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clenz wrote: NDSU doesn't want to go on the road. You couldn't pay them enough to make up their lost revenue for a home game.

It's tough for them to schedule in general. They've gotten too good to schedule, add in the demands they'll put in and it'll be tough.

Last year they were willing to go with 11 in a 12 game year and this year they were willing to ride 10 in an 11

North Dakota State and Weber State just ended a home and home that even started in Ogden, and it's not like Weber is just crawling in money. I have a hard time finding that statement to be true. If anything North Dakota State has proven to me they are willing to play anybody in any stadium.

There have been times I had wanted Weber to schedule the Grizzlies or Bobcats when they didn't play each other in conference that year, but I don't know if there has been any communication between Weber and the Montana's, I always figured Montana and Montana State could make more money playing an OOC home game than playing and OOC road game at Weber. Which I'm sure would be a huge factor.

I do know that the AD at Weber and the AD at Sacramento State are friends and that may be why Weber and Sacramento State have continued to play each other despite 4 years in a row not playing each other in conference, which is fine with me since it continues to build on the rivalry that has kind of spawned between the two schools, and it may just continue in other seasons the Cats and Hornets don't play each other in conference play.
It was part of a H/H is the key deal.

It was also set to be a road game for NDSU in a 12 game year where they got UIW and Montana at home - a money game and the front end of a H/H. 2015 saw Weber State finish that H/H while Montana went on the road to Montana to finish that H/H. Also had the front end of a H/H deal with UND.

See how that scheduling works? This year NDSU is doing the first year of a H/H with EWU to get a home game and ESPN said "Here's money and a primtime game on ESPN if you get a home game" and they weren't about to go on the road. It's also an 11 game season and they play at Iowa. NDSU losing a 6th home game would lose them north of $600,000. It would also mean their schedule would have gone 5 of the first 8 on the road.

2017 has NDSU returning the EWU game and a buy game vs Robert Morris. If a FBS game doesn't happen expect to see a home game filled with another buy game or, more likely the front end of a H/H with a Big Sky team that takes place in Fargo
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BDKJMU wrote:Rumor on the JMU board is ESPN wanted it JMU @ NDSU. It was gonna happen but NDSU didn't want to give a return game (I'm assuming JMU didn't want to do a one and done). 2 pretty reputable posters claiming that from a "source" in the AD dept.
The schedules may not have worked out for NDSU and JMU for the home and home to work. NDSU just finished a home and home with Montana and Weber St. They are currently doing home and home with EWU. Bison have a road game with EWU next year.
Why not make the EWU/NDSU game the FCS kickoff? It seemed like a no-brainer when they initially announced NDSU would host this year.
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June 5th....kickoff is less than 3 months away!!!!

How cool this will be. ESPN. The 1st game of college football. All eyes on NDSU vs CSU.

It's almost impossible for this to be a negative for CSU. National exposure against the #1 ranked team. Only game on TV. Huge opportunity for CSU and I'm thankful to NDSU for the opportunity because really....it's almost a no-win for them. CSU is pretty good....but the name brand isn't historically known at all. Losing to CSU would be a disaster in perception. Even if CSU is ranked high.

My true blue Buccaneers Football for life side says we're winning this shit somehow. They said in the past we'd never beat Liberty or App State or Coastal or Citadel....and we did it. We'll find a way.

My rational side says NDSU is #1 and 5x defending national champions. Outside of Alabama, Florida State, Georgia, etc.....this team is easily the best opponent in school history (and yes...that includes better than Vandy, Kentucky, Miami-Ohio, Troy in my respectful opinion). So....it's a huge uphill fight.


If we can keep it within 21....I won't be "happy"....but I won't be upset either.

But...we're gonna win it!!!!
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23 days and we rock the Dome. Safe travels to the Chuck South fans.
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bucs90 wrote:June 5th....kickoff is less than 3 months away!!!!

How cool this will be. ESPN. The 1st game of college football. All eyes on NDSU vs CSU.

It's almost impossible for this to be a negative for CSU. National exposure against the #1 ranked team. Only game on TV. Huge opportunity for CSU and I'm thankful to NDSU for the opportunity because really....it's almost a no-win for them. CSU is pretty good....but the name brand isn't historically known at all. Losing to CSU would be a disaster in perception. Even if CSU is ranked high.

My true blue Buccaneers Football for life side says we're winning this **** somehow. They said in the past we'd never beat Liberty or App State or Coastal or Citadel....and we did it. We'll find a way.

My rational side says NDSU is #1 and 5x defending national champions. Outside of Alabama, Florida State, Georgia, etc.....this team is easily the best opponent in school history (and yes...that includes better than Vandy, Kentucky, Miami-Ohio, Troy in my respectful opinion). So....it's a huge uphill fight.


If we can keep it within 21....I won't be "happy"....but I won't be upset either.

But...we're gonna win it!!!!
I wore my NDSU gear around San Diego the week after the NDSU vs Montana FCS Kickoff last season, and people all over the city commented on it. I mean they only could parrot whatever bullshit the ESPN announcers were peddling, but believe me, people outside of the media markets of ND and MT ate that shit up. The portion of the country interested in college football will watch CSU play. Count on it.
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Twentysix wrote:
bucs90 wrote:June 5th....kickoff is less than 3 months away!!!!

How cool this will be. ESPN. The 1st game of college football. All eyes on NDSU vs CSU.

It's almost impossible for this to be a negative for CSU. National exposure against the #1 ranked team. Only game on TV. Huge opportunity for CSU and I'm thankful to NDSU for the opportunity because really....it's almost a no-win for them. CSU is pretty good....but the name brand isn't historically known at all. Losing to CSU would be a disaster in perception. Even if CSU is ranked high.

My true blue Buccaneers Football for life side says we're winning this **** somehow. They said in the past we'd never beat Liberty or App State or Coastal or Citadel....and we did it. We'll find a way.

My rational side says NDSU is #1 and 5x defending national champions. Outside of Alabama, Florida State, Georgia, etc.....this team is easily the best opponent in school history (and yes...that includes better than Vandy, Kentucky, Miami-Ohio, Troy in my respectful opinion). So....it's a huge uphill fight.


If we can keep it within 21....I won't be "happy"....but I won't be upset either.

But...we're gonna win it!!!!
I wore my NDSU gear around San Diego the week after the NDSU vs Montana FCS Kickoff last season, and people all over the city commented on it. I mean they only could parrot whatever bullshit the ESPN announcers were peddling, but believe me, people outside of the media markets of ND and MT ate that **** up. The portion of the country interested in college football will watch CSU play. Count on it.

Yep. This is a huge deal for CSU. The actual on field game itself aside....it's a huge moment of exposure for us. Maybe the top moment of exposure ever for our program. Prime Time on ESPN1. ONLY game on. Everyone watching bc of the thirst for football! NDSU has indeed built itself up almost to Boise state status in a way. Seems everyone at least knows about NDSU. Those Big 12 upsets put em on the map. Especially that K State thriller.

I have to tip my hat to NDSU and thank them for agreeing to this game. We have a great team this year but we obviously don't have great history and have very little name recognition, so NDSU is really giving us a huge stage to showcase our program that we wouldn't get any other way.


Saturday August 27th. 7pm. On ESPN. ONLY 2 teams in America playing...NDSU vs CSU.

Man I can't even put into words how excited I am for this damn thing!!!
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Twentysix wrote:
I wore my NDSU gear around San Diego the week after the NDSU vs Montana FCS Kickoff last season, and people all over the city commented on it. I mean they only could parrot whatever bullshit the ESPN announcers were peddling, but believe me, people outside of the media markets of ND and MT ate that **** up. The portion of the country interested in college football will watch CSU play. Count on it.

Yep. This is a huge deal for CSU. The actual on field game itself aside....it's a huge moment of exposure for us. Maybe the top moment of exposure ever for our program. Prime Time on ESPN1. ONLY game on. Everyone watching bc of the thirst for football! NDSU has indeed built itself up almost to Boise state status in a way. Seems everyone at least knows about NDSU. Those Big 12 upsets put em on the map. Especially that K State thriller.

I have to tip my hat to NDSU and thank them for agreeing to this game. We have a great team this year but we obviously don't have great history and have very little name recognition, so NDSU is really giving us a huge stage to showcase our program that we wouldn't get any other way.


Saturday August 27th. 7pm. On ESPN. ONLY 2 teams in America playing...NDSU vs CSU.

Man I can't even put into words how excited I am for this damn thing!!!
We tip our hat to you also for accepting. There are a lot of schools out there that dont have the balls to play us.
Not talking smart. Its just a fact we cant get team to come to Fargo. I was glad to see that the game was with you guys especially the fact you made the playoffs last year. I look for a good game.
If youre coming to Fargo give me a shout here and we will make sure you come to our tailgate!
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I'm looking forward to the Kickoff Classic and was curious to know from the Bison fans, what in your opinion is the biggest weakness on this years squad? What are you concerned about, if anything? Not just for opening day but for the whole season. The domination of FCS by NDSU is impressive
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CSUBUCDAD wrote:Hey to be the best you have to beat the best. I applaud CSU for scheduling the toughest team in the FCS right out of the gate. Might be a little better game that most of you think.
I couldn't agree more with ya. NDSU's success isn't stopping them for shooting for more FBS games in 2017,2018, 2019,. We are schedule for Oregon Ducks 2020, and 2024 with Colorado but we have many upcoming years to schedule either Big 12 or PAC 12 teams and our Athletic Director has many connections with FBS western teams.
You are only as good as your competition, so coming up to play us puts you in the national spot light, helps exposure to your school, and you see where your program is at compared to a Dynasty like NDSU who never got a crack at App.State only GSU twice which one game was great, the other a blow out.

We are sitting perfect in Title Town FCS USA! With the college power 5 conferences realigning more teams, there will be a new Mid FBS Division Conference I believe in the next 2 to 3 years and NDSU could get an invite to join a FBS Division that could be with KState, Idaho, Kansas, Iowa State, Wyoming, Colorado State, Oklahoma State Maybe....
It could be a new North Central Conference FBS Mid Level size. So if they just keep playing dominant FCS power football, we won't be in the FCS for more then maybe 4 more years, as the Bison will be moving up with invites I would guess. But then we need a bigger stadium so here we go, raise the money, etc.....NDSU has a tremendous Alumni so lots of $$$$ there. Ask Frisco Texas.
Raise the bar, right?

Can't wait to see how your team is, I think you are lot like we were in 2010 on the up and up. But just be ready we will play like Bama so your boys be ready as they will need fresh legs to outlast us which we are deep 2 to 3 lines deep per position, which many 2nd and 3rd stringers would be starting at any other FCS program. I have never seen the recruiting so high over the past 4 to 5 years.... great players coming up to Fargo instead of FBS Schools or other top FCS schools. Remarkable.

Bring your A Game Bucs, I want to see the Bison pushed, make them work hard so they can prepare for their 2nd National Televised game in 3 weeks on ESPN against Iowa Hawkeyes as this game is a pickem game? 50-50 both Hawk Fans and Bison Fans are stuck on this one. Make sure to tune in Sept.17th, as we will be taking down another FBS team who is ranked 14th in the nation. Oh by the way I didn't forget Eastern Washington 2nd game of the year, I'm more concerned with your team then the Red Birdies in Washington, we will destroy them.

21 days till kickoff in Title Town,
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BucDad62 wrote:I'm looking forward to the Kickoff Classic and was curious to know from the Bison fans, what in your opinion is the biggest weakness on this years squad? What are you concerned about, if anything? Not just for opening day but for the whole season. The domination of FCS by NDSU is impressive
NDSU's biggest weakness is an area CSU can't/won't challenge - the secondary.
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clenz wrote:
BucDad62 wrote:I'm looking forward to the Kickoff Classic and was curious to know from the Bison fans, what in your opinion is the biggest weakness on this years squad? What are you concerned about, if anything? Not just for opening day but for the whole season. The domination of FCS by NDSU is impressive
NDSU's biggest weakness is an area CSU can't/won't challenge - the secondary.
NDSU's biggest weakness will be playing at the UNIdome this year.
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Yep. This is a huge deal for CSU. The actual on field game itself aside....it's a huge moment of exposure for us. Maybe the top moment of exposure ever for our program. Prime Time on ESPN1. ONLY game on. Everyone watching bc of the thirst for football! NDSU has indeed built itself up almost to Boise state status in a way. Seems everyone at least knows about NDSU. Those Big 12 upsets put em on the map. Especially that K State thriller.

I have to tip my hat to NDSU and thank them for agreeing to this game. We have a great team this year but we obviously don't have great history and have very little name recognition, so NDSU is really giving us a huge stage to showcase our program that we wouldn't get any other way.


Saturday August 27th. 7pm. On ESPN. ONLY 2 teams in America playing...NDSU vs CSU.

Man I can't even put into words how excited I am for this damn thing!!!
We tip our hat to you also for accepting. There are a lot of schools out there that dont have the balls to play us.
Not talking smart. Its just a fact we cant get team to come to Fargo. I was glad to see that the game was with you guys especially the fact you made the playoffs last year. I look for a good game.
If youre coming to Fargo give me a shout here and we will make sure you come to our tailgate!
Absolutely right man. Hey yall are King of the Hill right now. Lots of people don't want that early season matchup. And it's understandable. Some teams are breaking in new starters and Fargo probably isn't the place for it. I saw the discussion about the H/H deal and stuff. I don't take much into that. Any team would want as many home games as possible. Only the best can dictate it though, like elite SEC teams in FBS.

I'm glad this game happens when CSU is a legit top 15 team. As I said....I'm hoping win or lose this is just game 1 of 2 this year vs NDSU!
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NoDakBisman wrote:
CSUBUCDAD wrote:Hey to be the best you have to beat the best. I applaud CSU for scheduling the toughest team in the FCS right out of the gate. Might be a little better game that most of you think.
I couldn't agree more with ya. NDSU's success isn't stopping them for shooting for more FBS games in 2017,2018, 2019,. We are schedule for Oregon Ducks 2020, and 2024 with Colorado but we have many upcoming years to schedule either Big 12 or PAC 12 teams and our Athletic Director has many connections with FBS western teams.
You are only as good as your competition, so coming up to play us puts you in the national spot light, helps exposure to your school, and you see where your program is at compared to a Dynasty like NDSU who never got a crack at App.State only GSU twice which one game was great, the other a blow out.

We are sitting perfect in Title Town FCS USA! With the college power 5 conferences realigning more teams, there will be a new Mid FBS Division Conference I believe in the next 2 to 3 years and NDSU could get an invite to join a FBS Division that could be with KState, Idaho, Kansas, Iowa State, Wyoming, Colorado State, Oklahoma State Maybe....
It could be a new North Central Conference FBS Mid Level size. So if they just keep playing dominant FCS power football, we won't be in the FCS for more then maybe 4 more years, as the Bison will be moving up with invites I would guess. But then we need a bigger stadium so here we go, raise the money, etc.....NDSU has a tremendous Alumni so lots of $$$$ there. Ask Frisco Texas.
Raise the bar, right?

Can't wait to see how your team is, I think you are lot like we were in 2010 on the up and up. But just be ready we will play like Bama so your boys be ready as they will need fresh legs to outlast us which we are deep 2 to 3 lines deep per position, which many 2nd and 3rd stringers would be starting at any other FCS program. I have never seen the recruiting so high over the past 4 to 5 years.... great players coming up to Fargo instead of FBS Schools or other top FCS schools. Remarkable.

Bring your A Game Bucs, I want to see the Bison pushed, make them work hard so they can prepare for their 2nd National Televised game in 3 weeks on ESPN against Iowa Hawkeyes as this game is a pickem game? 50-50 both Hawk Fans and Bison Fans are stuck on this one. Make sure to tune in Sept.17th, as we will be taking down another FBS team who is ranked 14th in the nation. Oh by the way I didn't forget Eastern Washington 2nd game of the year, I'm more concerned with your team then the Red Birdies in Washington, we will destroy them.

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Oh man yall play Iowa the 17th?? I'll watch that one. That could be another NDSU upset special. Iowas style of play is perfect for NDSU bc yall can match their phsyical, disciplined style.
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clenz wrote:
BucDad62 wrote:I'm looking forward to the Kickoff Classic and was curious to know from the Bison fans, what in your opinion is the biggest weakness on this years squad? What are you concerned about, if anything? Not just for opening day but for the whole season. The domination of FCS by NDSU is impressive
NDSU's biggest weakness is an area CSU can't/won't challenge - the secondary.
Yeah that's the problem for us. We lost several of our top WRs and our starting QB. We already didn't throw a whole lot either.


Who was the last option team NDSU played?
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clenz wrote: NDSU's biggest weakness is an area CSU can't/won't challenge - the secondary.
NDSU's biggest weakness will be playing at the UNIdome this year.
Well, yeah...but CSU really can't exploit that.
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clenz wrote: NDSU's biggest weakness is an area CSU can't/won't challenge - the secondary.
Yeah that's the problem for us. We lost several of our top WRs and our starting QB. We already didn't throw a whole lot either.


Who was the last option team NDSU played?
Not sure its been a while, I would say Wofford, or maybe back to GSU? Many schools run the Shotgun Option 4 wide out stuff but most in the MVFC play good ole style line up football, full steam ahead.
Montana is touting that 90 plays a game means a win crap, well that only gets you so far with a tuff defensive team, and a team who eats the clock and pounds out first downs after first downs.... Oh that would be the Bison.
But Northern Iowa is actually the best interconference rival by far. They are big, strong, talented like us, so its only a few points either way every year. Much like Bama vs LSU, or Bama/ Ole Miss etc.... Lets truly say Northern Iowa qtr final game last year was THE TITLE GAME. We have 5 MVFC teams in the same one side of the bracket which was BS, since Illinois State and Bison played the year before so they intently wanted us all to beat up on each other and play maybe 3 times in one season which is crap! The FCS committee heard about it from NDSU and many MVFC fans so this 2016 they said it will be more a national playoff across the nation then local conference teams playing again and again and never get to see a team from east coast, or west coast come up to ND. Or vise versa.

Our really only weak area left is left cornerback on Dfensive that position is up for grabs otherwise there is no weak position going into the season. Solid team for sure. Frisco is our destiny, Hawkeyeville is our Target for us fans, but it all won't matter if we don't play well against CSU under the lights. Should be an interesting game.

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bucs90 wrote:
Yeah that's the problem for us. We lost several of our top WRs and our starting QB. We already didn't throw a whole lot either.


Who was the last option team NDSU played?
Not sure its been a while, I would say Wofford, or maybe back to GSU? Many schools run the Shotgun Option 4 wide out stuff but most in the MVFC play good ole style line up football, full steam ahead.
Montana is touting that 90 plays a game means a win crap, well that only gets you so far with a tuff defensive team, and a team who eats the clock and pounds out first downs after first downs.... Oh that would be the Bison.
But Northern Iowa is actually the best interconference rival by far. They are big, strong, talented like us, so its only a few points either way every year. Much like Bama vs LSU, or Bama/ Ole Miss etc.... Lets truly say Northern Iowa qtr final game last year was THE TITLE GAME. We have 5 MVFC teams in the same one side of the bracket which was BS, since Illinois State and Bison played the year before so they intently wanted us all to beat up on each other and play maybe 3 times in one season which is crap! The FCS committee heard about it from NDSU and many MVFC fans so this 2016 they said it will be more a national playoff across the nation then local conference teams playing again and again and never get to see a team from east coast, or west coast come up to ND. Or vise versa.

Our really only weak area left is left cornerback on Dfensive that position is up for grabs otherwise there is no weak position going into the season. Solid team for sure. Frisco is our destiny, Hawkeyeville is our Target for us fans, but it all won't matter if we don't play well against CSU under the lights. Should be an interesting game.

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Yeah I'm hoping you guys not having faced the option in a while will help narrow the gap a little for us. Our option is a little unique. We run it out of gun like Auburn and Clemson, but then it actually plays out more like a traditional option with a pitch man instead of the read-option so many are running. Bit of a hybrid. We MUST run the ball on NDSU or we have no hope. We will get blown out if we don't rush for at least 175-200 yards. Our D will need some rest going against such a physical NDSU offense. Just my opinion.

Look out for 2 SEC transfers. DE Gerald Turner and DB Darrin Smalls. Both were highly touted recruits from Charleston area who went to USC and transferred out at the end of Spurriers reign. They're really showing up in camp.


Is it wrong for me to pray a stomach virus sweeps through NDSU the Friday before kickoff hahaha??? I want this win so bad!!
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UNI with Aaron Bailey, Brion Carnes and Terrell Rennie have run the same type of offense as Auburn since 2010
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clenz wrote:UNI with Aaron Bailey, Brion Carnes and Terrell Rennie have run the same type of offense as Auburn since 2010

Oh ok. Well we run something very similar. Damn it. Was hoping NDSU hadn't seen that style in a while.
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clenz wrote:UNI with Aaron Bailey, Brion Carnes and Terrell Rennie have run the same type of offense as Auburn since 2010

Oh ok. Well we run something very similar. Damn it. Was hoping NDSU hadn't seen that style in a while.
Your bigger issue is the fact that you come in pretty one dimensional being heavily run oriented. NDSU is great at picking one part of your offense to take away and doing it. See all the games vs SDSU when they had Zach Zenner. They are very good at making you try to beat them with your weakness and tearing you apart once they've forced you into that situation. They're very good at forcing quick possessions so your defense is forced to be on the field a lot, which is why the size of your defense will start to matter. If CSU doesn't get some good sustained drives in the first half, the game will get away from them in the second half. If it was a mid season game where they only had a week to prepare for the option it would help a lot more in catching them off balance, but with them having a full month to prepare I don't like the odds of that happening.
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clenz wrote:UNI with Aaron Bailey, Brion Carnes and Terrell Rennie have run the same type of offense as Auburn since 2010

Oh ok. Well we run something very similar. Damn it. Was hoping NDSU hadn't seen that style in a while.
From the few plays I've watched it looks like you're running the veer out of a splitback shotgun formation. Is that accurate?

NDSU's defense tends to be very disciplined so the misdirection probably won't be very effective and the key will be the blocking. Do you use the veer style cut blocking that the military academies use?

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clenz wrote:UNI with Aaron Bailey, Brion Carnes and Terrell Rennie have run the same type of offense as Auburn since 2010

Oh ok. Well we run something very similar. Damn it. Was hoping NDSU hadn't seen that style in a while.
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Tirrell Rennie - ranked a head of Cam Newton coming out of JUCO, but didn't have the height so he was passed over by bigger schools. First QB in UNI history with more than 1,000 yards passing and rusing in a single season. 2010 he was runner up for conference POY. Ran for 1,300 yards and 15 TDS. Threw for 1,600 yards and 8 TDs. As a senior he ran for 9,00 yards and 9 TD while throwing for 1,800 and 14 TD.

The running backs he had with him were Carlos Anderson and David Johnson (Yep...the David Johnson of the Arizona Cardinals). During his two years as the starter UNI running backs added nearly 3,000 more yards to the rushing totals.

After Rennie was 2 years of a more traditional pocket guy

Then 2 years of Brion Carnes. A 4* Nebraska transfer. He refused to run as much, though he could, but the same look was in play.

Last season with Aaron Bailey started 7 games he threw for 1,700 yards (completed 60% of his passes), 13 TD and ran for 1,400 yards and 19 TD. UNI also had a 1,000 yard running back in the back field next to him. Bailey is 6'3 230 and the running back is 6'3 226. Bailey was a 4* QB out of HS with offers from every program you can dream of - Urban Meyer wanted him bad out of HS. Both Bailey and that RB are back this year.

This is Bailey and Tyvis Smith. This type of image (insert Rennie and his RBs or Brion and David Johnson in place) has scared the hell out of defenses for 6 years
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Some breigh highlights of the offense from the nearly 500 yard rushing performance against PSU in the playoffs last year. http://www.ncaa.com/video/football/2015 ... highlights

It's a lot of motion from the slot through the back field, read option, counter option, etc.. NDSU has seen it. They are very, very, gap sound
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Oh ok. Well we run something very similar. Damn it. Was hoping NDSU hadn't seen that style in a while.
Your bigger issue is the fact that you come in pretty one dimensional being heavily run oriented. NDSU is great at picking one part of your offense to take away and doing it. See all the games vs SDSU when they had Zach Zenner. They are very good at making you try to beat them with your weakness and tearing you apart once they've forced you into that situation. They're very good at forcing quick possessions so your defense is forced to be on the field a lot, which is why the size of your defense will start to matter. If CSU doesn't get some good sustained drives in the first half, the game will get away from them in the second half. If it was a mid season game where they only had a week to prepare for the option it would help a lot more in catching them off balance, but with them having a full month to prepare I don't like the odds of that happening.
Great point. Midseason we'd have a better shot. I'm holding out hope for that stomach virus to break out in Fargo on the 26th
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Oh ok. Well we run something very similar. Damn it. Was hoping NDSU hadn't seen that style in a while.
From the few plays I've watched it looks like you're running the veer out of a splitback shotgun formation. Is that accurate?

NDSU's defense tends to be very disciplined so the misdirection probably won't be very effective and the key will be the blocking. Do you use the veer style cut blocking that the military academies use?

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That's pretty accurate I think. And no we don't do cut blocking the way service academies do but I'm sure we do cut occasionally. Our option does have that thing where the QB pivots a complete 180 and runs it the other way which is something I haven't seen much. Works great vs fast aggressive defenses. But a very sound, big, disciplined defense, with above average athleticism, would be hard to run it on.
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