm not saying the BCS is perfect or even good. But it's better than what they had.Although that's like saying it's better to be peed on by R.Kelly instead of a homeless man.

Man, you oughta give AZ a crash-course in analogies.

Grizalltheway wrote:

tampajag wrote: really? more than how the old system did? You mean like how the #3 team got to win a title because #1 and #2 couldn't play even though they lost to #1 at the end of the season.('97 Sugar Bowl). Yes I'm still bitter about that whipping.

I'm not saying the BCS is perfect or even good. But it's better than what they had.Although that's like saying it's better to be peed on by R.Kelly instead of a homeless man.

Man, you oughta give AZ a crash-course in analogies.

we have different styles

FIU beats Toledo 34-32 to win their first bowl game

tampajag wrote:I'm not saying the BCS is perfect or even good. But it's better than what they had.Although that's like saying it's better to be peed on by R.Kelly instead of a homeless man.

EPIC!!!

Air Force 14, Georgia Tech 7
NC State 23, West Virginia 7
Iowa 27, Missouri 24
Army 16, SMU 14
Illinois 38, Baylor 14
Oklahoma State 36, Arizona 10
Syracuse 36, Kansas State 34