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Was Auburn's player down?
Posted: Tue Jan 11, 2011 8:03 pm
by FargoBison
Looks like some FBS officiating controversy...
In Williams' case, the officials (a Big 12 crew) drew a clear distinction between the wrists and the hand, and a wrist on the turf means you're down and the play's over. You may not agree with that interpretation, either. But on these two critical plays over the last week either both runners are down, or both are alive. It can't be one or the other. Yet in the last week, it's gone both ways, and a championship may have been decided in that gray area. Oregon just has to deal with it. But it would be nice if there was some clarification before it happens again.
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Re: Was Auburn's player down?
Posted: Tue Jan 11, 2011 8:15 pm
by DJH
Yes he was down. It was a BS call. His wrist was clearly down, and I think that his ankle was down as well.
Oregon also had an INT taken away on a crap call too.
Re: Was Auburn's player down?
Posted: Tue Jan 11, 2011 8:36 pm
by Willie
In Arkansas' case, it didn't matter as I believe they scored on the next play.
Re: Was Auburn's player down?
Posted: Tue Jan 11, 2011 8:39 pm
by DJH
Down.
Re: Was Auburn's player down?
Posted: Tue Jan 11, 2011 8:47 pm
by Willie
And in Auburn's case, even if he was ruled down, Oregon wasn't stopping that drive.
Re: Was Auburn's player down?
Posted: Tue Jan 11, 2011 9:08 pm
by nwFL Griz
Willie wrote:And in Auburn's case, even if he was ruled down, Oregon wasn't stopping that drive.
How in the f*** do you know that? Are you able to see the future (that would have been)?
Re: Was Auburn's player down?
Posted: Tue Jan 11, 2011 9:10 pm
by Grizalltheway
Nothing to see here folks, just another manifestation of the BCS traveshamockery.
Re: Was Auburn's player down?
Posted: Tue Jan 11, 2011 9:17 pm
by SDHornet
Can't fault the ref for getting it wrong in real time, also the replay didn't look to give enough irrefutable evidence to over-rule it. Either way it doesn't change the fact that EWU is the only D-1 football champ this season.
Re: Was Auburn's player down?
Posted: Tue Jan 11, 2011 9:53 pm
by MSUDuo
Looks like the palm of the hand to me...Also agree with SD above
Re: Was Auburn's player down?
Posted: Tue Jan 11, 2011 10:51 pm
by CatMom
The
hell you say. I saw he was down in real time and all the replays showed I was right. Yes, maybe I
should be an official. (saved you all the time of asking
)
Was Auburn's player down?
Posted: Wed Jan 12, 2011 7:21 am
by DSUrocks07
Top of the wrist with the ball is down...bottom of wrist without the ball is not down.
Does one ankle equal one knee if one knee equal two feet? That does need clarification.
But regardless were not talking about this at all if ANYBODY from Oregon simply tackles Dyer because the WHISTLE didn't blow. Play until the whistle.
Re: Was Auburn's player down?
Posted: Wed Jan 12, 2011 7:27 am
by bandl
Substitute 'Delaware' for 'Oregon' and we're pretty much talking about the same thing...don't let it come down to a single play or blown call.
Re: Was Auburn's player down?
Posted: Wed Jan 12, 2011 7:33 am
by tampajag
DSUrocks07 wrote:Top of the wrist with the ball is down...bottom of wrist without the ball is not down.
Does one ankle equal one knee if one knee equal two feet? That does need clarification.
But regardless were not talking about this at all if ANYBODY from Oregon simply tackles Dyer because the WHISTLE didn't blow. Play until the whistle.
Ding! Ding! Ding! we have a winner. Sometimes I wish all games were blow outs to cut down on the complaining after the game.
Was Auburn's player down?
Posted: Wed Jan 12, 2011 7:49 am
by DSUrocks07
tampajag wrote:DSUrocks07 wrote:Top of the wrist with the ball is down...bottom of wrist without the ball is not down.
Does one ankle equal one knee if one knee equal two feet? That does need clarification.
But regardless were not talking about this at all if ANYBODY from Oregon simply tackles Dyer because the WHISTLE didn't blow. Play until the whistle.
Ding! Ding! Ding! we have a winner.
Sometimes I wish all games were blow outs to cut down on the complaining after the game.
But not by too much cuz then we're talking about the douchebag coaches who run up the score. "THESE GUYS ARE JUST KIDS!!!1!1!"
Re: Was Auburn's player down?
Posted: Wed Jan 12, 2011 7:57 am
by tampajag
DSUrocks07 wrote:tampajag wrote:
Ding! Ding! Ding! we have a winner.
Sometimes I wish all games were blow outs to cut down on the complaining after the game.
But not by too much cuz then we're talking about the douchebag coaches who run up the score. "THESE GUYS ARE JUST KIDS!!!1!1!"
you're right, now I'm really confused.
I guess all games should be between a 7-14 point margin.
Re: Was Auburn's player down?
Posted: Wed Jan 12, 2011 7:57 am
by CatMom
Continuation of the pics posted.... his knee was down before the ball crossed the goal line.
But none of this matters, really. The game is a moot point now.
Re: Was Auburn's player down?
Posted: Wed Jan 12, 2011 11:02 am
by Willie
nwFL Griz wrote:Willie wrote:And in Auburn's case, even if he was ruled down, Oregon wasn't stopping that drive.
How in the f*** do you know that? Are you able to see the future (that would have been)?
Guess you weren't watching the same game everyone else saw.
Re: Was Auburn's player down?
Posted: Wed Jan 12, 2011 11:19 am
by Grizalltheway
Willie wrote:nwFL Griz wrote:
How in the f*** do you know that? Are you able to see the future (that would have been)?
Guess you weren't watching the same game everyone else saw.
Uhh, they got plenty of stops/turnovers earlier in the game...Auburn did only win by 3, right?
Re: Was Auburn's player down?
Posted: Wed Jan 12, 2011 11:26 am
by nwFL Griz
Willie wrote:nwFL Griz wrote:
How in the f*** do you know that? Are you able to see the future (that would have been)?
Guess you weren't watching the same game everyone else saw.
I was just messing with you to see what kind of reaction you'd have.
But seriously, it wasn't like Auburn marched up and down the field all night against Oregon. I think it was still about 50/50 whether the Ducks could stop them on that drive.
Question is...if you're that Duck, how in the hell do you not hold onto that guy for dear life until you hear the whistle blow? It is the championship game after all.
Re: Was Auburn's player down?
Posted: Wed Jan 12, 2011 12:56 pm
by Willie
nwFL Griz wrote:Willie wrote:
Guess you weren't watching the same game everyone else saw.
Question is...if you're that Duck, how in the hell do you not hold onto that guy for dear life until you hear the whistle blow? It is the championship game after all.
This.
AND...when the Auburn player was ruled down at the half yard line on that same drive...did anyone happen to see the 2nd Oregon guy's miserable attempt to stop him short of the goal line?
Re: Was Auburn's player down?
Posted: Wed Jan 12, 2011 1:39 pm
by 89Hen
nwFL Griz wrote:Question is...if you're that Duck, how in the hell do you not hold onto that guy for dear life until you hear the whistle blow? It is the championship game after all.
Probably the same reason there's holding or blocking in the back on almost every punt, the same reason that Green Bay receiver got up with the INT in the EZ and walked out to the five without being touched, the same reason the Raven intercepted a 4th down pass 30 yards downfield... these guys aint that sharp.
Re: Was Auburn's player down?
Posted: Wed Jan 12, 2011 8:55 pm
by BDKJMU
DSUrocks07 wrote:Top of the wrist with the ball is down...bottom of wrist without the ball is not down.
Does one ankle equal one knee if one knee equal two feet? That does need clarification.
But regardless were not talking about this at all if ANYBODY from Oregon simply tackles Dyer because the WHISTLE didn't blow. Play until the whistle.
Bingo. We have a winner. Not down.
Re: Was Auburn's player down?
Posted: Wed Jan 12, 2011 8:56 pm
by BDKJMU
CatMom wrote:Continuation of the pics posted.... his knee was down before the ball crossed the goal line.
But none of this matters, really. The game is a moot point now.
Wrong play. Were talking about the 1st one- the 37 yard run that got Auburn into the red zone. The goal line one that they also reviewed they ruled he was down at the 1/2 yard line.