2015 FCS Playoffs
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Re: 2015 FCS Playoffs
I don't think we should have gotten a look for a seed over UTC, who owns the head to head. We did beat USC but the stars aligned for us on that one. I think the seeds are about right.
My only complaint is that because of regionalization, some teams have a much shorter row to hoe. The 6-5 WIU is starting out against the Pioneer champ. That might as well be a bye.
My only complaint is that because of regionalization, some teams have a much shorter row to hoe. The 6-5 WIU is starting out against the Pioneer champ. That might as well be a bye.
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Re: 2015 FCS Playoffs
JohnStOnge wrote:As noted by Kalm that's probably because they got out bid.Wildcat Ryan wrote:Am I alone in thinking that it seems wrong that the Big Sky outright champ is the only one who didn't get rewarded for what they accomplished?
Which I understand, but I guess I'm just old fashioned, I believe that the # 1 teams deserves the best reward. And not get the short end of the stick while the 2nd and 3rd place teams get the better deals because of name and money
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Re: 2015 FCS Playoffs
I agree. But I've always been a fan of teams down South and think we sometimes get hosed by the committee. I think Chattanooga and Citadel both had a gripe for a seed.CID1990 wrote:I don't think we should have gotten a look for a seed over UTC, who owns the head to head. We did beat USC but the stars aligned for us on that one. I think the seeds are about right.
My only complaint is that because of regionalization, some teams have a much shorter row to hoe. The 6-5 WIU is starting out against the Pioneer champ. That might as well be a bye.
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Re: 2015 FCS Playoffs
I like the seeds besides Richmond being in. The field of 16? Eh.
- I don't believe Richmond vs. W&M was a "win and you're seeded" game. I believe if W&M wins they are seeded, and if Richmond wins, great quality win, you're secure in the playoffs.
- 1-4 is seeded perfectly, McNeese deserved the #4 and nothing more due to SOS.
- Honestly thought that CSU would be seeded 5 or 6, and believe regionalization got them bumped to 8, by fear of plane ride for 3rd round for any team that comes out of that piece of the bracket. (I believe JSU or Chat are both bus ride trips from Charleston and Conway)
- A Coastal win probably would of had 2 Big South schools seeded.
- Fear of 3 Big South (looked down upon conference) schools in the playoffs got Liberty the boot, along with UND, for WIU, in the heavily favored MVFC (maybe they thought that was a gift to the conference for putting all of their teams on one side of the bracket? WRONG.)
- Would I replace Richmond with the Citadel? Not sure. Their resumes have kind of the same ring to it, I give Citadel a slight nod with an SEC win, 1 loss to FBS and 2 losses to Top 10 teams. Richmond has two wins over playoff teams but 2 questionable losses. (yes, this is one year I call a loss to UNH questionable, Richmond is their only good win, maybe Colgate)
- UT Chat is seeded no doubt without the loss to Mercer.
At the end of the day, I've seen much better brackets, and I've seen worse. But honestly I believe this is one of the worst. The committee really stressed saving money this year, thus we see a lot of rematches and potential rematches, and forced regionalization. Oh well, its playoff time in the FCS. Let's go boys.
- I don't believe Richmond vs. W&M was a "win and you're seeded" game. I believe if W&M wins they are seeded, and if Richmond wins, great quality win, you're secure in the playoffs.
- 1-4 is seeded perfectly, McNeese deserved the #4 and nothing more due to SOS.
- Honestly thought that CSU would be seeded 5 or 6, and believe regionalization got them bumped to 8, by fear of plane ride for 3rd round for any team that comes out of that piece of the bracket. (I believe JSU or Chat are both bus ride trips from Charleston and Conway)
- A Coastal win probably would of had 2 Big South schools seeded.
- Fear of 3 Big South (looked down upon conference) schools in the playoffs got Liberty the boot, along with UND, for WIU, in the heavily favored MVFC (maybe they thought that was a gift to the conference for putting all of their teams on one side of the bracket? WRONG.)
- Would I replace Richmond with the Citadel? Not sure. Their resumes have kind of the same ring to it, I give Citadel a slight nod with an SEC win, 1 loss to FBS and 2 losses to Top 10 teams. Richmond has two wins over playoff teams but 2 questionable losses. (yes, this is one year I call a loss to UNH questionable, Richmond is their only good win, maybe Colgate)
- UT Chat is seeded no doubt without the loss to Mercer.
At the end of the day, I've seen much better brackets, and I've seen worse. But honestly I believe this is one of the worst. The committee really stressed saving money this year, thus we see a lot of rematches and potential rematches, and forced regionalization. Oh well, its playoff time in the FCS. Let's go boys.
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Re: 2015 FCS Playoffs
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Cluck U wrote:So, you should see all the complaining vaginas over at AGS.![]()
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I went on AGS yesterday and the butt hurt was strong...especially with Big Sky fans.
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Re: 2015 FCS Playoffs
Kinda intersting that the Big Sky really caught a break with regionalization. They are the most isolated of the conferences, yet none of their three teams are slated to meet in the round of 16. All four CAA's are slated to meet, both Southland, both Big South, four of five MVFC... for many years the Big Sky guys liked to complain that they always knocked each other out (a false claim BTW)... can't complain this year.
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Oh yeah, drawing SDSU and the NDSU on the road is really "catching a break". ![Laughing :lol:](./images/smilies/icon_lol.gif)
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Grizalltheway wrote:Oh yeah, drawing SDSU and the NDSU on the road is really "catching a break".
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Re: 2015 FCS Playoffs
I think the stronger claim was that we weren't afforded as many opportunities to feast on PL and NEC teams in the playoffs as well as the regular season which lead to less victories...89Hen wrote:Kinda intersting that the Big Sky really caught a break with regionalization. They are the most isolated of the conferences, yet none of their three teams are slated to meet in the round of 16. All four CAA's are slated to meet, both Southland, both Big South, four of five MVFC... for many years the Big Sky guys liked to complain that they always knocked each other out (a false claim BTW)... can't complain this year.
UND OOC: Wyoming, Drake, NDSU
UNH: SJSU, CCSU, Colgate
1st Round Matchups:
UNH: Colgate
W&M: Duquesne
UM: SDSU
SUU: @ SHSU
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Did you play fewer games than everyone else?kalm wrote:we weren't afforded as many opportunities to feast on PL and NEC teams in... the regular season
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Classic Hen right there.89Hen wrote:Did you play fewer games than everyone else?kalm wrote:we weren't afforded as many opportunities to feast on PL and NEC teams in... the regular season
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Re: 2015 FCS Playoffs
BTWkalm wrote:UND OOC: Wyoming, Drake, NDSU
58 North Dakota State
71 Illinois State
82 Jacksonville State
86 South Dakota State
87 Northern Iowa
98 Southern Utah
99 Sam Houston State
101 James Madison
102 Chattanooga
104 McNeese State
105 Portland State
106 Harvard
108 William & Mary
109 Youngstown State
112 Dartmouth
114 The Citadel
115 Coastal Carolina
116 Western Illinois
117 Montana
119 Richmond
122 Southern Illinois
123 Charleston Southern
126 Villanova
127 Eastern Illinois
128 Samford
131 Western Carolina
133 Northern Arizona
134 Indiana State
138 Tennessee-Martin
140 Fordham
142 Eastern Kentucky
143 Towson
144 Montana State
147 North Dakota
148 South Dakota
149 Pennsylvania
150 Eastern Washington
152 Central Arkansas
153 Cal Poly-SLO
154 NC A&T
156 New Hampshire
159 Wofford
162 Weber State
163 Liberty
165 Wyoming
Feast indeed
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Re: 2015 FCS Playoffs
I don;t know what that power ranking is but it can't be any good if it has Youngstown State above
Citadel Coastal Richmond Etc. etc.
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It's sucky Sagarin, bu the point remains. Wyoming sucks donkey dick.Chizzang wrote:I don;t know what that power ranking is but it can't be any good if it has Youngstown State above
Citadel Coastal Richmond Etc. etc.
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Re: 2015 FCS Playoffs
Colgate: 18189Hen wrote:BTWkalm wrote:UND OOC: Wyoming, Drake, NDSU
58 North Dakota State
71 Illinois State
82 Jacksonville State
86 South Dakota State
87 Northern Iowa
98 Southern Utah
99 Sam Houston State
101 James Madison
102 Chattanooga
104 McNeese State
105 Portland State
106 Harvard
108 William & Mary
109 Youngstown State
112 Dartmouth
114 The Citadel
115 Coastal Carolina
116 Western Illinois
117 Montana
119 Richmond
122 Southern Illinois
123 Charleston Southern
126 Villanova
127 Eastern Illinois
128 Samford
131 Western Carolina
133 Northern Arizona
134 Indiana State
138 Tennessee-Martin
140 Fordham
142 Eastern Kentucky
143 Towson
144 Montana State
147 North Dakota
148 South Dakota
149 Pennsylvania
150 Eastern Washington
152 Central Arkansas
153 Cal Poly-SLO
154 NC A&T
156 New Hampshire
159 Wofford
162 Weber State
163 Liberty
165 Wyoming
Feast indeed
CCSU: 228
UND SOS 46
UNH 62
And it ain't just the OOC. The CAA's conference rating is closer to the the OVC than the Big Sky this year.
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Food for thought, when the Hens won the NC in 2003 they faced 10-1 SIU, 10-2 UNI, 12-1 Wofford and 15-0 Colgate. Just win. ![#coffee :coffee:](./images/smilies/coffee.gif)
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That's what you said two posts ago. If you like, I can have the court reporter read it back to you.kalm wrote:And it ain't just the OOC.
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Yes...please:89Hen wrote:That's what you said two posts ago. If you like, I can have the court reporter read it back to you.kalm wrote:And it ain't just the OOC.
And show me where I ever said it was just the OOC.Classic Hen right there.
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Re: 2015 FCS Playoffs
kalm wrote:I think the stronger claim was that we weren't afforded as many opportunities to feast on PL and NEC teams in the playoffs as well as the regular season which lead to less victories...
UND OOC: Wyoming, Drake, NDSU
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That's unusually weak sauce for you.89Hen wrote:kalm wrote:I think the stronger claim was that we weren't afforded as many opportunities to feast on PL and NEC teams in the playoffs as well as the regular season which lead to less victories...
UND OOC: Wyoming, Drake, NDSU
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And show me where I ever said it was just the OOC.
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Re: 2015 FCS Playoffs
kalm wrote:Colgate: 18189Hen wrote:
BTW
58 North Dakota State
71 Illinois State
82 Jacksonville State
86 South Dakota State
87 Northern Iowa
98 Southern Utah
99 Sam Houston State
101 James Madison
102 Chattanooga
104 McNeese State
105 Portland State
106 Harvard
108 William & Mary
109 Youngstown State
112 Dartmouth
114 The Citadel
115 Coastal Carolina
116 Western Illinois
117 Montana
119 Richmond
122 Southern Illinois
123 Charleston Southern
126 Villanova
127 Eastern Illinois
128 Samford
131 Western Carolina
133 Northern Arizona
134 Indiana State
138 Tennessee-Martin
140 Fordham
142 Eastern Kentucky
143 Towson
144 Montana State
147 North Dakota
148 South Dakota
149 Pennsylvania
150 Eastern Washington
152 Central Arkansas
153 Cal Poly-SLO
154 NC A&T
156 New Hampshire
159 Wofford
162 Weber State
163 Liberty
165 Wyoming
Feast indeed
CCSU: 228
UND SOS 46
UNH 62
And it ain't just the OOC. The CAA's conference rating is closer to the the OVC than the Big Sky this year.
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Re: 2015 FCS Playoffs
Records of teams versus the Playoff 24:
Playoff teams in Bold
FBS are Underlined
Non-D1 in Italics
Charleston Southern 2-0
Jacksonville State 2-0
Portland State 2-0
Alabama 1-0
Auburn 1-0
Dayton 1-0
Drake 1-0
Florida State 1-0
Georgia Southern 1-0
Illinois 1-0
Iowa 1-0
Iowa State 1-0
Maryland 1-0
McNeese State 1-0
Navy 1-0
Northwestern 1-0
Princeton 1-0
San Jose State 1-0
Texas Tech 1-0
Troy 1-0
Utah State 1-0
Virginia 1-0
Yale 1-0
Illinois State 3-1
North Dakota State 3-1
Delaware 2-1
Liberty 2-1
New Hampshire 2-1
Richmond 2-1
William & Mary 2-1
Western Illinois 3-3
Villanova 2-2
Bryant 1-1
Chattanooga 1-1
Coastal Carolina 1-1
Colgate 1-1
Lamar 1-1
Mercer 1-1
Montana 1-1
Northern Colorado 1-1
South Dakota State 2-3
North Dakota 1-2
Stony Brook 1-2
Weber State 1-2
Albany 1-3
Cal Poly 1-3
Northern Iowa 1-3
Youngstown State 1-3
South Dakota 1-4
Alabama A&M 0-1
Alderson-Broaddus 0-1
Army 0-1
Brevard College 0-1
Butler 0-1
Columbia 0-1
Cornell 0-1
Davidson 0-1
Duquesne 0-1
ETSU 0-1
Fordham 0-1
Houston Baptist 0-1
Jacksonville 0-1
Kansas 0-1
Kentucky Christian 0-1
Marist 0-1
Mars Hill 0-1
Mississippi College 0-1
Mississippi Valley State 0-1
Morgan State 0-1
North Greenville 0-1
North Texas 0-1
Penn 0-1
Sacramento State 0-1
Sacred Heart 0-1
Saint Francis U 0-1
Sam Houston State 0-1
San Diego 0-1
SMU 0-1
South Carolina 0-1
South Carolina State 0-1
Southeastern Louisiana 0-1
Stetson 0-1
Texas A&M-Commerce 0-1
Valparaiso 0-1
Wagner 0-1
Washington State 0-1
Western Oregon 0-1
Abilene Christian 0-2
Austin Peay 0-2
Central Arkansas 0-2
Central Connecticut State 0-2
Citadel 0-2
Eastern Kentucky 0-2
Gardner-Webb 0-2
Georgetown 0-2
Hampton 0-2
Holy Cross 0-2
Idaho State 0-2
Incarnate Word 0-2
James Madison 0-2
Maine 0-2
Morehead State 0-2
Murray State 0-2
Nicholls 0-2
Northern Arizona 0-2
Northwestern State 0-2
Rhode Island 0-2
Samford 0-2
Southeast Missouri State 0-2
Southern Utah 0-2
Stephen F. Austin 0-2
Tennessee State 0-2
Tennessee Tech 0-2
Towson 0-2
UC Davis 0-2
UT Martin 0-2
Western Carolina 0-2
Wofford 0-2
Bucknell 0-3
Eastern Illinois 0-3
Eastern Washington 0-3
Furman 0-3
Kennesaw State 0-3
Lafayette 0-3
Lehigh 0-3
Monmouth 0-3
Montana State 0-3
Presbyterian 0-3
Robert Morris 0-3
VMI 0-3
Elon 0-4
Missouri State 0-4
Southern Illinois 0-4
Indiana State 0-5
The following did not meet a single playoff team in 2015: Alabama State, Alcorn State, Arkansas--Pine Bluff,
Bethune-Cookman, Brown, Campbell, Dartmouth, Delaware State, Florida A&M, Grambling, Harvard, Howard,
Jackson State, Norfolk State, North Carolina A&T, North Carolina Central, Prairie View A&M, Savannah State,
Southern, Texas Southern
Playoff teams in Bold
FBS are Underlined
Non-D1 in Italics
Charleston Southern 2-0
Jacksonville State 2-0
Portland State 2-0
Alabama 1-0
Auburn 1-0
Dayton 1-0
Drake 1-0
Florida State 1-0
Georgia Southern 1-0
Illinois 1-0
Iowa 1-0
Iowa State 1-0
Maryland 1-0
McNeese State 1-0
Navy 1-0
Northwestern 1-0
Princeton 1-0
San Jose State 1-0
Texas Tech 1-0
Troy 1-0
Utah State 1-0
Virginia 1-0
Yale 1-0
Illinois State 3-1
North Dakota State 3-1
Delaware 2-1
Liberty 2-1
New Hampshire 2-1
Richmond 2-1
William & Mary 2-1
Western Illinois 3-3
Villanova 2-2
Bryant 1-1
Chattanooga 1-1
Coastal Carolina 1-1
Colgate 1-1
Lamar 1-1
Mercer 1-1
Montana 1-1
Northern Colorado 1-1
South Dakota State 2-3
North Dakota 1-2
Stony Brook 1-2
Weber State 1-2
Albany 1-3
Cal Poly 1-3
Northern Iowa 1-3
Youngstown State 1-3
South Dakota 1-4
Alabama A&M 0-1
Alderson-Broaddus 0-1
Army 0-1
Brevard College 0-1
Butler 0-1
Columbia 0-1
Cornell 0-1
Davidson 0-1
Duquesne 0-1
ETSU 0-1
Fordham 0-1
Houston Baptist 0-1
Jacksonville 0-1
Kansas 0-1
Kentucky Christian 0-1
Marist 0-1
Mars Hill 0-1
Mississippi College 0-1
Mississippi Valley State 0-1
Morgan State 0-1
North Greenville 0-1
North Texas 0-1
Penn 0-1
Sacramento State 0-1
Sacred Heart 0-1
Saint Francis U 0-1
Sam Houston State 0-1
San Diego 0-1
SMU 0-1
South Carolina 0-1
South Carolina State 0-1
Southeastern Louisiana 0-1
Stetson 0-1
Texas A&M-Commerce 0-1
Valparaiso 0-1
Wagner 0-1
Washington State 0-1
Western Oregon 0-1
Abilene Christian 0-2
Austin Peay 0-2
Central Arkansas 0-2
Central Connecticut State 0-2
Citadel 0-2
Eastern Kentucky 0-2
Gardner-Webb 0-2
Georgetown 0-2
Hampton 0-2
Holy Cross 0-2
Idaho State 0-2
Incarnate Word 0-2
James Madison 0-2
Maine 0-2
Morehead State 0-2
Murray State 0-2
Nicholls 0-2
Northern Arizona 0-2
Northwestern State 0-2
Rhode Island 0-2
Samford 0-2
Southeast Missouri State 0-2
Southern Utah 0-2
Stephen F. Austin 0-2
Tennessee State 0-2
Tennessee Tech 0-2
Towson 0-2
UC Davis 0-2
UT Martin 0-2
Western Carolina 0-2
Wofford 0-2
Bucknell 0-3
Eastern Illinois 0-3
Eastern Washington 0-3
Furman 0-3
Kennesaw State 0-3
Lafayette 0-3
Lehigh 0-3
Monmouth 0-3
Montana State 0-3
Presbyterian 0-3
Robert Morris 0-3
VMI 0-3
Elon 0-4
Missouri State 0-4
Southern Illinois 0-4
Indiana State 0-5
The following did not meet a single playoff team in 2015: Alabama State, Alcorn State, Arkansas--Pine Bluff,
Bethune-Cookman, Brown, Campbell, Dartmouth, Delaware State, Florida A&M, Grambling, Harvard, Howard,
Jackson State, Norfolk State, North Carolina A&T, North Carolina Central, Prairie View A&M, Savannah State,
Southern, Texas Southern
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I'll bet SUU's p!$$ed that PSU got a seed and they didn't. The first-round matchup with SHSU, however, is reasonable. Too bad the "reward" is a trip to McNeese....
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Well… PSU did beat SUU.SuperHornet wrote:I'll bet SUU's p!$$ed that PSU got a seed and they didn't. The first-round matchup with SHSU, however, is reasonable. Too bad the "reward" is a trip to McNeese....