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Coastal Carolina to discontinue Mens CC and Track and Field
Posted: Fri May 03, 2013 6:26 am
by Ibanez
Coastal Carolina University announced today the discontinuation of the men's cross country/outdoor track and field programs, effective at the conclusion of the 2013-14 season.
Coastal Carolina University will compete in a full schedule of events in both men's cross country and outdoor track and field during the 2013-14 season, including the Big South Championships and any NCAA postseason opportunities. Coastal will additionally honor the scholarships of those student-athletes who wish to continue their education at CCU beyond the 2013-14 season.
The Coastal Carolina Administration and the Board of Trustees authorized this step in order to reach the optimal combination of sport offerings that would provide quality opportunities to CCU student-athletes while remaining in compliance with Title IX and exercising fiscal responsibility.
Coastal Carolina has a legal obligation to comply with the federal Title IX law in relation to gender equity. Also, in response to these challenging financial times, the University Board of Trustees made a commitment to reduce its operating budget by $1 million for the 2013-14 academic year rather than raise in-state tuition. As part of the budget reduction, the Department of Athletics was directed to cut $250,000 from its operating budget. Meeting these new budgetary guidelines would not be possible without a significant change. The elimination of men's cross country/track and field programs best addresses both of these issues.
Title IX requires that the gender ratio of an institution's athletic programs reflect that of its student body. The total female/male student population at CCU is 54 percent female to 46 percent male. CCU introduced Women's Lacrosse as an NCAA sport in 2013, which added 25 female student-athletes and demonstrated a continual expansion of athletic opportunity for the underrepresented sex.
For total Title IX compliance, further steps were necessary. Approximately 50 student-athletes participate in the men's cross country/track and field programs annually. Discontinuation of the program will ultimately help Coastal reach full Title IX compliance.
"This decision is a very painful one for me, as a former student-athlete, and for the whole Coastal Carolina community," said CCU Director of Athletics Hunter Yurachek. "We understand the impact it will have on the student-athletes and their families, which is why we will continue to honor their scholarships.
"I am extremely proud of the way our current and past men's cross country/track and field student-athletes have represented Coastal Carolina University. I am also grateful for the numerous contributions and accomplishments of our men's cross country/track and field athletes both on and off the competition field. This decision is in no way meant to diminish the legacy of our men's cross country/track and field student-athletes, and we will forever consider you Chanticleers."
The discontinuation of men's cross country/outdoor track and field programs will leave CCU with the NCAA Division I minimum of 16 intercollegiate sports programs.
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Re: Coastal Carolina to discontinue Mens CC and Track and Fi
Posted: Fri May 03, 2013 4:50 pm
by SuperHornet
That's the chicken-[bleep] way most schools use to "comply" with Title IX, but it's decidedly NOT in keeping with the SPIRIT of Title IX.
Add some women's sports, Mr. AD! Liberty's been adding women's sports left and right for the last five years or so. Why can't you do the same? Surely SC isn't in the same straits Cali is!

Re: Coastal Carolina to discontinue Mens CC and Track and Fi
Posted: Fri May 03, 2013 5:17 pm
by Ibanez
SuperHornet wrote:That's the chicken-[bleep] way most schools use to "comply" with Title IX, but it's decidedly NOT in keeping with the SPIRIT of Title IX.
Add some women's sports, Mr. AD! Liberty's been adding women's sports left and right for the last five years or so. Why can't you do the same? Surely SC isn't in the same straits Cali is!

We just added women's lacrosse.
Re: Coastal Carolina to discontinue Mens CC and Track and Fi
Posted: Fri May 03, 2013 6:09 pm
by clenz
SuperHornet wrote:That's the chicken-[bleep] way most schools use to "comply" with Title IX, but it's decidedly NOT in keeping with the SPIRIT of Title IX.
Add some women's sports, Mr. AD! Liberty's been adding women's sports left and right for the last five years or so. Why can't you do the same? Surely SC isn't in the same straits Cali is!

This happens because Title IX is a chicken shit policy that doesn't work...in fact it is detrimental to pretty much every single school in the nation outside of the B1G and SEC.
Title IX does nothing to promote womens sports...it adds costs to the athletic department. Womens sports lose money in 99.999999999999% of schools across the nation....the only ones where womens sports might break even total are UCONN, Baylor, Tennessee.....and...Standford? That's only because of their womens BB programs.
Title IX forces schools to add womens sports to a level of such extreme to make up for the difference that football causes (football should be excluded from Title IX and it might work) that the only way to make up for it is to cut mens sports.
Re: Coastal Carolina to discontinue Mens CC and Track and Fi
Posted: Sat May 04, 2013 3:22 pm
by JayJ79
clenz wrote:This happens because Title IX is a chicken shit policy that doesn't work...in fact it is detrimental to pretty much every single school in the nation outside of the B1G and SEC.
Title IX does nothing to promote womens sports...it adds costs to the athletic department. Womens sports lose money in 99.999999999999% of schools across the nation....the only ones where womens sports might break even total are UCONN, Baylor, Tennessee.....and...Standford? That's only because of their womens BB programs.
Title IX forces schools to add womens sports to a level of such extreme to make up for the difference that football causes (football should be excluded from Title IX and it might work) that the only way to make up for it is to cut mens sports.
and how many mens CC/T&F programs break even?
Re: Coastal Carolina to discontinue Mens CC and Track and Fi
Posted: Sat May 04, 2013 3:33 pm
by BlueHen86
JayJ79 wrote:clenz wrote:This happens because Title IX is a chicken shit policy that doesn't work...in fact it is detrimental to pretty much every single school in the nation outside of the B1G and SEC.
Title IX does nothing to promote womens sports...it adds costs to the athletic department. Womens sports lose money in 99.999999999999% of schools across the nation....the only ones where womens sports might break even total are UCONN, Baylor, Tennessee.....and...Standford? That's only because of their womens BB programs.
Title IX forces schools to add womens sports to a level of such extreme to make up for the difference that football causes (football should be excluded from Title IX and it might work) that the only way to make up for it is to cut mens sports.
and how many mens CC/T&F programs break even?
Why does that matter?
Re: Coastal Carolina to discontinue Mens CC and Track and Fi
Posted: Sat May 04, 2013 7:01 pm
by JayJ79
BlueHen86 wrote:JayJ79 wrote:
and how many mens CC/T&F programs break even?
Why does that matter?
clenz's argument against womens sports is that most of them don't break even financially. but neither do many mens sports (outside of some football and basketball)
Re: Coastal Carolina to discontinue Mens CC and Track and Fi
Posted: Sat May 04, 2013 7:26 pm
by BlueHen86
JayJ79 wrote:BlueHen86 wrote:
Why does that matter?
clenz's argument against womens sports is that most of them don't break even financially. but neither do many mens sports (outside of some football and basketball)
True. But some men's sports do make money. The men's sports that don't make money are most vulnerable. The money making sports won't be cut, and women's sports can't be cut, so the only sports left are men's sports that don't make money.
Take the money making sports out of the equation, and then apply Title IX.
Re: Coastal Carolina to discontinue Mens CC and Track and Fi
Posted: Sat May 04, 2013 10:32 pm
by dal4018
SuperHornet wrote:That's the chicken-[bleep] way most schools use to "comply" with Title IX, but it's decidedly NOT in keeping with the SPIRIT of Title IX.
Add some women's sports, Mr. AD! Liberty's been adding women's sports left and right for the last five years or so. Why can't you do the same? Surely SC isn't in the same straits Cali is!

I was thinking that myself after seeing this.
Re: Coastal Carolina to discontinue Mens CC and Track and Fi
Posted: Sun May 05, 2013 6:17 am
by BlueHen86
SuperHornet wrote:That's the chicken-[bleep] way most schools use to "comply" with Title IX, but it's decidedly NOT in keeping with the SPIRIT of Title IX.
Add some women's sports, Mr. AD!
Liberty's been adding women's sports left and right for the last five years or so. Why can't you do the same? Surely SC isn't in the same straits Cali is!

Liberty also dropped it's men's wrestling program a few yeas ago.
Re: Coastal Carolina to discontinue Mens CC and Track and Fi
Posted: Mon May 06, 2013 6:26 am
by dbackjon
SuperHornet wrote:That's the chicken-[bleep] way most schools use to "comply" with Title IX, but it's decidedly NOT in keeping with the SPIRIT of Title IX.
Add some women's sports, Mr. AD! Liberty's been adding women's sports left and right for the last five years or so. Why can't you do the same? Surely SC isn't in the same straits Cali is!

CCU doesn't have 40,000 on-line students paying 10x what they should pay for mostly worthless degrees.
Liberty On-line is one of the biggest money-making scams in college education - and has allowed Liberty to be profitable and do things like you are saying.
Re: Coastal Carolina to discontinue Mens CC and Track and Fi
Posted: Mon May 06, 2013 6:22 pm
by SuperHornet
I really must object to that, Jon. You must be thinking of that fly-by-night U of Phoenix. Liberty has the highest of accreditation scores in ALL aspects of its educational experience, from the regional accreditation agency (the southeastern equivalent to WASC) to the national organization with online education oversight, and even in the various academic areas.
Re: Coastal Carolina to discontinue Mens CC and Track and Fi
Posted: Mon May 20, 2013 7:50 am
by bodoyle
CCU reinstated Men's T&F/CC.
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Re: Coastal Carolina to discontinue Mens CC and Track and Fi
Posted: Mon May 20, 2013 8:07 am
by Ibanez
That's great news.
Re: Coastal Carolina to discontinue Mens CC and Track and Fi
Posted: Mon May 20, 2013 10:16 am
by dbackjon
Good news - and great point the coach made about how this could cost the University more money in lost tuition than they are saving, since most of team are not on full athletic schollies.
Re: Coastal Carolina to discontinue Mens CC and Track and Fi
Posted: Mon May 20, 2013 10:25 am
by ASUMountaineer
SuperHornet wrote:That's the chicken-[bleep] way most schools use to "comply" with Title IX, but it's decidedly NOT in keeping with the SPIRIT of Title IX.
Add some women's sports, Mr. AD! Liberty's been adding women's sports left and right for the last five years or so. Why can't you do the same? Surely SC isn't in the same straits Cali is!

Liberty is a private school that doesn't have to worry about state budget cuts. CCU is a public school in South Carolina. Very bad example.
The "Spirit of Title IX" is not what you think it is. The law attempts make things equal but ends up harming others, while making it more difficult for athletic departments to operate in the black. The "Spirit of Title IX," amounts to nothing more than a quota, and is a joke.

Re: Coastal Carolina to discontinue Mens CC and Track and Fi
Posted: Mon May 20, 2013 10:25 am
by ASUMountaineer
Ibanez wrote:SuperHornet wrote:That's the chicken-[bleep] way most schools use to "comply" with Title IX, but it's decidedly NOT in keeping with the SPIRIT of Title IX.
Add some women's sports, Mr. AD! Liberty's been adding women's sports left and right for the last five years or so. Why can't you do the same? Surely SC isn't in the same straits Cali is!

We just added women's lacrosse.
Facts, who needs them? Amirite, SH?

Re: Coastal Carolina to discontinue Mens CC and Track and Fi
Posted: Mon May 20, 2013 10:54 am
by Grizalltheway
dbackjon wrote:SuperHornet wrote:That's the chicken-[bleep] way most schools use to "comply" with Title IX, but it's decidedly NOT in keeping with the SPIRIT of Title IX.
Add some women's sports, Mr. AD! Liberty's been adding women's sports left and right for the last five years or so. Why can't you do the same? Surely SC isn't in the same straits Cali is!

CCU doesn't have 40,000 on-line students paying 10x what they should pay for mostly worthless degrees.
Liberty On-line is one of the biggest money-making scams in college education - and has allowed Liberty to be profitable and do things like you are saying.
A religious organization trying to fleece people? Surely, you jest.
