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Chip Kelly stays at Oregon
Posted: Sun Jan 06, 2013 11:35 pm
by uofmman1122
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Oregon coach Chip Kelly has decided to turn down a chance to go to the NFL and instead will return to the Ducks, according to league sources.
Kelly was intrigued with the Philadelphia Eagles' head coaching job but decided he wasn't comfortable leaving the college game.
The Cleveland Browns are the only other NFL team known to have interviewed Kelly. The two sides met last week but the Browns decided to reboot their coach search after leaving Arizona late Sunday morning without landing Kelly, sources said.
Hensley: Browns Look Bad
There's no guarantee that Chip Kelly would be a success in the NFL, but missing out on hiring him is a major setback for the Browns, who played all of their chips on the Oregon coach and lost, Jamison Hensley writes. Blog
The Eagles are the only other NFL team known to have interviewed Kelly.
Philadelphia took its coaching search committee to Denver to interview Broncos offensive coordinator Mike McCoy on Sunday after a lengthy meeting with Kelly on Saturday night in Arizona.
Kelly has built the Ducks into a national power. Oregon has gone 46-7 in the last four years and made four consecutive BCS bowl games. Kelly runs a high-octane, fast-breaking offense, and elements of his schemes are already being used by New England and Washington.
Kelly may face NCAA sanctions in his return to Oregon as the school is being investigated for recruiting violations.
Re: Chip Kelly stays at Oregon
Posted: Mon Jan 07, 2013 7:06 am
by 89Hen
Kelly may face NCAA sanctions in his return to Oregon as the school is being investigated for recruiting violations.
This is perhaps the most puzzling part of this. Yes, there are other things you have to worry about the NFL that are out of your control, but not having to deal with recruiting at all has to be a HUGE weight lifted off the shoulder of a coach.
Re: Chip Kelly stays at Oregon
Posted: Mon Jan 07, 2013 7:16 am
by bluehenbillk
Kelly probably looked at the rosters of the Browns & Eagles and the opponents in their divisions and thought better of it.
Re: Chip Kelly stays at Oregon
Posted: Mon Jan 07, 2013 11:02 am
by SuperHornet
Well, with the power he was probably going to demand (i.e. GM), one could argue that he STILL had recruiting issues, just from a different context, and with fewer ticky-tack rules like when and how often one can text a player. Meeting with parents is also likely eliminated at the pro level. But you still have to find a way to convince a guy that your team is right for him.
But then there are the negatives, too. Instead of a standard "contract" of tuition, books and fees, and room and board, you have varying contracts with weird clauses, a salary cap under which you have to fit EVERYONE, managing fines, etc.
Of course, at the college level, you have compliance officers who do their best to keep you in line. For a combined HC/GM at the pro level, you don't have that.
Overall, I would NOT want to be coach AND GM. Many find that those are two full-time jobs, and that mixing them isn't worth the effort. Maybe that's what he decided.
Re: Chip Kelly stays at Oregon
Posted: Mon Jan 07, 2013 11:05 am
by 89Hen
SuperHornet wrote:But you still have to find a way to convince a guy that your team is right for him.
That's fairly $imple in the NFL.
Re: Chip Kelly stays at Oregon
Posted: Mon Jan 07, 2013 11:08 am
by SuperHornet
If you think that's the only variable in the NFL, 89, you're VERY naive. Some take a hometown discount, others won't go to certain places (in the past, Green Bay was one of those places, considered the "Siberia" of football), won't play for certain coaches, or don't want to hang with certain players. Some organizations have a rep of mistreating players, so those will be avoided by all except those drafted or traded.
It's a whole lot more complicated than just $$....
Re: Chip Kelly stays at Oregon
Posted: Mon Jan 07, 2013 11:12 am
by 89Hen
SuperHornet wrote:If you think that's the only variable in the NFL, 89, you're VERY naive. Some take a hometown discount, others won't go to certain places (in the past, Green Bay was one of those places, considered the "Siberia" of football), won't play for certain coaches, or don't want to hang with certain players. Some organizations have a rep of mistreating players, so those will be avoided by all except those drafted or traded.
It's a whole lot more complicated than just $$....
Name 5 high profile free agents that refused to go to the highest bidder.
Re: Chip Kelly stays at Oregon
Posted: Mon Jan 07, 2013 11:37 am
by andy7171
Super Horney is in rare form today!
Re: Chip Kelly stays at Oregon
Posted: Mon Jan 07, 2013 11:50 am
by danefan
SuperHornet wrote:If you think that's the only variable in the NFL, 89, you're VERY naive. Some take a hometown discount, others won't go to certain places (in the past, Green Bay was one of those places, considered the "Siberia" of football), won't play for certain coaches, or don't want to hang with certain players. Some organizations have a rep of mistreating players, so those will be avoided by all except those drafted or traded.
It's a whole lot more complicated than just $$....
No its not. There are very few rare exceptions of players who already have more money than god that don't make decisions based on money, but by and large the only thing that matters in free agency is money.
Re: Chip Kelly stays at Oregon
Posted: Mon Jan 07, 2013 11:52 am
by AZGrizFan
89Hen wrote:SuperHornet wrote:If you think that's the only variable in the NFL, 89, you're VERY naive. Some take a hometown discount, others won't go to certain places (in the past, Green Bay was one of those places, considered the "Siberia" of football), won't play for certain coaches, or don't want to hang with certain players. Some organizations have a rep of mistreating players, so those will be avoided by all except those drafted or traded.
It's a whole lot more complicated than just $$....
Name 5 high profile free agents that refused to go to the highest bidder.
You're just naive.
Re: Chip Kelly stays at Oregon
Posted: Mon Jan 07, 2013 12:10 pm
by Grizalltheway
89Hen wrote:SuperHornet wrote:If you think that's the only variable in the NFL, 89, you're VERY naive. Some take a hometown discount, others won't go to certain places (in the past, Green Bay was one of those places, considered the "Siberia" of football), won't play for certain coaches, or don't want to hang with certain players. Some organizations have a rep of mistreating players, so those will be avoided by all except those drafted or traded.
It's a whole lot more complicated than just $$....
Name 5 high profile free agents that refused to go to the highest bidder.
We're talking about a coach here, doofus, not a player. Players have a much shorter window in which they can make piles of cash. If Kelly's only concern is money, why would he decide to stay with a program that's facing potential NCAA sanctions?
Re: Chip Kelly stays at Oregon
Posted: Mon Jan 07, 2013 3:17 pm
by rkwittem
Who cares about money? The real story is that one of the 10 best coaches in football today is staying in college where he belongs.
Re: Chip Kelly stays at Oregon
Posted: Mon Jan 07, 2013 5:45 pm
by dal4018
bluehenbillk wrote:Kelly probably looked at the rosters of the Browns & Eagles and the opponents in their divisions and thought better of it.
The Eagles have better offensive talent.
Re: Chip Kelly stays at Oregon
Posted: Fri Jan 11, 2013 8:18 am
by 93henfan
andy7171 wrote:Super Horney is in rare form today!
They's always in rare form.
Re: Chip Kelly stays at Oregon
Posted: Fri Jan 11, 2013 8:50 am
by tampajag
dal4018 wrote:bluehenbillk wrote:Kelly probably looked at the rosters of the Browns & Eagles and the opponents in their divisions and thought better of it.
The Eagles have better offensive talent.
better than who?
Re: Chip Kelly stays at Oregon
Posted: Fri Jan 11, 2013 1:21 pm
by bluehenbillk
Re: Chip Kelly stays at Oregon
Posted: Wed Jan 16, 2013 10:23 am
by dal4018
tampajag wrote:dal4018 wrote:The Eagles have better offensive talent.
better than who?
Cleveland.
Re: Chip Kelly stays at Oregon
Posted: Wed Jan 16, 2013 10:24 am
by dal4018
Just saw this on ESPN bombs away eagle fans!!!!
Re: Chip Kelly stays at Oregon
Posted: Wed Jan 16, 2013 10:28 am
by bluehenbillk
And you people thought I was kidding, haha.
Re: Chip Kelly stays at Oregon
Posted: Wed Jan 16, 2013 10:41 am
by 93henfan
Re: Chip Kelly stays at Oregon
Posted: Wed Jan 16, 2013 11:07 am
by Grizalltheway
Two-timing EC trash. Have fun with the dog killer, bitch.
Re: Chip Kelly stays at Oregon
Posted: Wed Jan 16, 2013 12:05 pm
by 93henfan
Grizalltheway wrote:Two-timing EC trash. Have fun with the dog killer, bitch.
Dog killer could be released by the first week of Feb. Eagles don't owe him a dime if so.
Re: Chip Kelly stays at Oregon
Posted: Wed Jan 16, 2013 10:39 pm
by uofmman1122
Welp, shit...
Wouldn't surprise me if he's pulling a Carroll. Might have found out a bunch of NCAA shit is gonna fall on Oregon, or just might, and wants out.
Best of luck to him.
Re: Chip Kelly stays at Oregon
Posted: Thu Jan 17, 2013 7:55 am
by Grizalltheway
uofmman1122 wrote:Welp, shit...
Wouldn't surprise me if he's pulling a Carroll. Might have found out a bunch of NCAA shit is gonna fall on Oregon, or just might, and wants out.
Best of luck to him.
Truth be told, +1 on that. The guy did an amazing job and turned a pretty mediocre program into a national powerhouse.
Re: Chip Kelly stays at Oregon
Posted: Thu Jan 17, 2013 10:20 am
by 89Hen
89Hen wrote:SuperHornet wrote:If you think that's the only variable in the NFL, 89, you're VERY naive. Some take a hometown discount, others won't go to certain places (in the past, Green Bay was one of those places, considered the "Siberia" of football), won't play for certain coaches, or don't want to hang with certain players. Some organizations have a rep of mistreating players, so those will be avoided by all except those drafted or traded.
It's a whole lot more complicated than just $$....
Name 5 high profile free agents that refused to go to the highest bidder.
Hey Horney.
