OSU & Urban Meyer: How Bout Them Apples?

[bluehenbillk]

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No 2012 Big Ten Championship Game or Bowl Game for you!!!!

[rkwittem]

Big deal. It didn't slow down USC and Ohio State is another top 5 football school like them. Urban gets to redshirt his recruits and get the team prepped for year 2, which is typically his break out year at new jobs for him. Yeah, the loss of revenue will hurt, but OSU basically prints money as an athletic department.

Ohio State should and will consider themselves lucky to have gotten a measly slap on the wrist from the NCAA.

[GrizFanStuckInUtah]

I've got some big macs and a couch they can sleep on.......

[Willie]

They got off pretty easy, and I actually breathed a sigh of relief when I saw the outcome.

At least the players involved weren't killing people, stealing cars or any of that crap.

[bluehenbillk]

I agree - they should've got a USC type penalty or worse. Got off easy.

[dbackjon]

I agree - they should've got a USC type penalty or worse. Got off easy.

Got less than USC because they cooperated, unlike USC

[tribe_pride]

Sorry for changing subjects but looks like Georgia got admonished for their coach voluntarily paying assistant coaches out of his pocket

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Why is that a violation? It has nothing to do with the players themselves and seems like a rather noble gesture. I know I am missing something but what?

[JayJ79]

and yet OSU is still allowed to play in a bowl game this season?

makes no sense.

[tribe_pride]

and yet OSU is still allowed to play in a bowl game this season?

makes no sense.

It's too late to take them out. Wouldn't be fair to Florida (their opponent). Also, if they were going to have a 1 bowl suspension, gotta think it will be worse for them next year than this one. they were only 6-6 this year. Have to figure they'll do better and would be able to get a better bowl next year.

[SuperHornet]

and yet OSU is still allowed to play in a bowl game this season?

makes no sense.

Actually, it makes practical sense. The decision came down AFTER the bowl bids came out. It would have been a logisitical nightmare to replace them this close to whatever meaningless bowl they were assigned to. Asking a foundering program to shell out $1M they don't have so they can get in with no time to prepare compared to leaving in a program that was described in this or another thread as essentially printing their own $$ isn't even a choice.

My only beef with the whole thing is that people seem to be celebrating Meyer getting hamstrung (for however short a time) when he had NOTHING to do with what generated the Buckeye sanctions. If he were trying to outrun sanctions, he'd hardly go to OSU. He'd likely follow Pete Carroll to the NFL (probably to become Carroll's division opponent in the NFC West as the OC for the Whiners).

[clenz]

and yet OSU is still allowed to play in a bowl game this season?

makes no sense.

Actually, it makes practical sense. The decision came down AFTER the bowl bids came out. It would have been a logisitical nightmare to replace them this close to whatever meaningless bowl they were assigned to. Asking a foundering program to shell out $1M they don't have so they can get in with no time to prepare compared to leaving in a program that was described in this or another thread as essentially printing their own $$ isn't even a choice.

My only beef with the whole thing is that people seem to be celebrating Meyer getting hamstrung (for however short a time) when he had NOTHING to do with what generated the Buckeye sanctions. If he were trying to outrun sanctions, he'd hardly go to OSU. He'd likely follow Pete Carroll to the NFL (probably to become Carroll's division opponent in the NFC West as the OC for the Whiners).

1. People enjoy seeing Meyer get punished because he is a pompous cry baby douche nozzle.

2. This case should have been resolved fucking months ago, which would have likely resulted in a band this year and next year....

3. 1 year ban is shit, should have been two.

4. Next year (and a one year ban in general) sucks. Meyer has complete sympathy from everyone at OSU right now, he can go 0-11 next year and his seat will be even safer than it is now. He can red-shirt every single player that has a redshirt left next year and have them go after that.

[grizzaholic]

Instead of letting OSU string out the 9 lost schollies over 3 years, why not make them lose 9 EACH year?

[rkwittem]

The key difference was that Ohio State was far more cooperative than USC was in their respective investigations.

[Willie]

Anyone who compares the USC situation with the situation at tOSU is a moron. USC fought with the NCAA every step of the way for 4 years, deny deny deny, when it was clear hundreds of thousands of dollars were being shelled out.

A student athlete making more $ than he's supposed to for a summer job, and selling their own memorabilia in exchange for a few tattoos is hardly the same.

[UNI88]

and yet OSU is still allowed to play in a bowl game this season?

makes no sense.

Actually, it makes practical sense. The decision came down AFTER the bowl bids came out. It would have been a logisitical nightmare to replace them this close to whatever meaningless bowl they were assigned to. Asking a foundering program to shell out $1M they don't have so they can get in with no time to prepare compared to leaving in a program that was described in this or another thread as essentially printing their own $$ isn't even a choice.

My only beef with the whole thing is that people seem to be celebrating Meyer getting hamstrung (for however short a time) when he had NOTHING to do with what generated the Buckeye sanctions. If he were trying to outrun sanctions, he'd hardly go to OSU. He'd likely follow Pete Carroll to the NFL (probably to become Carroll's division opponent in the NFC West as the OC for the Whiners).

OSU would have been better off banning themselves from a bowl game this year and then they probably would have been able to a bowl game next year.

Playing in a bowl game next year would have been to their advantage, it would have given Meyer several weeks of additional practice with his team in his first year of coaching. They would be better in his second year as a result.

[rkwittem]

Coulda, woulda, shoulda. Trust me, Meyer's boys will be ready to roll in year 2.

[griz37]

Anyone who compares the USC situation with the situation at tOSU is a moron. USC fought with the NCAA every step of the way for 4 years, deny deny deny, when it was clear hundreds of thousands of dollars were being shelled out.

A student athlete making more $ than he's supposed to for a summer job, and selling their own memorabilia in exchange for a few tattoos is hardly the same.

I don't think anyone has that big of a problem with what Pryor & company did. It's the fact that Sweater Vest knew about it all along & lied and then even after they were caught he continued to lie. SMU style death penalty is what I would have handed down.

[SDHornet]

Anyone who compares the USC situation with the situation at tOSU is a moron. USC fought with the NCAA every step of the way for 4 years, deny deny deny, when it was clear hundreds of thousands of dollars were being shelled out.

A student athlete making more $ than he's supposed to for a summer job, and selling their own memorabilia in exchange for a few tattoos is hardly the same.

I don't think anyone has that big of a problem with what Pryor & company did. It's the fact that Sweater Vest knew about it all along & lied and then even after they were caught he continued to lie. SMU style death penalty is what I would have handed down.

This. And a slap on the wrist is what they got in return. Plus they keep the wins that the paid players were involved with. This whole situation was laughable. A complete fucking joke.

[Willie]

They had to forfeit the Sugar Bowl money, you knew that right?

[rkwittem]

I don't think anyone has that big of a problem with what Pryor & company did. It's the fact that Sweater Vest knew about it all along & lied and then even after they were caught he continued to lie. SMU style death penalty is what I would have handed down.

This. And a slap on the wrist is what they got in return. Plus they keep the wins that the paid players were involved with. This whole situation was laughable. A complete **** joke.

And they voided a whole season, Sugar Bowl win, the accompanying Sugar Bowl payout, and lost their HC plus any shot at a national championship season this year or next.

For the moron who suggested the death penalty, please compare the Ohio State situation to the USC or SMU situations. Is a coach's lie really so meaningful and indicative of program-wide corruption to you that the NCAA should use its last-resort weapon against it?

SMU and USC were both arrogant in their dealings with the NCAA and were knowingly funneling cash or assets to their players to gain a competitive advantage. Tressel tried to protect his kids (or so he thought). Most of you can't seem to shed your anti-Ohio State glasses for a more objective lens, clearly.

[BlueHen86]

Actually, it makes practical sense. The decision came down AFTER the bowl bids came out. It would have been a logisitical nightmare to replace them this close to whatever meaningless bowl they were assigned to. Asking a foundering program to shell out $1M they don't have so they can get in with no time to prepare compared to leaving in a program that was described in this or another thread as essentially printing their own $$ isn't even a choice.

My only beef with the whole thing is that people seem to be celebrating Meyer getting hamstrung (for however short a time) when he had NOTHING to do with what generated the Buckeye sanctions. If he were trying to outrun sanctions, he'd hardly go to OSU. He'd likely follow Pete Carroll to the NFL (probably to become Carroll's division opponent in the NFC West as the OC for the Whiners).

OSU would have been better off banning themselves from a bowl game this year and then they probably would have been able to a bowl game next year.

Playing in a bowl game next year would have been to their advantage, it would have given Meyer several weeks of additional practice with his team in his first year of coaching. They would be better in his second year as a result.

I don't think OSU expected a ban, so they weren't going to risk imposing one on themselves. At the same time, even if they did self impose a ban, the NCAA might still have banned them next year.

The NCAA is a joke. The players involved should not have been allowed to play in last years Sugar Bowl.

OSU does not deserve the death penalty, but Tressel does. He should not be allowed to work in college again.

[dbackjon]

Why does Meyer deserve to never work again? You mean Tressell?

[BlueHen86]

Why does Meyer deserve to never work again? You mean Tressell?

Yes. I will fix my post.

[SDHornet]

This. And a slap on the wrist is what they got in return. Plus they keep the wins that the paid players were involved with. This whole situation was laughable. A complete **** joke.

And they voided a whole season, Sugar Bowl win, the accompanying Sugar Bowl payout, and lost their HC plus any shot at a national championship season this year or next.

For the moron who suggested the death penalty, please compare the Ohio State situation to the USC or SMU situations. Is a coach's lie really so meaningful and indicative of program-wide corruption to you that the NCAA should use its last-resort weapon against it?

SMU and USC were both arrogant in their dealings with the NCAA and were knowingly funneling cash or assets to their players to gain a competitive advantage. Tressel tried to protect his kids (or so he thought). Most of you can't seem to shed your anti-Ohio State glasses for a more objective lens, clearly.

Huh?

[rkwittem]

And they voided a whole season, Sugar Bowl win, the accompanying Sugar Bowl payout, and lost their HC plus any shot at a national championship season this year or next.

For the moron who suggested the death penalty, please compare the Ohio State situation to the USC or SMU situations. Is a coach's lie really so meaningful and indicative of program-wide corruption to you that the NCAA should use its last-resort weapon against it?

SMU and USC were both arrogant in their dealings with the NCAA and were knowingly funneling cash or assets to their players to gain a competitive advantage. Tressel tried to protect his kids (or so he thought). Most of you can't seem to shed your anti-Ohio State glasses for a more objective lens, clearly.

Huh?

Tressel lied to the NCAA to protect his butt and his players' butts. Why else would he have done so?