Pac 12: Wait up you guys!

All other college sports!
Post Reply
User avatar
DuckDuckGriz
Supporter
Supporter
Posts: 1199
Joined: Fri Jul 13, 2007 12:56 pm
I am a fan of: Montana
Location: Portland, OR

Pac 12: Wait up you guys!

Post by DuckDuckGriz »

6 game regular season schedule starting 11/6

Conference championship game in Dec

https://www.pbs.org/newshour/nation/pac ... n-november


Shit I'll take it

#firelarryscott

User avatar
BDKJMU
Level5
Level5
Posts: 18332
Joined: Wed Jul 01, 2009 6:59 am
I am a fan of: JMU
A.K.A.: BDKJMU
Location: Philly Burbs

Re: Pac 12: Wait up you guys!

Post by BDKJMU »

Why not simply do 8 games like the Big 10?
The SEC/ACC/Big 12 are playing 10 games + conference champ game, and the Big 10 8 games + conference champ game. With the Pac 12 only playing 6 games + Pac 12 Champ game, virtually zero chance a Pac 12 makes the 4 team playoff.
BLM: Burning Looting Marxists

JALMOND
Level3
Level3
Posts: 3660
Joined: Tue May 05, 2009 11:04 pm
I am a fan of: Portland State
A.K.A.: JALMOND

Re: Pac 12: Wait up you guys!

Post by JALMOND »

With both the Pac-12 and Mountain West set to start end of October, early November, is the Big Sky not that far behind?

User avatar
SuperHornet
SuperHornet
SuperHornet
Posts: 16053
Joined: Fri Jul 13, 2007 7:24 pm
I am a fan of: Sac State
Location: Lodi, CA

Re: Pac 12: Wait up you guys!

Post by SuperHornet »

How are they going to do this with the entire Utah Athletic Department furloughed?!?
Image

SuperHornet's Athletics Hall of Fame includes Jacksonville State kicker Ashley Martin, the first girl to score in a Division I football game. She kicked 3 PATs in a 2001 game for J-State.

User avatar
GannonFan
Level5
Level5
Posts: 14460
Joined: Mon Jul 23, 2007 6:51 am
I am a fan of: Delaware
A.K.A.: Non-Partisan Hack

Re: Pac 12: Wait up you guys!

Post by GannonFan »

JALMOND wrote:
Fri Sep 25, 2020 1:12 pm
With both the Pac-12 and Mountain West set to start end of October, early November, is the Big Sky not that far behind?
FCS football is another thing entirely. Outside of NDSU and maybe Montana, no one really makes any money on it. And with the additional testing and logistics necessary, it's bound to lose even more money. FBS schools can play and want to play because of the TV money - it's substantial. If they weren't making boatloads of cash playing then they wouldn't.
Proud Member of the Blue Hen Nation

User avatar
BDKJMU
Level5
Level5
Posts: 18332
Joined: Wed Jul 01, 2009 6:59 am
I am a fan of: JMU
A.K.A.: BDKJMU
Location: Philly Burbs

Re: Pac 12: Wait up you guys!

Post by BDKJMU »

GannonFan wrote:
Mon Sep 28, 2020 6:46 am
JALMOND wrote:
Fri Sep 25, 2020 1:12 pm
With both the Pac-12 and Mountain West set to start end of October, early November, is the Big Sky not that far behind?
FCS football is another thing entirely. Outside of NDSU and maybe Montana, no one really makes any money on it. And with the additional testing and logistics necessary, it's bound to lose even more money. FBS schools can play and want to play because of the TV money - it's substantial. If they weren't making boatloads of cash playing then they wouldn't.
You mean P5. The G5 aren’t making boatloads of cash if they’re making any at all with the testing & logistics costs, few butts in seats, and limited P5 $$ games.
BLM: Burning Looting Marxists

User avatar
GannonFan
Level5
Level5
Posts: 14460
Joined: Mon Jul 23, 2007 6:51 am
I am a fan of: Delaware
A.K.A.: Non-Partisan Hack

Re: Pac 12: Wait up you guys!

Post by GannonFan »

BDKJMU wrote:
Mon Sep 28, 2020 7:41 am
GannonFan wrote:
Mon Sep 28, 2020 6:46 am


FCS football is another thing entirely. Outside of NDSU and maybe Montana, no one really makes any money on it. And with the additional testing and logistics necessary, it's bound to lose even more money. FBS schools can play and want to play because of the TV money - it's substantial. If they weren't making boatloads of cash playing then they wouldn't.
You mean P5. The G5 aren’t making boatloads of cash if they’re making any at all with the testing & logistics costs, few butts in seats, and limited P5 $$ games.
Yup, only the P5 make the big money. Gotta hand it to the G5, though, they're hanging in there. They seem pretty desperate to not have to fall back to being FCS. Even UMass is going to throw together a season.
Proud Member of the Blue Hen Nation

User avatar
Pwns
Level4
Level4
Posts: 6681
Joined: Sun Jan 25, 2009 10:38 pm
I am a fan of: Georgia Friggin' Southern
A.K.A.: FCS_pwns_FBS (AGS)

Re: Pac 12: Wait up you guys!

Post by Pwns »

BDKJMU wrote:
Mon Sep 28, 2020 7:41 am
GannonFan wrote:
Mon Sep 28, 2020 6:46 am


FCS football is another thing entirely. Outside of NDSU and maybe Montana, no one really makes any money on it. And with the additional testing and logistics necessary, it's bound to lose even more money. FBS schools can play and want to play because of the TV money - it's substantial. If they weren't making boatloads of cash playing then they wouldn't.
You mean P5. The G5 aren’t making boatloads of cash if they’re making any at all with the testing & logistics costs, few butts in seats, and limited P5 $$ games.
Each Sun Belt school gets about half a million in TV money a year and over a million from the CFP. You forfeit both of those with no season.
Celebrate Diversity.*
*of appearance only. Restrictions apply.

User avatar
SDHornet
Supporter
Supporter
Posts: 14315
Joined: Tue Mar 31, 2009 12:50 pm
I am a fan of: Sacramento State Hornets

Re: Pac 12: Wait up you guys!

Post by SDHornet »

Pwns wrote:
Thu Oct 01, 2020 6:05 am
BDKJMU wrote:
Mon Sep 28, 2020 7:41 am

You mean P5. The G5 aren’t making boatloads of cash if they’re making any at all with the testing & logistics costs, few butts in seats, and limited P5 $$ games.
Each Sun Belt school gets about half a million in TV money a year and over a million from the CFP. You forfeit both of those with no season.
That's not boatloads of cash, most of which will be wiped away with the testing protocols and such. Not to mention lower revenues at the gate.




If Sun Belt and MAC can have a season with all the testing protocols, there is no reason the FCS can't. Problem is the FCS won't.

User avatar
DuckDuckGriz
Supporter
Supporter
Posts: 1199
Joined: Fri Jul 13, 2007 12:56 pm
I am a fan of: Montana
Location: Portland, OR

Re: Pac 12: Wait up you guys!

Post by DuckDuckGriz »

SDHornet wrote:
Thu Oct 01, 2020 12:57 pm
Pwns wrote:
Thu Oct 01, 2020 6:05 am


Each Sun Belt school gets about half a million in TV money a year and over a million from the CFP. You forfeit both of those with no season.
That's not boatloads of cash, most of which will be wiped away with the testing protocols and such. Not to mention lower revenues at the gate.




If Sun Belt and MAC can have a season with all the testing protocols, there is no reason the FCS can't. Problem is the FCS won't.

Will television networks be willing to give FCS programs lucrative contracts in 2019?
Will any FBS program schedule and pay a guarantee of $650k+ to an FCS opponent?

Even if the FCS could allow full capacity fans into the gate, few programs may have a chance. I mean like three.
The margins are razor thin.

Testing protocols don't cause millions of dollars either.

If we aren't back to a full schedule in 2021 FCS will be dead.

I don't know why I'm yelling

User avatar
SDHornet
Supporter
Supporter
Posts: 14315
Joined: Tue Mar 31, 2009 12:50 pm
I am a fan of: Sacramento State Hornets

Re: Pac 12: Wait up you guys!

Post by SDHornet »

DuckDuckGriz wrote:
Thu Oct 01, 2020 3:00 pm
SDHornet wrote:
Thu Oct 01, 2020 12:57 pm


That's not boatloads of cash, most of which will be wiped away with the testing protocols and such. Not to mention lower revenues at the gate.




If Sun Belt and MAC can have a season with all the testing protocols, there is no reason the FCS can't. Problem is the FCS won't.

Will television networks be willing to give FCS programs lucrative contracts in 2019?
Will any FBS program schedule and pay a guarantee of $650k+ to an FCS opponent?

Even if the FCS could allow full capacity fans into the gate, few programs may have a chance. I mean like three.
The margins are razor thin.

Testing protocols don't cause millions of dollars either.

If we aren't back to a full schedule in 2021 FCS will be dead.

I don't know why I'm yelling
FCS will be fine so long as school admins are still willing to pony up the cash to sponsor FB. I always figured the P5 would play as there is just too much money at stake to not play. But everyone else, meh. Hell, the MAC basically said testing was too costly as a reason for shutting down. I'm not sure where they are finding the cash for testing to reopen, but good luck to them.

User avatar
Pwns
Level4
Level4
Posts: 6681
Joined: Sun Jan 25, 2009 10:38 pm
I am a fan of: Georgia Friggin' Southern
A.K.A.: FCS_pwns_FBS (AGS)

Re: Pac 12: Wait up you guys!

Post by Pwns »

MAC: "We can't play football, testing is too expensive!"

Big Ten: "I've changed my mind, we're uncancelling football!"

Pac: "Me too!"

Mountain West: "Me too!"

MAC: "I changed my mind it's not to expensive game on!"
Celebrate Diversity.*
*of appearance only. Restrictions apply.

User avatar
BDKJMU
Level5
Level5
Posts: 18332
Joined: Wed Jul 01, 2009 6:59 am
I am a fan of: JMU
A.K.A.: BDKJMU
Location: Philly Burbs

Re: Pac 12: Wait up you guys!

Post by BDKJMU »

SDHornet wrote:
Fri Oct 02, 2020 12:26 pm
DuckDuckGriz wrote:
Thu Oct 01, 2020 3:00 pm



Will television networks be willing to give FCS programs lucrative contracts in 2019?
Will any FBS program schedule and pay a guarantee of $650k+ to an FCS opponent?

Even if the FCS could allow full capacity fans into the gate, few programs may have a chance. I mean like three.
The margins are razor thin.

Testing protocols don't cause millions of dollars either.

If we aren't back to a full schedule in 2021 FCS will be dead.

I don't know why I'm yelling
FCS will be fine so long as school admins are still willing to pony up the cash to sponsor FB. I always figured the P5 would play as there is just too much money at stake to not play. But everyone else, meh. Hell, the MAC basically said testing was too costly as a reason for shutting down. I'm not sure where they are finding the cash for testing to reopen, but good luck to them.
Yep. 257 Division I teams 2020-2021 (130 FBS and 127 FCS) accorimg to Wiki). In a few years maybe those numbers are pared down some, with a couple G5s oullibg a Idaho, couple more just dropping football, and a bunch of FCS dropping football, but I still see the # of FBS remaining in the 120s, and FCS at well over 100..
BLM: Burning Looting Marxists

Post Reply