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Will Muschamp the New Gamecocks HC
Posted: Mon Dec 07, 2015 1:41 pm
by Ibanez
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Will Muschamp is embracing all the lofty expectations he faces in his new job at South Carolina. They are the same championship aspirations that led to his firing at Florida.
Muschamp promised to again strive for the very best in his second go-around as an SEC coach when he was introduced to the Gamecocks community after university trustees approved his 5-year, $16 million contract earlier Monday morning.
Muschamp's contract pays him $3 million in the first year, increases each year by $100,000 and contains a variety of incentives that could net him another $1 million. In addition, Muschamp is still being paid $1.26 million by Florida in five installments.
I don't know how this can turn around. He did well at Auburn and there are rumors that Marcus Lattimore may return as a coach.
Re: Will Muschamp the New Gamecocks HC
Posted: Mon Dec 07, 2015 1:49 pm
by Grizalltheway
What the hell do schools see in this guy?
Re: Will Muschamp the New Gamecocks HC
Posted: Mon Dec 07, 2015 1:57 pm
by AshevilleApp
So is Elliott out as well? If so, he might be a good fit for an FCS Head Coaching job.
Re: Will Muschamp the New Gamecocks HC
Posted: Mon Dec 07, 2015 2:04 pm
by Ibanez
AshevilleApp wrote:So is Elliott out as well? If so, he might be a good fit for an FCS Head Coaching job.
There isn't any news yet, or none that i've seen, about coaching changes.
Re: Will Muschamp the New Gamecocks HC
Posted: Mon Dec 07, 2015 2:43 pm
by Baldy
Ibanez wrote:http://espn.go.com/college-football/sto ... -gamecocks
Will Muschamp is embracing all the lofty expectations he faces in his new job at South Carolina. They are the same championship aspirations that led to his firing at Florida.
Muschamp promised to again strive for the very best in his second go-around as an SEC coach when he was introduced to the Gamecocks community after university trustees approved his 5-year, $16 million contract earlier Monday morning.
Muschamp's contract pays him $3 million in the first year, increases each year by $100,000 and contains a variety of incentives that could net him another $1 million. In addition, Muschamp is still being paid $1.26 million by Florida in five installments.
Re: Will Muschamp the New Gamecocks HC
Posted: Mon Dec 07, 2015 3:22 pm
by Ivytalk
That doofus drew two penalties for berating refs in the Iron Bowl, and he underachieved at Florida. USC could have done better.
Re: Will Muschamp the New Gamecocks HC
Posted: Mon Dec 07, 2015 5:17 pm
by Ibanez
Ivytalk wrote:That doofus drew two penalties for berating refs in the Iron Bowl, and he underachieved at Florida. USC could have done better.
He's a lackluster hire. Maybe he'll shine in Cola. Doubt it. But, maybe.
Re: Will Muschamp the New Gamecocks HC
Posted: Mon Dec 07, 2015 6:05 pm
by OL FU
I'm routing for them but I don't get it.
Re: Will Muschamp the New Gamecocks HC
Posted: Tue Dec 08, 2015 8:38 am
by Skjellyfetti
South Carolina isn't exactly a highly coveted job.
Muschamp doesn't have a flawless resume, but I'm not sure who they could have gotten that has a better one.
Also, hard to believe that Mark Stoops is the longest tenured coach in the SEC East.
Re: Will Muschamp the New Gamecocks HC
Posted: Tue Dec 08, 2015 9:58 am
by CID1990
USC is where legendary coaches go when they want a stain on their legacies.
Re: Will Muschamp the New Gamecocks HC
Posted: Tue Dec 08, 2015 10:35 am
by Pwns
If he makes a smart choice for OC he'll do well enough to not get fired…he might even end up coaching there for the rest of his career. At Florida Brent Pease was just not a good fit for OC and after Muschamp got rid of him he really only had 1 year to try and transition to Kurt Roper's no-huddle scheme.
Re: Will Muschamp the New Gamecocks HC
Posted: Tue Dec 08, 2015 10:37 am
by Baldy
Skjellyfetti wrote:South Carolina isn't exactly a highly coveted job.
Muschamp doesn't have a flawless resume, but I'm not sure who they could have gotten that has a better one.
Also, hard to believe that Mark Stoops is the longest tenured coach in the SEC East.
Any head coaching gig (with exceptions to Vandy or Kentucky) in the SEC is highly coveted.
Re: Will Muschamp the New Gamecocks HC
Posted: Tue Dec 08, 2015 11:28 am
by 89Hen
Baldy wrote:Skjellyfetti wrote:South Carolina isn't exactly a highly coveted job.
Muschamp doesn't have a flawless resume, but I'm not sure who they could have gotten that has a better one.
Also, hard to believe that Mark Stoops is the longest tenured coach in the SEC East.
Any head coaching gig (with exceptions to Vandy or Kentucky) in the SEC is highly coveted.
Yeah, I'm not sure what Jelly was going for there.
Re: Will Muschamp the New Gamecocks HC
Posted: Tue Dec 08, 2015 11:36 am
by Ibanez
Skjellyfetti wrote:South Carolina isn't exactly a highly coveted job.
Muschamp doesn't have a flawless resume, but I'm not sure who they could have gotten that has a better one.
Also, hard to believe that Mark Stoops is the longest tenured coach in the SEC East.
Whatever your qualms are with the SEC, you can't deny that the SEC is one of the top conferences.
In terms of "National Championships",
Big12 - 11
PAC12 - 15
Independents - 17
ACC - 18
SEC - 19
Big10-39
Re: Will Muschamp the New Gamecocks HC
Posted: Tue Dec 08, 2015 11:54 am
by 89Hen
Ibanez wrote:Skjellyfetti wrote:South Carolina isn't exactly a highly coveted job.
Muschamp doesn't have a flawless resume, but I'm not sure who they could have gotten that has a better one.
Also, hard to believe that Mark Stoops is the longest tenured coach in the SEC East.
Whatever your qualms are with the SEC, you can't deny that the SEC is one of the top conferences.
In terms of "National Championships",
Big12 - 11
PAC12 - 15
Independents - 17
ACC - 18
SEC - 19
Big10-39
I'd have to believe they start to tilt the other way when you look at more recent numbers. BTW, you forgot:
Ivy - 75
Patriot - 3
Re: Will Muschamp the New Gamecocks HC
Posted: Tue Dec 08, 2015 12:04 pm
by Ibanez
89Hen wrote:Ibanez wrote:
Whatever your qualms are with the SEC, you can't deny that the SEC is one of the top conferences.
In terms of "National Championships",
Big12 - 11
PAC12 - 15
Independents - 17
ACC - 18
SEC - 19
Big10-39
I'd have to believe they start to tilt the other way when you look at more recent numbers. BTW, you forgot:
Ivy - 75
Patriot - 3
No, I didn't forget Ivy. I just didn't want to do the math of how many of those wins are FBS and how many are FCS.
I did forget the Patriot league. Thanks.
Re: Will Muschamp the New Gamecocks HC
Posted: Tue Dec 08, 2015 12:25 pm
by 89Hen
Ibanez wrote:89Hen wrote:
I'd have to believe they start to tilt the other way when you look at more recent numbers. BTW, you forgot:
Ivy - 75
Patriot - 3
No, I didn't forget Ivy. I just didn't want to do the math of how many of those wins are FBS and how many are FCS.
I did forget the Patriot league. Thanks.
The Ivy doesn't have any I-AA titles and the 3 PL were long before I-AA.
Re: Will Muschamp the New Gamecocks HC
Posted: Tue Dec 08, 2015 12:37 pm
by Ibanez
89Hen wrote:Ibanez wrote:
No, I didn't forget Ivy. I just didn't want to do the math of how many of those wins are FBS and how many are FCS.
I did forget the Patriot league. Thanks.
The Ivy doesn't have any I-AA titles and the 3 PL were long before I-AA.
Well yeah, because they don't participate.
My bad.
And I said I forgot about the Patriot league.
Re: Will Muschamp the New Gamecocks HC
Posted: Tue Dec 08, 2015 1:29 pm
by 89Hen
Ibanez wrote:And I said I forgot about the Patriot league.
I actually had no idea that Lafayette had three NC's until I looked at the list.
Re: Will Muschamp the New Gamecocks HC
Posted: Wed Dec 09, 2015 1:02 am
by Skjellyfetti
Baldy wrote:
Any head coaching gig (with exceptions to Vandy or Kentucky) in the SEC is highly coveted.
Eh. I'd put South Carolina in the group at the bottom of the SEC with Vandy, Kentucky along with Mississippi State.
It's just not a top program - and a coach like Muschamp is about the best that they could hope to do.
What better coaches out there do you think they would have had a legitimate shot at getting?
Do you think they could have hired Kirby Smart over Georgia, for example?
Ibanez wrote:
Whatever your qualms are with the SEC, you can't deny that the SEC is one of the top conferences.
What in my posts leads you to believe I have qualms with the SEC?
Re: Will Muschamp the New Gamecocks HC
Posted: Wed Dec 09, 2015 6:28 am
by Baldy
Skjellyfetti wrote:Baldy wrote:
Any head coaching gig (with exceptions to Vandy or Kentucky) in the SEC is highly coveted.
Eh. I'd put South Carolina in the group at the bottom of the SEC with Vandy, Kentucky along with Mississippi State.
It's just not a top program - and a coach like Muschamp is about the best that they could hope to do.
What better coaches out there do you think they would have had a legitimate shot at getting?
Do you think they could have hired Kirby Smart over Georgia, for example?
Ibanez wrote:
Whatever your qualms are with the SEC, you can't deny that the SEC is one of the top conferences.
What in my posts leads you to believe I have qualms with the SEC?
Bronco Mendenhall went to Virginia. He a 10X better option than Muschamp. I'm sure if SC was interested in him, Mendenhall would have gone to SC before Virginia.
Re: Will Muschamp the New Gamecocks HC
Posted: Wed Dec 09, 2015 8:25 am
by Ibanez
Skjellyfetti wrote:Baldy wrote:
Any head coaching gig (with exceptions to Vandy or Kentucky) in the SEC is highly coveted.
Eh. I'd put South Carolina in the group at the bottom of the SEC with Vandy, Kentucky along with Mississippi State.
It's just not a top program - and a coach like Muschamp is about the best that they could hope to do.
What better coaches out there do you think they would have had a legitimate shot at getting?
Do you think they could have hired Kirby Smart over Georgia, for example?
Ibanez wrote:
Whatever your qualms are with the SEC, you can't deny that the SEC is one of the top conferences.
What in my posts leads you to believe I have qualms with the SEC?
The past 2 years have been rough however they won the SEC title in 2010 and finished in the Top 25 in 2000, 2001, 2010-13. 2011-2013 were all 11 win seasons,
Lou Holtz inherited a young and weak SEC team in 1999 but was able to have good seasons in 2000 and 2001. Spurrier, the best coach we've had since joining the SEC, took us to bowl wins, a conference title win, 5 straight wins against Clemson (including one when Clemson was #6). 2011 was the most successful year for Gamecock football. Under Spurier we won 5 of the 9 bowl games we played in.
I'd say we're in the "meaty part of the curve."
Re: Will Muschamp the New Gamecocks HC
Posted: Wed Dec 09, 2015 9:49 am
by Skjellyfetti
Ibanez wrote: Spurrier, the best coach we've had since joining the SEC, took us to bowl wins, a conference title win
wat?
Re: Will Muschamp the New Gamecocks HC
Posted: Wed Dec 09, 2015 10:05 am
by Ibanez
Skjellyfetti wrote:Ibanez wrote: Spurrier, the best coach we've had since joining the SEC, took us to bowl wins, a conference title win
wat?
Sorry, mean division.
Re: Will Muschamp the New Gamecocks HC
Posted: Wed Dec 09, 2015 10:19 am
by 89Hen
Skjellyfetti wrote:Eh. I'd put South Carolina in the group at the bottom of the SEC with Vandy, Kentucky along with Mississippi State.
It's just not a top program
Not a top program compared to Alabama, LSU and Florida... but that's about it. I'd put them on par with Georgia and Tennessee as the next tier down.