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Re: 2021 AGS FCS Poll - 10/4

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BDKJMU wrote: Tue Oct 05, 2021 12:00 pm
93henfan wrote: Tue Oct 05, 2021 11:49 am

Oh, please. The remnants of the decent (not great) squad that Delaware had in the spring still sleep-walked over them with three UD QB's appearing in the game. Albany is not a good team either.

The AGS poll is the best one I've seen, and there are four, maybe five (don't go beating off, Kalm) teams with a chance to win the chipper in that poll.[/b]

If SDSU stays healthy, they should cakewalk.
I‘ll go 5, maybe 6 (in no particular order):
-SDSU
-NDSU
-SHSU
-JMU
-Montana
-EWU
Make it 7, add in Villanova (And I’d be saying the same if JMU’s kicker hadn’t choked).
-An excellent, dual threat QB.
-An AA caliber RB (was leading the nation in rushing early 2019 before seaaon ending injury).
-Playmaker WR (couple TD receptions vs Penn St (albeit 4th qtr garbage time, 1 vs JMU).
-Big OL (avg about 6’4 1/2”/317.
-Studs at all 3 levels of defense

Start 15 super seniors. Being an expensive private, their issue is usually depth, esp as the season goes on with injuries, without the quality walkon program, but with the extra super senior schollies this year, that might not be as much of an issue. Certainly their best team since they won the title in 09’.

Yeah, SIU just beat SDSU @ SDSU, but I’m not sure about their defense and if they should be an 8th team on the list

Looks like every single of the above 7 teams has had at least 1 game where they haven’t looked good. Just no dominant 1-2 teams this season..

I also assume most of the above 7 are a QB injury away from not being a contender (I know thats the case with JMU)..
Cignetti through 3rd season at JMU:
31-4 overall.
26-1 vs FCS regular season.
18-1 vs CAA
5-2 playoffs.
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Re: 2021 AGS FCS Poll - 10/4

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Winterborn wrote: Wed Oct 06, 2021 2:48 pm
BDKJMU wrote: Wed Oct 06, 2021 2:33 pm
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I wish I was. My call at the beginning of the season among friends, is that at best we will be knocked out in the 2nd round. We are playing the same way as the spring season. We have good players, just no imagination from the coaches and are very 1D.
See, I told you you were sandbagging..
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Re: 2021 AGS FCS Poll - 10/4

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BDKJMU wrote: Tue Oct 05, 2021 12:00 pm
93henfan wrote: Tue Oct 05, 2021 11:49 am

Oh, please. The remnants of the decent (not great) squad that Delaware had in the spring still sleep-walked over them with three UD QB's appearing in the game. Albany is not a good team either.

The AGS poll is the best one I've seen, and there are four, maybe five (don't go beating off, Kalm) teams with a chance to win the chipper in that poll.[/b]

If SDSU stays healthy, they should cakewalk.
I‘ll go 5, maybe 6 (in no particular order):
-SDSU
-NDSU
-SHSU
-JMU
-Montana
-EWU
Add SIU and Montana St
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Re: 2021 AGS FCS Poll - 10/11

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AGS Poll Results - Week 6 - 2021
Rank Team: Total Points First Place Votes
1 Sam Houston Bearkats 1304 40
2 North Dakota State Bison 1255 6
3 Eastern Washington Eagles 1248 7
4 Southern Illinois Salukis 1161
5 South Dakota State Jackrabbits 1075
6 Montana Grizzlies 1023
7 Villanova Wildcats 994
8 Montana State Bobcats 968
9 James Madison Dukes 939
10 East Tennessee State Buccaneers 809
11 Southeastern Louisiana Lions 744
12 Rhode Island Rams 646
13T Northern Iowa Panthers 599
13T UC Davis Aggies 599
15 South Dakota Coyotes 482
16 Incarnate Word Cardinals 432
17 Delaware Fightin' Blue Hens 400
18 Weber State Wildcats 349
19 Missouri State Bears 324
20 Tennessee-Martin Skyhawks 304
21 Kennesaw State Owls 290
22 Princeton Tigers 234
23 North Dakota Fighting Hawks 216
24 Central Arkansas Bears 146
25 Mercer Bears 129
ORV:
26 Harvard Crimson 98
27 Virginia Military Institute Keydets 86
28 Duquesne Dukes 75
29 Dartmouth Big Green 55
30 William & Mary Tribe 52
31 New Hampshire Wildcats 38
32 Nicholls Colonels 37
33 Jackson State Tigers 35
34 Southeast Missouri State Redhawks 28
35 Jacksonville State Gamecocks 17
36 Northern Arizona Lumberjacks 12
37 Monmouth Hawks 10
38 North Carolina A&T Aggies 9
39 Eastern Kentucky Colonels 2
40 Stephen F. Austin Lumberjacks 1
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Re: 2021 AGS FCS Poll - 10/11

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Gil Dobie wrote: Mon Oct 11, 2021 11:59 am AGS Poll Results - Week 6 - 2021
Rank Team: Total Points First Place Votes
1 Sam Houston Bearkats 1304 40
2 North Dakota State Bison 1255 6
3 Eastern Washington Eagles 1248 7
4 Southern Illinois Salukis 1161
5 South Dakota State Jackrabbits 1075
6 Montana Grizzlies 1023
7 Villanova Wildcats 994
8 Montana State Bobcats 968
9 James Madison Dukes 939
10 East Tennessee State Buccaneers 809
11 Southeastern Louisiana Lions 744
12 Rhode Island Rams 646
13T Northern Iowa Panthers 599
13T UC Davis Aggies 599
15 South Dakota Coyotes 482
16 Incarnate Word Cardinals 432
17 Delaware Fightin' Blue Hens 400
18 Weber State Wildcats 349
19 Missouri State Bears 324
20 Tennessee-Martin Skyhawks 304
21 Kennesaw State Owls 290
22 Princeton Tigers 234
23 North Dakota Fighting Hawks 216
24 Central Arkansas Bears 146
25 Mercer Bears 129
ORV:
26 Harvard Crimson 98
27 Virginia Military Institute Keydets 86
28 Duquesne Dukes 75
29 Dartmouth Big Green 55
30 William & Mary Tribe 52
31 New Hampshire Wildcats 38
32 Nicholls Colonels 37
33 Jackson State Tigers 35
34 Southeast Missouri State Redhawks 28
35 Jacksonville State Gamecocks 17
36 Northern Arizona Lumberjacks 12
37 Monmouth Hawks 10
38 North Carolina A&T Aggies 9
39 Eastern Kentucky Colonels 2
40 Stephen F. Austin Lumberjacks 1
UNI shouldn't even be receiving votes.
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Re: 2021 AGS FCS Poll - 10/11

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NAU receiving votes?

I guess that P5 win counts for something...(plus seeing Idaho State beat UC-D). If we'd only managed not to screw up the UNC game, we'd be 3-2 with losses to #1 and #15
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Re: 2021 AGS FCS Poll - 10/11

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I can't believe all the people sandbagging here. ROFL....

UNI: Lost by a short touchdown to Iowa State and to the #3 team in the country in-conference. Convincingly won a cross-country peer game. While T13 might be a bit high, I'm comfortable with UNI being at least ranked over #20. Two tough games coming up (SDSU, SIU), but the others look to favor UNI (particularly the last three with IL State, SW Missouri State, and Western IL). I think UNI makes the playoffs.

NAU: The Jacks are at least showing signs of life. FBS win, and handled a game they SHOULD have handled. Losing to #1 is expected, particularly against a power conference. Should have beaten UNC. But three of the final six look to be in NAU's favor. Count those three, and pull at least one upset in the other three (Sac, UCD, and Montana), and NAU could be sitting pretty.
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Re: 2021 AGS FCS Poll - 10/11

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SuperHornet wrote: Mon Oct 11, 2021 12:45 pm I can't believe all the people sandbagging here. ROFL....

UNI: Lost by a short touchdown to Iowa State and to the #3 team in the country in-conference. Convincingly won a cross-country peer game. While T13 might be a bit high, I'm comfortable with UNI being at least ranked over #20. Two tough games coming up (SDSU, SIU), but the others look to favor UNI (particularly the last three with IL State, SW Missouri State, and Western IL). I think UNI makes the playoffs.

NAU: The Jacks are at least showing signs of life. FBS win, and handled a game they SHOULD have handled. Losing to #1 is expected, particularly against a power conference. Should have beaten UNC. But three of the final six look to be in NAU's favor. Count those three, and pull at least one upset in the other three (Sac, UCD, and Montana), and NAU could be sitting pretty.
If the team that beat UNI on Saturday is the 3rd best FCS team in the country then 89 might be right about the FCS being down.
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Re: 2021 AGS FCS Poll - 10/11

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UNI88 wrote: Mon Oct 11, 2021 1:18 pm
SuperHornet wrote: Mon Oct 11, 2021 12:45 pm I can't believe all the people sandbagging here. ROFL....

UNI: Lost by a short touchdown to Iowa State and to the #3 team in the country in-conference. Convincingly won a cross-country peer game. While T13 might be a bit high, I'm comfortable with UNI being at least ranked over #20. Two tough games coming up (SDSU, SIU), but the others look to favor UNI (particularly the last three with IL State, SW Missouri State, and Western IL). I think UNI makes the playoffs.

NAU: The Jacks are at least showing signs of life. FBS win, and handled a game they SHOULD have handled. Losing to #1 is expected, particularly against a power conference. Should have beaten UNC. But three of the final six look to be in NAU's favor. Count those three, and pull at least one upset in the other three (Sac, UCD, and Montana), and NAU could be sitting pretty.
If the team that beat UNI on Saturday is the 3rd best FCS team in the country then 89 might be right about the FCS being down.
I have them ranked 1.

Conference games are tricky. Not every champion destroys all of its competition.
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Re: 2021 AGS FCS Poll - 10/11

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kalm wrote: Mon Oct 11, 2021 1:47 pm
UNI88 wrote: Mon Oct 11, 2021 1:18 pm
If the team that beat UNI on Saturday is the 3rd best FCS team in the country then 89 might be right about the FCS being down.
I have them ranked 1.

Conference games are tricky. Not every champion destroys all of its competition.
They didn't dominate the LOS like they normally do and they're nowhere near as disciplined as they were under Klieman. They try to make up for it by being chippier.
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Re: 2021 AGS FCS Poll - 10/4

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BDKJMU wrote: Mon Oct 11, 2021 8:20 am
Winterborn wrote: Wed Oct 06, 2021 2:48 pm

I wish I was. My call at the beginning of the season among friends, is that at best we will be knocked out in the 2nd round. We are playing the same way as the spring season. We have good players, just no imagination from the coaches and are very 1D.
See, I told you you were sandbagging..
Then you knew more than me. :thumb:

I mentioned to a couple of coworkers and friends before the game that I thought we would have a hard game and more than likely lose.
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Re: 2021 AGS FCS Poll - 10/4

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Winterborn wrote: Mon Oct 11, 2021 2:20 pm
BDKJMU wrote: Mon Oct 11, 2021 8:20 am
See, I told you you were sandbagging..
Then you knew more than me. :thumb:

I mentioned to a couple of coworkers and friends before the game that I thought we would have a hard game and more than likely lose.
He wasn't sandbagging, but got upset when I mentioned JMU should be ranked below SDSU. Hmmmm...
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Re: 2021 AGS FCS Poll - 10/4

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Gil Dobie wrote: Tue Oct 12, 2021 5:20 am
Winterborn wrote: Mon Oct 11, 2021 2:20 pm

Then you knew more than me. :thumb:

I mentioned to a couple of coworkers and friends before the game that I thought we would have a hard game and more than likely lose.
He wasn't sandbagging, but got upset when I mentioned JMU should be ranked below SDSU. Hmmmm...
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Re: 2021 AGS FCS Poll - 10/4

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kalm wrote: Tue Oct 12, 2021 5:48 am
Gil Dobie wrote: Tue Oct 12, 2021 5:20 am

He wasn't sandbagging, but got upset when I mentioned JMU should be ranked below SDSU. Hmmmm...
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I am a bit confused. :? Isn't the saying "Useless as tits on a bull"?

Per that picture, it would read "useless as bull tits."
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Re: 2021 AGS FCS Poll - 10/11

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89Hen wrote: Tue Oct 12, 2021 7:24 am
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kalm wrote: Tue Oct 12, 2021 10:56 am
89Hen wrote: Tue Oct 12, 2021 7:24 am
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Re: 2021 AGS FCS Poll - 10/18

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10/18/2021

Rank Team: Total Points First Place Votes
1 Sam Houston Bearkats 1326 40
2 North Dakota State Bison 1271 4
3 Eastern Washington Eagles 1270 10
4 Southern Illinois Salukis 1191
5 South Dakota State Jackrabbits 1126
6 Villanova Wildcats 1052
7 Montana State Bobcats 1019
8 James Madison Dukes 994
9 Southeastern Louisiana Lions 913
10 South Dakota Coyotes 775
11 UC Davis Aggies 769
12 Montana Grizzlies 675
13 Incarnate Word Cardinals 660
14 Missouri State Bears 590
15 East Tennessee State Buccaneers 569
16 Tennessee-Martin Skyhawks 489
17 Kennesaw State Owls 471
18 Princeton Tigers 329
19 Virginia Military Institute Keydets 310
20 Rhode Island Rams 308
21 Northern Iowa Panthers 258
22 Sac State Hornets 229
23 Harvard Crimson 220
24 Dartmouth Big Green 214
25 Duquesne Dukes 90
ORV:
26 Jackson State Tigers 83
27 Eastern Kentucky Colonels 78
28 Weber State Wildcats 57
29 Chattanooga Mocs 51
30 North Dakota Fighting Hawks 37
31 Delaware Fightin' Blue Hens 31
32 Mercer Bears 20
33T Northern Arizona Lumberjacks 18
33T Monmouth Hawks 18
35 Furman Paladins 15
36 William & Mary Tribe 6
37 Central Arkansas Bears 5
Most Significant Win: Sac State Hornets
Most Significant Loss: Montana Grizzlies
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When was the last time 3 Ivies made the Top 25?

Loser of Harvard-Princeton will drop out.
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Re: 2021 AGS FCS Poll - 10/18

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Ivytalk wrote: Tue Oct 19, 2021 4:25 am When was the last time 3 Ivies made the Top 25?

Loser of Harvard-Princeton will drop out.
I'm not sold on Dartmouth after the Valpo score, the other 2 look good.
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Re: 2021 AGS FCS Poll - 10/11

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Gil Dobie wrote: Mon Oct 11, 2021 11:59 am AGS Poll Results - Week 6 - 2021
Rank Team: Total Points First Place Votes
1 Sam Houston Bearkats 1304 40
2 North Dakota State Bison 1255 6
3 Eastern Washington Eagles 1248 7
4 Southern Illinois Salukis 1161
5 South Dakota State Jackrabbits 1075
6 Montana Grizzlies 1023
7 Villanova Wildcats 994
8 Montana State Bobcats 968
9 James Madison Dukes 939
10 East Tennessee State Buccaneers 809
11 Southeastern Louisiana Lions 744
12 Rhode Island Rams 646
13T Northern Iowa Panthers 599
13T UC Davis Aggies 599
15 South Dakota Coyotes 482
16 Incarnate Word Cardinals 432
17 Delaware Fightin' Blue Hens 400
18 Weber State Wildcats 349
19 Missouri State Bears 324
20 Tennessee-Martin Skyhawks 304
21 Kennesaw State Owls 290
22 Princeton Tigers 234
23 North Dakota Fighting Hawks 216
24 Central Arkansas Bears 146
25 Mercer Bears 129
ORV:
26 Harvard Crimson 98
27 Virginia Military Institute Keydets 86
28 Duquesne Dukes 75
29 Dartmouth Big Green 55
30 William & Mary Tribe 52
31 New Hampshire Wildcats 38
32 Nicholls Colonels 37
33 Jackson State Tigers 35
34 Southeast Missouri State Redhawks 28
35 Jacksonville State Gamecocks 17
36 Northern Arizona Lumberjacks 12
37 Monmouth Hawks 10
38 North Carolina A&T Aggies 9
39 Eastern Kentucky Colonels 2
40 Stephen F. Austin Lumberjacks 1
Jackson St is now in the top 25 they're 24th.
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Re: 2021 AGS FCS Poll - 10/11

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dal4018 wrote: Tue Oct 19, 2021 6:06 am
Gil Dobie wrote: Mon Oct 11, 2021 11:59 am AGS Poll Results - Week 6 - 2021
Rank Team: Total Points First Place Votes
1 Sam Houston Bearkats 1304 40
2 North Dakota State Bison 1255 6
3 Eastern Washington Eagles 1248 7
4 Southern Illinois Salukis 1161
5 South Dakota State Jackrabbits 1075
6 Montana Grizzlies 1023
7 Villanova Wildcats 994
8 Montana State Bobcats 968
9 James Madison Dukes 939
10 East Tennessee State Buccaneers 809
11 Southeastern Louisiana Lions 744
12 Rhode Island Rams 646
13T Northern Iowa Panthers 599
13T UC Davis Aggies 599
15 South Dakota Coyotes 482
16 Incarnate Word Cardinals 432
17 Delaware Fightin' Blue Hens 400
18 Weber State Wildcats 349
19 Missouri State Bears 324
20 Tennessee-Martin Skyhawks 304
21 Kennesaw State Owls 290
22 Princeton Tigers 234
23 North Dakota Fighting Hawks 216
24 Central Arkansas Bears 146
25 Mercer Bears 129
ORV:
26 Harvard Crimson 98
27 Virginia Military Institute Keydets 86
28 Duquesne Dukes 75
29 Dartmouth Big Green 55
30 William & Mary Tribe 52
31 New Hampshire Wildcats 38
32 Nicholls Colonels 37
33 Jackson State Tigers 35
34 Southeast Missouri State Redhawks 28
35 Jacksonville State Gamecocks 17
36 Northern Arizona Lumberjacks 12
37 Monmouth Hawks 10
38 North Carolina A&T Aggies 9
39 Eastern Kentucky Colonels 2
40 Stephen F. Austin Lumberjacks 1
Jackson St is now in the top 25 they're 24th.
Not in this poll…which is the best.

JSU lacks a quality win.
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kalm wrote: Tue Oct 19, 2021 6:46 am JSU lacks a quality win.
For going on 30 years.
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Re: 2021 AGS FCS Poll - 10/18

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Lol having MT St ahead of JMU. Both played @ Weber.
-JMU was up 37-10, went into siesta mode, gave up 2 TDs late 4th, won 37-24.
-MT St won @ Weber 13-7..

But whatever. MT St still has EWU amd Montana.
Cignetti through 3rd season at JMU:
31-4 overall.
26-1 vs FCS regular season.
18-1 vs CAA
5-2 playoffs.
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Re: 2021 AGS FCS Poll - 10/18

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If Delaware loses to winless Dixie(UT) State, will that be enough to over come the name recognition for the voters to not even put them on their ballot????

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