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No, not for football.

Liberty joined App State in the Big East for field hockey in 2016 after a year as D-I independents following the demise of the Nor-Pac Field Hockey Conference. The remaining western schools (Cal, UOP, Stanford, and UC Davis) ironically joined the America East Conference immediately once the Nor-Pac folded.

First, Liberty and App are in a west-oriented league, and now their former conference mates are in an east-oriented league. Doesn't make much sense.



FYI, other former Nor-Pac teams include Davidson (jumped to the A-10 in 2014), Davis & Elkins (dropped the program), Longwood (now an associate member of the MAC), SW MO State (also a MAC associate), Radford (dropped the program after 2013), and Saint Louis (jumped to the A-10 after 2005). No, I've never heard of Davis & Elkins, either. They're a D-II school in WV affiliated with the Presbyterian Church (USA). One notable alumnus was the father of Pete Maravich.

Shockwaves across a dying sport.

SuperHornet wrote:No, not for football.

Liberty joined App State in the Big East for field hockey in 2016 after a year as D-I independents following the demise of the Nor-Pac Field Hockey Conference. The remaining western schools (Cal, UOP, Stanford, and UC Davis) ironically joined the America East Conference immediately once the Nor-Pac folded.

First, Liberty and App are in a west-oriented league, and now their former conference mates are in an east-oriented league. Doesn't make much sense.



FYI, other former Nor-Pac teams include Davidson (jumped to the A-10 in 2014), Davis & Elkins (dropped the program), Longwood (now an associate member of the MAC), SW MO State (also a MAC associate), Radford (dropped the program after 2013), and Saint Louis (jumped to the A-10 after 2005). No, I've never heard of Davis & Elkins, either. They're a D-II school in WV affiliated with the Presbyterian Church (USA). One notable alumnus was the father of Pete Maravich.

As soon as you posted this thread my first thought was "What happened to Davis & Elkins". Thanks for clearing that up.

bandl wrote:

SuperHornet wrote:No, not for football.

Liberty joined App State in the Big East for field hockey in 2016 after a year as D-I independents following the demise of the Nor-Pac Field Hockey Conference. The remaining western schools (Cal, UOP, Stanford, and UC Davis) ironically joined the America East Conference immediately once the Nor-Pac folded.

First, Liberty and App are in a west-oriented league, and now their former conference mates are in an east-oriented league. Doesn't make much sense.



FYI, other former Nor-Pac teams include Davidson (jumped to the A-10 in 2014), Davis & Elkins (dropped the program), Longwood (now an associate member of the MAC), SW MO State (also a MAC associate), Radford (dropped the program after 2013), and Saint Louis (jumped to the A-10 after 2005). No, I've never heard of Davis & Elkins, either. They're a D-II school in WV affiliated with the Presbyterian Church (USA). One notable alumnus was the father of Pete Maravich.

As soon as you posted this thread my first thought was "What happened to Davis & Elkins". Thanks for clearing that up.

I know, right? Can't tell you how much sleep I've lost over that.

Grizalltheway wrote:

bandl wrote: As soon as you posted this thread my first thought was "What happened to Davis & Elkins". Thanks for clearing that up.

I know, right? Can't tell you how much sleep I've lost over that.

Not sure how you could sleep with a D in your A anyway.

CAA Flagship wrote:

Grizalltheway wrote:
I know, right? Can't tell you how much sleep I've lost over that.

Not sure how you could sleep with a D in your A anyway.

A dent in my Accord?

Grizalltheway wrote:

CAA Flagship wrote: Not sure how you could sleep with a D in your A anyway.

A dent in my Accord?

Donkey in your Attic.

CAA Flagship wrote:

Grizalltheway wrote: A dent in my Accord?

Donkey in your Attic.

Yeah, that fucker is annoying. But he serves his purpose.

I didn't know App played field hockey.

In other news, App is still in the SoCon for wrestling. We ain't gone yet, bitches!

Field hockey is pretty popular up here in Baltimore. At Towson most FH players also play WLAX. They share most scholarships between the two for two sport athletes.

That said, I'll be damned if I ever let one of my girls even thinks about going to Liberty.

bandl wrote:

SuperHornet wrote:No, not for football.

Liberty joined App State in the Big East for field hockey in 2016 after a year as D-I independents following the demise of the Nor-Pac Field Hockey Conference. The remaining western schools (Cal, UOP, Stanford, and UC Davis) ironically joined the America East Conference immediately once the Nor-Pac folded.

First, Liberty and App are in a west-oriented league, and now their former conference mates are in an east-oriented league. Doesn't make much sense.



FYI, other former Nor-Pac teams include Davidson (jumped to the A-10 in 2014), Davis & Elkins (dropped the program), Longwood (now an associate member of the MAC), SW MO State (also a MAC associate), Radford (dropped the program after 2013), and Saint Louis (jumped to the A-10 after 2005). No, I've never heard of Davis & Elkins, either. They're a D-II school in WV affiliated with the Presbyterian Church (USA). One notable alumnus was the father of Pete Maravich.

As soon as you posted this thread my first thought was "What happened to Davis & Elkins". Thanks for clearing that up.

Davis and Elkins made wine coolers in the 80s. I remember them:

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WHOA! Fuck me running!!

93henfan wrote:

bandl wrote: As soon as you posted this thread my first thought was "What happened to Davis & Elkins". Thanks for clearing that up.

Davis and Elkins made wine coolers in the 80s. I remember them:

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That's what SHE said

93henfan wrote:WHOA! Fuck me running!!

So much fail.