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Will the higher and stricter academic standards of the Eligibility Center force many student-athletes to go down to D-II, NAIA, Junior College, straight to the minors (for baseball) or even Europe (in the case of men's basketball)? (Note: D-III's eligibility standards are up to the schools, and many are stricter than some D-I's.)

I'm afraid I think my statement will be true come 2016.

God forbid that HS kids have to take English, math, sciences & social studies. And they have to keep a 2.3 GPA. If a kid can't maintain a 2.3 in high school do they really belong in an institution of higher learning? Sorry to be blunt but the answer is NO.

bluehenbillk wrote:God forbid that HS kids have to take English, math, sciences & social studies. And they have to keep a 2.3 GPA. If a kid can't maintain a 2.3 in high school do they really belong in an institution of higher learning? Sorry to be blunt but the answer is NO.

andy7171 wrote:

bluehenbillk wrote:God forbid that HS kids have to take English, math, sciences & social studies. And they have to keep a 2.3 GPA. If a kid can't maintain a 2.3 in high school do they really belong in an institution of higher learning? Sorry to be blunt but the answer is NO.

Did you go JC or were Towson's standards that low?

A little off topic but this makes me wonder if teams that already had notoriously high academic standards like Notre Dame, Duke hoops, the military academies, etc. might profit from this. It might level the playing field for them and weed out some of their competition's top players who might have academic issues. Totally hypothetical, but worth considering.

rkwittem wrote:A little off topic but this makes me wonder if teams that already had notoriously high academic standards like Notre Dame, Duke hoops, the military academies, etc. might profit from this. It might level the playing field for them and weed out some of their competition's top players who might have academic issues. Totally hypothetical, but worth considering.

Probably not as there is still this

"The NCAA is now calling it an academic redshirt, a sort of nuanced version of a partial-qualifier. Students may receive a scholarship and will be eligible to practice with their teams, but won't be able to compete. Provided they pass nine credit hours in their first college semester, they can compete the following season as a redshirt freshman."

It appears they will only have to sit out one year if they can pass basic college level work .

AZGrizFan wrote:

andy7171 wrote:

Did you go JC or were Towson's standards that low?

I had high SAT scores and my recuiting coach went through the trouble of explaining my schools grading system(A=100-93, B=92-85, C= 84-76, D=75-65). And I was that damned good!

I would never have been able to get in to Towson today with my shitty high school grades. I basically put zero effort into school. It hurt me as Richmond and Bucknell told me they couldn't get me in.

I wonder if the bigtime schools will now send hush-hush "tutors" down to the high school level now to assist recruits on their radar.

I wonder how this will effect kids who PG at places like FUMA and Hargrave. Say in 2016 you have a kid who meets the old standard but not the new one, so he is faced with this "academic redshirt" for 2016. Say he goes to FUMA or Hargrave for the 2016 season, which doesn't cost him a yr of eligibility like a JUCO does. Then he signs with a school for 2017. Would he still have to do the "academic redshirt" in 2017?

andy7171 wrote:

AZGrizFan wrote:
Did you go JC or were Towson's standards that low?

I had high SAT scores and my recuiting coach went through the trouble of explaining my schools grading system(A=100-93, B=92-85, C= 84-76, D=75-65). And I was that damned good!

I would never have been able to get in to Towson today with my shitty high school grades. I basically put zero effort into school. It hurt me as Richmond and Bucknell told me they couldn't get me in.

Same grading system I had. Pissed me off that an 84 got me a C and a 92 a b. Graduated college with a higher gpa than high school


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bonarae wrote:http://espn.go.com/college-sports/story ... t-athletes

Will the higher and stricter academic standards of the Eligibility Center force many student-athletes to go down to D-II, NAIA, Junior College, straight to the minors (for baseball) or even Europe (in the case of men's basketball)? (Note: D-III's eligibility standards are up to the schools, and many are stricter than some D-I's.)

I'm afraid I think my statement will be true come 2016.

FIFY

My college grades are better than HS as well, but for a much different (and much more stupid) reason: from the time I started middle school until I started college, I never learned how to study. I still have problems when it comes to hitting the books, but I do much better now than I did then.

Andy's bane of a grading scale is much like Liberty's, and it drives me BONKERS. At the undergrad level, Liberty requires 92 for an A, and it's 94 at the grad level. I'm wondering if they'll require a 96 at the Ph.D./D.Min. level....

SuperHornet wrote:My college grades are better than HS as well, but for a much different (and much more stupid) reason: from the time I started middle school until I started college, I never learned how to study. I still have problems when it comes to hitting the books, but I do much better now than I did then.

Andy's bane of a grading scale is much like Liberty's, and it drives me BONKERS. At the undergrad level, Liberty requires 92 for an A, and it's 94 at the grad level. I'm wondering if they'll require a 96 at the Ph.D./D.Min. level....

If you are wanting a doctorate level degree you better be able to prove you can do at least 96% work....

Agreed, Clenz. There are cases of brilliant candidates with mediocre grades but they're very rare. In History, even with great grades AND a Phd it's mighty hard to get a job, which is presumably the point of great grades not to mention Phd.

Not that I was going to play college fottball but I had decent grades in HS (I did fluff off my senior year). When I sent for a transcript (oh, about 15 yrs ago) they had raised/changed the grading system and my grades were changed/lowered because of it. Pissed me the hell off.
I wouldn't have gotten into anything with the changes.

ie: what was an A- was now a B
what was a B+ was now a C+
you get the idea