Who Would You Rather Beat?

[kalm]

In-state FBS programs are big brothers. Conference rivals who beat you the last 5 out 7 are peers you look up to.

One word: Shooter. Much like MSU has one word: Travis

Other than that, it's been pretty bleak for both of y'all.

6 out of the last 12. Enjoy your one game win streak!

[Gil Dobie]

Always wanted NDSU to play Georgia Southern. Now that the Bison have played the Eagles 3 times, 3 wins is enough. App St fell off the list when they moved up.

[Grizalltheway]

One word: Shooter. Much like MSU has one word: Travis

Other than that, it's been pretty bleak for both of y'all.

6 out of the last 12. Enjoy your one game win streak!

Yawn. After we roll off a few more in a row, you'll once again be doubled up in the all time series.

[AZGrizFan]

One word: Shooter. Much like MSU has one word: Travis

Other than that, it's been pretty bleak for both of y'all.

6 out of the last 12. Enjoy your one game win streak!

In other words, 1 out of the last 5 before Shooter.

[MSUDuo]

We've beat NDSU. We've never beat Mizzou. I would take Mizzou

[kalm]

6 out of the last 12. Enjoy your one game win streak!

In other words, 1 out of the last 5 before Shooter.

2. Adams played 3 seasons and the went to Oregon. Meyer and BLM both beat the Griz.

And your math sucks.

[JohnStOnge]

Depends on who you would call McNeese's FBS in State rival to some extent. If you're talking Louisiana-Lafayette, I'd rather see them beat the Bison. McNeese is already leading the series against Louisiana-Lafayette including being 2-1 against the Cajuns since McNeese opted to go I-AA while the Cajuns stayed I-A. If you're talking LSU...well...you can guess. As much as I'd love to see McNeese play and beat North Dakota State there would be a lot more "juice" for the school if it beat LSU. That'd probably be bigger than App State beating Michigan was.

[AZGrizFan]

In other words, 1 out of the last 5 before Shooter.

2. Adams played 3 seasons and the went to Oregon. Meyer and BLM both beat the Griz.

And your math sucks.

Really? 5 out of 7 goes to 6 of 12? That makes 1 of 5 PRIOR to shooter.

YOUR math sucks, EWOOOO grad.

[Ursus A. Horribilis]

OOf, kalm takes a hard shot in the pill.

[kalm]

2. Adams played 3 seasons and the went to Oregon. Meyer and BLM both beat the Griz.

And your math sucks.

Really? 5 out of 7 goes to 6 of 12? That makes 1 of 5 PRIOR to shooter.

YOUR math sucks, EWOOOO grad.

Meyer in 2005, BLM in 2010.

You're getting dumber by the moment...and your peanut gallery too.

[Ursus A. Horribilis]

Uh oh, the pill is fighting back! Maybe the toe getting the beat down tonight!

Who is going to live the longest in this math contest of Titans?

Can't wait to see how this turns out tomorrow. One of these Brickhouses of Brainery will be the new CS Mathuselah and we all know that math can be very dangerous to one's board health on this site.

[Wildcat Ryan]

Beating the Bison would be great because it would mean that Weber has finally gotten to that level of national contender and I think that win would be bigger for the program as a whole.

However beating an instate FBS team like say Utah State would be absolutely beautiful. The Utah media all but ignores the FCS's of the state (Weber/SUU) and over glorifies the FBS schools in the state. (BYU, Utah, USU) A victory over a local instate "rival" and stunning the local media would make my year.

[LynchburgFlamesFan]

Definitely a win over UVA or VTech

[htownbearkat]

Depends on who you would call McNeese's FBS in State rival to some extent. If you're talking Louisiana-Lafayette, I'd rather see them beat the Bison. McNeese is already leading the series against Louisiana-Lafayette including being 2-1 against the Cajuns since McNeese opted to go I-AA while the Cajuns stayed I-A. If you're talking LSU...well...you can guess. As much as I'd love to see McNeese play and beat North Dakota State there would be a lot more "juice" for the school if it beat LSU. That'd probably be bigger than App State beating Michigan was.

Pretty much the same feelings with the Bearkats. Even though UT is down beating them would be so huge, I may have to pick it over beating the Bison. If it was for the Natty though I would lean to beating the Bison.

[vutomcat]

NDSU

We have beaten Temple plenty of times. It's always good to beat FBS teams, but it's still Temple. Forget about the fluke of 2016.

[andy7171]

NDSU

We have beaten Temple plenty of times. It's always good to beat FBS teams, but it's still Temple. Forget about the fluke of 2016.

What about Penn State?

[89Hen]

NDSU

We have beaten Temple plenty of times. It's always good to beat FBS teams, but it's still Temple. Forget about the fluke of 2016.

How about Penn State?

[89Hen]

NDSU

We have beaten Temple plenty of times. It's always good to beat FBS teams, but it's still Temple. Forget about the fluke of 2016.

How about Penn State?

Didn't scroll far enough.

[89Hen]

So kalm, did this turn out like you thought?

[kalm]

So kalm, did this turn out like you thought?

It did. It's an interesting question that shows the differences in program goals and identities.

[89Hen]

So kalm, did this turn out like you thought?

It did. It's an interesting question that shows the differences in program goals and identities.

Not sure about that. I think you'd have to ask would you rather win the NC or beat a big I-A to determine that. Otherwise I'd assume the goal of every program is make the playoffs and maybe win an NC.

At the end of the day, beating NDSU in the regular season really doesn't move the needle for your program. Winning an NC does and certainly beating a big I-A does (probably more so than the NC).

[Get'em_Griz]

Beating a I-A team (especially in-state) > beating a I-AA team in the regular season IMO (unless they are your in-state rival like Montana/MSU). Now, I would rather the Hens beat Delaware State than a I-A team, but only because the loss to DelSt would be unbearable.

As I said earlier in this thread, Montana does not have an in-state rival. *74-37.

FIFY. I count the 2011 game as a win.

[kalm]

It did. It's an interesting question that shows the differences in program goals and identities.

Not sure about that. I think you'd have to ask would you rather win the NC or beat a big I-A to determine that. Otherwise I'd assume the goal of every program is make the playoffs and maybe win an NC.

At the end of the day, beating NDSU in the regular season really doesn't move the needle for your program. Winning an NC does and certainly beating a big I-A does (probably more so than the NC).

The NC is of course the ultimate goal. That's a no-brainer. This question is more interesting as you can lose or win both and still have that goal intact.

And I didn't ask which win moves the needle more. That's simply the justification for your answer.

I'd still rather beat the Bizon and care more about that outcome.

(Which is itself another question )

[Thumper 76]

Not a fair question for a SDSU fans situation, so I'll qualify it. This year I would rather beat TCU if it's in the regular season, but I would rather beat NDSU when we meet them in the playoffs, preferably sometime after the second fucking round. Beating TCU would mean incredible hype going into the inaugural season of the DJD, and NDSU is on the road this year. Attendance is going to be great this year, but honestly knocking off TCU would mean straight sell outs except for maybe the Misery State game.

[Aho Old Guy]

If you polled casual Eastern Fans it might be WSU, but if you polled our message board I'm guessing it would be NDSU.

I don't doubt that. Beating a I-A is a bigger deal to the general population and therefore probably has a bigger impact on the school and athletics. I remember reading how AppSt's applications went up tremendously the year after beating Michigan. To be fair, that was also when they were winning their 3 NC's but that Michigan game got 100x the press that any of the I-AA NC's did.

http://www.wbtv.com/story/26408736/7-ye ... -an-impact

But you might be surprised what effect that game had on the student population.

"You're looking at the Appalachian State student profile being different now." Jackson added.

Student applications rose dramatically from across the country, the freshman GPA went up from 3.68 to 3.87, and average SAT scores of incoming freshmen were up, too.

Danielle Heichen is a student/athlete softball player from Miami, and she says the Michigan game is one reason she ended up in Boone.

Marketing Fluff.
The Over-Lords (Trustees) and Adminicrats want Appalachian to be viewed as a *National* presence, hence, the move from the SoCon to the Sun Belch. The reality is, 90%+ of Appalachian's enrollment (roughly 18K students) is in-state.

I would also submit that the GPA increase cannot be fully attributed (if, at all) to the Michigan win. The fact is, Appalachian has multiple degree paths which lead to near-certain employment after course work -- from public administration to teaching. Even Bidness/Finance majors are highly regarded, and CPA graduates consistently each year out-perform their in-state peers on licensing exam certifications.

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