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CitadelGrad's PSU Bitch thread
Posted: Thu Jul 12, 2012 9:04 pm
by CitadelGrad
This column does a good job of explaining why.
http://www.johnziegler.com/editorials_d ... torial=219
However, despite what you have heard in the news media, there are also some very significant problems with the report itself and, at least at this point, there is still a whole lot more speculative smoke than actual evidentiary fire in its findings.
The most glaring omission in the report is that Freeh did speak to any of the primary witnesses in the case. Not Paterno. Not Tim Curley. Not Mike McQueary (whom he referred to as “McQuade” in the press conference). Not Jerry Sandusky.
Secondly, Freeh seems to promise far more in his press release/conclusions than he actually delivers in real evidence. Most of the media of course, at best, only read the summary and not the actual report. Thanks to that, it appears that most people have no idea that the real evidence backing up Freeh’s conclusions is, given the strong language he uses, remarkably thin.
Re: The Freeh Report is a hatchet job
Posted: Thu Jul 12, 2012 9:08 pm
by AZGrizFan
Another apologist. Excellent.
Re: The Freeh Report is a hatchet job
Posted: Fri Jul 13, 2012 5:11 am
by Ibanez
CitadelGrad wrote:This column does a good job of explaining why.
http://www.johnziegler.com/editorials_d ... torial=219
However, despite what you have heard in the news media, there are also some very significant problems with the report itself and, at least at this point, there is still a whole lot more speculative smoke than actual evidentiary fire in its findings.
The most glaring omission in the report is that Freeh did speak to any of the primary witnesses in the case. Not Paterno. Not Tim Curley. Not Mike McQueary (whom he referred to as “McQuade” in the press conference). Not Jerry Sandusky.
Secondly, Freeh seems to promise far more in his press release/conclusions than he actually delivers in real evidence. Most of the media of course, at best, only read the summary and not the actual report. Thanks to that, it appears that most people have no idea that the real evidence backing up Freeh’s conclusions is, given the strong language he uses, remarkably thin.
Good luck talking to Paterno. Mums the word.
Re: The Freeh Report is a hatchet job
Posted: Fri Jul 13, 2012 5:26 am
by andy7171
So how soon until they tear down the statue of the old creep? Nike already took his name off the Childrens Center at their HQ.
Re: The Freeh Report is a hatchet job
Posted: Fri Jul 13, 2012 5:45 am
by Ibanez
andy7171 wrote:So how soon until they tear down the statue of the old creep? Nike already took his name off the Childrens Center at their HQ.
HIs name was quickly removed from an award.
Re: The Freeh Report is a hatchet job
Posted: Fri Jul 13, 2012 10:47 am
by AZGrizFan
Let the cleansing begin.
In the shower.
Re: The Freeh Report is a hatchet job
Posted: Fri Jul 13, 2012 10:52 am
by bench
andy7171 wrote:So how soon until they tear down the statue of the old creep?
The appropriate thing to do is leave the statue up, and simply turn it around a bit so that it's looking the other way.
Re: The Freeh Report is a hatchet job
Posted: Fri Jul 13, 2012 11:10 am
by andy7171
bench wrote:andy7171 wrote:So how soon until they tear down the statue of the old creep?
The appropriate thing to do is leave the statue up, and simply turn it around a bit so that it's looking the other way.
Re: The Freeh Report is a hatchet job
Posted: Fri Jul 13, 2012 11:14 am
by AZGrizFan
andy7171 wrote:bench wrote:
The appropriate thing to do is leave the statue up, and simply turn it around a bit so that it's looking the other way.
Benchy....he don't post much, but when he does, they're home runs. He's like Mark Reynolds.
Re: The Freeh Report is a hatchet job
Posted: Fri Jul 13, 2012 11:21 am
by Ibanez
bench wrote:andy7171 wrote:So how soon until they tear down the statue of the old creep?
The appropriate thing to do is leave the statue up, and simply turn it around a bit so that it's looking the other way.
Re: The Freeh Report is a hatchet job
Posted: Fri Jul 13, 2012 11:48 am
by Grizalltheway
Just needs a nice caption.
Re: The Freeh Report is a hatchet job
Posted: Fri Jul 13, 2012 11:56 am
by andy7171
AZGrizFan wrote:andy7171 wrote:
Benchy....he don't post much, but when he does, they're home runs. He's like Mark Reynolds.
Not this year!
Re: The Freeh Report is a hatchet job
Posted: Fri Jul 13, 2012 9:00 pm
by BlueHen86
bench wrote:andy7171 wrote:So how soon until they tear down the statue of the old creep?
The appropriate thing to do is leave the statue up, and simply turn it around a bit so that it's looking the other way.
Re: The Freeh Report is a hatchet job
Posted: Mon Jul 16, 2012 6:56 am
by bluehenbillk
CitadelGrad wrote:
The most glaring omission in the report is that Freeh did speak to any of the primary witnesses in the case. Not Paterno. Not Tim Curley. Not Mike McQueary (whom he referred to as “McQuade” in the press conference). Not Jerry Sandusky.
Really? Is that the best this tool came up with? You don't even have to goto Day 1 of Law School to understand why people currently charged with crimes aren't going to talk to investigators without their attorneys advising them so....
Re: The Freeh Report is a hatchet job
Posted: Mon Jul 16, 2012 9:17 am
by ASUMountaineer
bench wrote:andy7171 wrote:So how soon until they tear down the statue of the old creep?
The appropriate thing to do is leave the statue up, and simply turn it around a bit so that it's looking the other way.
Bravo.
Re: The Freeh Report is a hatchet job
Posted: Mon Jul 16, 2012 11:59 am
by EPJr
if left up
they will have to use taxpayer money to guard it against vandelism
Re: The Freeh Report is a hatchet job
Posted: Mon Jul 16, 2012 1:11 pm
by Franks Tanks
I don't believe the report was a complete hatchet job, but I feel some of Freeh's conclusions were not backed up by hard facts. Nobody disputes the information he uncovered, but mant reasonable folks do question the hard conclusions he came to from the facts at hand.
I found the below article to be quite good.
http://www.delcotimes.com/articles/2012 ... 824761.txt" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Re: The Freeh Report is a hatchet job
Posted: Tue Jul 17, 2012 1:38 pm
by dal4018
CitadelGrad wrote:This column does a good job of explaining why.
http://www.johnziegler.com/editorials_d ... torial=219
However, despite what you have heard in the news media, there are also some very significant problems with the report itself and, at least at this point, there is still a whole lot more speculative smoke than actual evidentiary fire in its findings.
The most glaring omission in the report is that Freeh did speak to any of the primary witnesses in the case. Not Paterno. Not Tim Curley. Not Mike McQueary (whom he referred to as “McQuade” in the press conference). Not Jerry Sandusky.
Secondly, Freeh seems to promise far more in his press release/conclusions than he actually delivers in real evidence. Most of the media of course, at best, only read the summary and not the actual report. Thanks to that, it appears that most people have no idea that the real evidence backing up Freeh’s conclusions is, given the strong language he uses, remarkably thin.
There was a janitor that was a witness to these acts as well he never questioned!!!
Re: The Freeh Report is a hatchet job
Posted: Tue Jul 17, 2012 4:16 pm
by CitadelGrad
dal4018 wrote:CitadelGrad wrote:This column does a good job of explaining why.
http://www.johnziegler.com/editorials_d ... torial=219
However, despite what you have heard in the news media, there are also some very significant problems with the report itself and, at least at this point, there is still a whole lot more speculative smoke than actual evidentiary fire in its findings.
The most glaring omission in the report is that Freeh did speak to any of the primary witnesses in the case. Not Paterno. Not Tim Curley. Not Mike McQueary (whom he referred to as “McQuade” in the press conference). Not Jerry Sandusky.
Secondly, Freeh seems to promise far more in his press release/conclusions than he actually delivers in real evidence. Most of the media of course, at best, only read the summary and not the actual report. Thanks to that, it appears that most people have no idea that the real evidence backing up Freeh’s conclusions is, given the strong language he uses, remarkably thin.
There was a janitor that was a witness to these acts as well he never questioned!!!
That's because he is suffering from dementia.
Re: The Freeh Report is a hatchet job
Posted: Tue Jul 17, 2012 4:17 pm
by CitadelGrad
ASUMountaineer wrote:bench wrote:
The appropriate thing to do is leave the statue up, and simply turn it around a bit so that it's looking the other way.
Bravo.
No bravo. That quip was making the rounds on Twitter days ago.
Re: The Freeh Report is a hatchet job
Posted: Tue Jul 17, 2012 4:18 pm
by AZGrizFan
CitadelGrad wrote:dal4018 wrote:There was a janitor that was a witness to these acts as well he never questioned!!!
That's because he is suffering from dementia.
As was JoPa, apparently.
Re: The Freeh Report is a hatchet job
Posted: Tue Jul 17, 2012 4:24 pm
by Skjellyfetti
CitadelGrad wrote:That quip was making the rounds on Twitter days ago.
Now that UNH doesn't post very often we have CitadelGrad to keep us up to date on the Twitter goings on.
Re: The Freeh Report is a hatchet job
Posted: Tue Jul 17, 2012 4:26 pm
by BlueHen86
CitadelGrad wrote:ASUMountaineer wrote:
Bravo.
No bravo. That quip was making the rounds on Twitter days ago.
Maybe bench started it there too. Double Secret Bravo.
Re: The Freeh Report is a hatchet job
Posted: Wed Jul 18, 2012 5:57 am
by ASUMountaineer
CitadelGrad wrote:ASUMountaineer wrote:
Bravo.
No bravo. That quip was making the rounds on Twitter days ago.
First time I had seen it. So, get over it.
Re: The Freeh Report is a hatchet job
Posted: Wed Jul 18, 2012 7:00 am
by andy7171
ASUMountaineer wrote:CitadelGrad wrote:
No bravo. That quip was making the rounds on Twitter days ago.
First time I had seen it. So, get over it.
bench posted it last friday. It was the first time I had seen it too. Triple dog bravo!